cats or children?
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link
don't find kid's shit anything like as repellent as pet shit, which is on a higher plain of noxiousness than almost anything
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
I have one of them high pressure water pistols filled with slimy dishwater in my kitchen, for when any cats venture anywhere near my bird feeding station. The ones I manage to hit never seem to return. I love dogs + kids - even the annoying type ones. But as for cats - I'd be happy for some kind of final solution tbh.
― calzino, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link
"but i've no desire to get better at this, just to arrange my life to better avoid them"
now i'm just imagining all these children leaping out from behind corners on the street at the lex. who are all these children? just tell them to buzz off.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-714hCsrkzIA/VDSmj-nBuaI/AAAAAAAAB0Q/8YiinQCnlwU/s1600/bike.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/8/86/The_Children_(Village_of_the_Damed).jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111110184851
― nomar, Saturday, 17 December 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link
i do think reducing the scope of your interests and indeed love to your precious fucking nuclear family is a signifier of a worse person. it's fundamentally anti-solidarity.― lex pretend, Saturday, December 17, 2016 1:02 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lex pretend, Saturday, December 17, 2016 1:02 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lex, genuine question for you - have you ever had another person become wholly or almost exclusively dependent on you for their well-being and existence? A sick friend, parent, family member, or partner? there are many reasons people might have to withdraw or shift their focus internally to people or events that demand significant time and energy. it seems petty and lacking of empathy to call them worse people. the care-taking of a dependent is an enormous demand, if one has never had to do it, it might be difficult to understand.
― marcos, Saturday, 17 December 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link
seems like sacrificing much of your life for the well-being of someone else is pretty pro-solidarity
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 17 December 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link
so many genuine questions itt
― forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link
you guys are assuming lex's declaration of most parents as boring is some kind of moral judgement when it seems pretty clear it's an aesthetic one, or a "lifestyle choice" I think it could potentially be some projection at work i.e. I'M NOT BORING nobody said you were
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link
OTOH reducing the scope of your interests and indeed love to your precious fucking nuclear familyis a reasonable starting point for a moral judgement because this is how some people do become awful
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link
you know I think that would've been a pretty fair and accurate assessment until lex said outright that parents who focus too much on their kids are literally worse people and "anti-solidarity"
― marcos, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link
xp
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― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link
It's true i feel v little solidarity w boorish narcissists
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link
What a lovely thread full of dog haters, cat haters, kid haters and parent haters. Merry Christmas, everyone!
― DJI, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link
good mourning!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link
Good Mourning!
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― scott seward, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link
I don't even think it's a reasonable starting point. There are so many different types of parents and families (e.g. doctors, surgeons, social workers, knackered charity workers), I'm not sure you can reduce them to this broad "precious fucking nuclear family" generalisation.
And not being a parent doesn't mean you're necessarily manning the barricades pushing for positive societal change.
― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link
i was 90% selfish before i had kids. now i'm 70% selfish.
― scott seward, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
why would anyone bother hanging out with boring parents and their annoying kids anyway? i HAVE to talk to normal/boring parents sometimes. it comes with the territory. but i never came anywhere near them when i was blissfully kidless.
― scott seward, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:35 (seven years ago) link
awkward small talk with normal people coming to pick up their kid after a birthday party/play date one of the inevitable hazards of child-rearing. sometimes there's just no avoiding it.
― scott seward, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link
I avoid other parents like the plague. I was invited to some parents meeting at the school and my partner asked me if I was going. I said in jest that I was getting my pubes permed on that particular day and she actually wrote that in the school dairy - as in I wouldn't be attending because I am getting my pubic hair permed. I couldn't believe she did it ffs. There wasn't a reply from the teachers funnily enough.
― calzino, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link
if the only people that matter to you are "you and yours" - which is I read when I read "reducing the scope of interests and love to your nuclear family" - then you're probably an asshole
There are so many different types of parents and families (e.g. doctors, surgeons, social workers, knackered charity workers), I'm not sure you can reduce them to this broad "precious fucking nuclear family" generalisation.
"this very specific statement becomes far, far too broad and overly general when I choose to interpret selectively as such"
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link
I'm not sure of the value of a close scriptural/textual analysis of Lex's remarks, but he was shooting far and wide as far as I can see:
99% of the time having children turns formerly interesting and fun adults into complete bores (the 1% mostly comprises naturally gifted raconteurs who can make any anecdote entertaining)
― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link
being boring is good imo
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link
i have no kids and still manage to be quite boring and incredibly selfish fwiw
― sleepingbag, Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link
so which remark are you interested in arguing about? the moral one or the one where we're all boring?
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link
i'm used to the way you guys are boring. i guess it must be comforting.
― scott seward, Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
i mean how many years have people gotten up in arms over some good clean lex fun? it's like a cozy boring cup of tea by now.
― scott seward, Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
http://previews.123rf.com/images/aletia/aletia1505/aletia150500947/40904753-Happy-family-drinking-tea-in-summer-garden-Stock-Photo.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link
this thread is better when there are more dog/children comparisons and relative judgments
― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link
i do think reducing the scope of your interests and indeed love to your precious fucking nuclear family is a signifier of a worse person. it's fundamentally anti-solidarity.
The alleged "moral judgement"/ starting point for a moral judgement?
It's none of my business what peoples' interests are, nor my business to tell them what their interests should be - parents or non-parents.
I don't understand the anti-solidarity point.
― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^
― lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link
Do you have a theory on couples?
― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 17 December 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link
Or brontosauruses
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Saturday, 17 December 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link
brontosauruses are the worstI will take hours and hours with bratty kids and stinky dogs over 15 minutes with a brontosaurus
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Saturday, 17 December 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link
Double Income No Kids DINK
― calstars, Sunday, 18 December 2016 01:22 (seven years ago) link
My daughter is the result of a biracial marriage. My grandfather was born in Spring,TX and he loves the family I've help to create. During WWll he he fell in love with and married a czech born displaced german woman. Throughout my childhood I heard many racist comments on pretty much all fronts from this man. Now he is in love with my wife and child via Facebook. My wife has photos of her family and I'm seeing my racist grandfather genuinely asking questions about her grandfather who was also a WWll vet. My grandfather has used the words beautiful in so many of my wife's photos on Facebook that I'm in awe and shock. This was a man I feared for most of my childhood, who is now giving praise to my Mexican wife. Say what you will about parents and "reducing the scope of interests and love to your nuclear family" but sometimes it helps to cure an old man of racism. I can only smile. and rethink who my grandfather is.
― JacobSanders, Sunday, 18 December 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/8QddJLy.gif
― pplains, Sunday, 18 December 2016 03:00 (seven years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fe/Therattlesnakesperforming.jpg
― a but (brimstead), Sunday, 18 December 2016 03:03 (seven years ago) link
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― scott seward, Sunday, 18 December 2016 03:11 (seven years ago) link
this is the part of the thread where i start sharing my 11 year old kid's art.
― scott seward, Sunday, 18 December 2016 03:12 (seven years ago) link
this is about as facile as the rest of the tombot contributions itt. can you edit these down to "assholes are assholes" in future? or just don't bother posting them.
also the idea that this thread revival is a provocation towards looking outward away from ourselves is so ridiculous as to be hilarious. thread actually embarrasses the board, all in all.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 18 December 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link
it's sad but it's funny too.
― a but (brimstead), Sunday, 18 December 2016 03:28 (seven years ago) link
It is hard to get a man to understand something when his ability to keep posting with righteous indignation depends on his not understanding it
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Sunday, 18 December 2016 03:28 (seven years ago) link
the balancing act between respect and condescension
― a but (brimstead), Sunday, 18 December 2016 03:30 (seven years ago) link
did you read this off the toilet wall while taking a piss or something? wonderful input as ever.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 18 December 2016 03:33 (seven years ago) link
best fortune cookie of all time.
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This whole thing started with some prick decrying conversations he's supposedly above and children. C'mon. You feel the need to vent about that, you're obviously the 1% 'raconteur you exalt in your mind's eye and, by that action, not. It's pathetic. Lex, Tombot: who wants to listen to you? Cause smug 'sophistication' is always latent attention-seeking or willful aloneness.
But go figure a board started by music critics tries to police what people love.
― the ilx meme is critical of that line of thought (lion in winter), Sunday, 18 December 2016 03:35 (seven years ago) link