taking "my world of young ppl" to ever more ridiculous levels
― forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Friday, 16 December 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link
recently i was remembering how there used to be poop EVERYWHERE. remember that? city sidewalks covered in poop. you would have to be kinda old to remember that. there was dog poop everywhere.
― scott seward, Friday, December 16, 2016 12:10 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
visit Chicago after the snow melts if you wish to be transported back in time
― rob, Friday, 16 December 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
there was a whole wild tangent that ∞ was getting into about expression and communication and ideas that bears no resemblance to my experience of what individual humans - kids or adults - can share with us if we're receptive to them, or about what interactions and relationships really are about, or about any experience I recognise about being one being in a world full of beings tbh
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Friday, December 16, 2016 1:56 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fair enough
but this is more of a what type of people do you like (to hang out with) -- everyone gets enjoyment out of or is fulfilled by different things
you get along with some little dudes better than others, and the same applies when interacting with adults; kind of silly to say "in my opinion" or "for me", but imo
i grew up with babies/children til i was 17 and the type of friendships i wanted has changed throughout my entire life, but i never had the urge to hang out with children til recently (but very sparingly). i have friends that love kids and they tell me why, and i would not want to hang out with those kids based on those reasons
and this is an important distinction and a reason why i say i'm cool with hanging out with kids now. i was just explaining where they're at mentally and emotionally. it doesn't mean i think they are inferior or would not humour them. if i learn something new about ~life~ or about myself due to interacting with kids, it's because of my own introspection, but i am almost certain our opinions diverge here
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 16 December 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link
a couple clarifications are probably needed there but i'll leave it at that unless someone brings it up
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 16 December 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU USE A TOOTHBRUSH, I'LL FUCKING DO YOU IN, DON'T TRY IT
― mookieproof, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0QuG6_FA6I
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 16 December 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlAQdHvegjdr6SY/giphy.gif
― scott seward, Friday, 16 December 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link
I sent my brother that gif and he sent me this: https://vimeo.com/21693673
― rob, Friday, 16 December 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link
rob's link: essential viewing
― troops in djibouti (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 16 December 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
Agh this whole thread has been a vital marketing campaignhttp://www.avclub.com/article/boss-baby-wages-war-against-puppies-new-trailer-247513
― kinder, Friday, 16 December 2016 23:50 (seven years ago) link
how... how is that not the SNL thing
― Οὖτις, Friday, 16 December 2016 23:55 (seven years ago) link
I apologise sincerely to lex for suggesting that his dislike of being around kids is a pose. I still think it's worth overcoming but I put some disparate observations together and applied it to this situation. Also I was drunk, sorry.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 17 December 2016 00:31 (seven years ago) link
aw, it's a lex pile-on. It makes me all nostalgic.
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 December 2016 03:50 (seven years ago) link
expressing annoyance w/ ppl for mourning their pets is one of the pettiest things i've ever heard
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 17 December 2016 06:15 (seven years ago) link
ugh i swear the pun there was not intentional
Conversation is a two way thing. Maybe it's you who is shit at talking with kids.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 17 December 2016 07:09 (seven years ago) link
yeah dude i didn't think you were being obnoxious, just a bit reductive maybe
as far as introspection goes yes i think we disagree, i don't buy myself as an island cogitating away so much as an open-ended organism in the middle of organism soup and the other ingredients keep basting me
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 07:29 (seven years ago) link
99% of the time having children turns formerly interesting and fun adults into complete bores (the 1% mostly comprises naturally gifted raconteurs who can make any anecdote entertaining)
I wasn't sure if Lex dislikes children or parents more.
But I think this view (quoted above) is in itself 'boorish', considering the incredible diversity of things of parents and what they do. When you find 99% of parents complete bores, maybe it's time to question your own opinions.
(Sorry this sounds ridiculously patronising - but there it is)
― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 17 December 2016 13:02 (seven years ago) link
the children make me more anxious and uncomfortable; i would rather exist in proximity to parents but ultimately i dislike them more. (obviously there are parents who aren't turned into entitled bores by parenthood and can still converse about matters outside their nuclear family, but they're a minority)
i fully admit i am shit at engaging with children - i mostly have no idea what to do or say and endeavour to ignore them - but i've no desire to get better at this, just to arrange my life to better avoid them. i do think reducing the scope of your interests and indeed love to your precious fucking nuclear family is a signifier of a worse person. it's fundamentally anti-solidarity.
― lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link
I'm terrible at talking to children between, say, eight and fourteen. That's when I have nothing to say, and theoretically it should be easier.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link
i feel optimistic about engaging w/teenagers when the time comes
― lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link
just say the word and we'll help you get out of the rubbish bin
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link
Parents do inane crap as well, including watch tennis all day, ramble about their end of year spotify lists and post inane crap on twitter. Don't notice a lot of difference tbh.
― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link
doing inane crap is my forte
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link
bob six:
- would that i could watch tennis all day, and tweet about it- pretty sure i've posted under 20 words total about my EOY spotify playlist on the internet, would that i could hear under 20 words total about ppl's kids- unfollow me then, fuckwit
― lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link
personally i think kids are cool, great, even. feel like i would be a good dad if i wasn't such shit at being in a relationship. yes there are shitty kids but there are plenty of shitty adults.
for where i am, (non-human) animals (???) is a good substitute. we have two cats at my place and they are constantly a comfort. i used to get very depressed when i was a teenager and i really haven't felt that way since i started having a pet.
cats have been overwhelmingly beneficial to my sanity. it's nice to look at a face and realize nearly all of the bullshit bugging you literally does not exist in their reality. sometimes i envy them.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link
pretty sure i've posted under 20 words total about my EOY spotify playlist on the internet, would that i could hear under 20 words total about ppl's kids
word count: 28
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link
xpdon't muddy the waters by bringing those disease ridden - at liberty to shit in your garden - bird killers to this thread for goodness sake :p
― calzino, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
love cats
― forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
detest them
― calzino, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
don't mind other people's but am v unhappy with their shitting and trampoline net-destroying antics
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link
cats or children?
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link
don't find kid's shit anything like as repellent as pet shit, which is on a higher plain of noxiousness than almost anything
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
I have one of them high pressure water pistols filled with slimy dishwater in my kitchen, for when any cats venture anywhere near my bird feeding station. The ones I manage to hit never seem to return. I love dogs + kids - even the annoying type ones. But as for cats - I'd be happy for some kind of final solution tbh.
― calzino, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link
"but i've no desire to get better at this, just to arrange my life to better avoid them"
now i'm just imagining all these children leaping out from behind corners on the street at the lex. who are all these children? just tell them to buzz off.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-714hCsrkzIA/VDSmj-nBuaI/AAAAAAAAB0Q/8YiinQCnlwU/s1600/bike.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/8/86/The_Children_(Village_of_the_Damed).jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111110184851
― nomar, Saturday, 17 December 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link
i do think reducing the scope of your interests and indeed love to your precious fucking nuclear family is a signifier of a worse person. it's fundamentally anti-solidarity.― lex pretend, Saturday, December 17, 2016 1:02 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lex pretend, Saturday, December 17, 2016 1:02 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lex, genuine question for you - have you ever had another person become wholly or almost exclusively dependent on you for their well-being and existence? A sick friend, parent, family member, or partner? there are many reasons people might have to withdraw or shift their focus internally to people or events that demand significant time and energy. it seems petty and lacking of empathy to call them worse people. the care-taking of a dependent is an enormous demand, if one has never had to do it, it might be difficult to understand.
― marcos, Saturday, 17 December 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link
seems like sacrificing much of your life for the well-being of someone else is pretty pro-solidarity
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 17 December 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link
so many genuine questions itt
― forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link
you guys are assuming lex's declaration of most parents as boring is some kind of moral judgement when it seems pretty clear it's an aesthetic one, or a "lifestyle choice" I think it could potentially be some projection at work i.e. I'M NOT BORING nobody said you were
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link
OTOH reducing the scope of your interests and indeed love to your precious fucking nuclear familyis a reasonable starting point for a moral judgement because this is how some people do become awful
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link
you know I think that would've been a pretty fair and accurate assessment until lex said outright that parents who focus too much on their kids are literally worse people and "anti-solidarity"
― marcos, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link
xp
http://68.media.tumblr.com/a91c37bbfa184e6626266604439e2328/tumblr_nxt9nb8Gdi1r65o3qo1_1280.jpg
― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link
It's true i feel v little solidarity w boorish narcissists
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link
What a lovely thread full of dog haters, cat haters, kid haters and parent haters. Merry Christmas, everyone!
― DJI, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link
good mourning!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link
Good Mourning!
http://images.scribblelive.com/2013/1/16/2afb8358-d4ba-43e9-8780-5dcfda800c76.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link
I don't even think it's a reasonable starting point. There are so many different types of parents and families (e.g. doctors, surgeons, social workers, knackered charity workers), I'm not sure you can reduce them to this broad "precious fucking nuclear family" generalisation.
And not being a parent doesn't mean you're necessarily manning the barricades pushing for positive societal change.
― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link
i was 90% selfish before i had kids. now i'm 70% selfish.
― scott seward, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link