Legit think this is a bigger deal in Trump's mind than winning presidency.
― Houston John (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link
if he is unaware of TIME's diminished "importance," as seems likely
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link
The source of the attention doesn't matter. It's all just fuel for the ego of the most powerful narcissist in the world.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/SamanthaJoRoth/status/806485051571630080
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link
It's pathetic how easy it is to imagine his twitter tirade against Time if he wasn't selected
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link
Technically speaking, Trump has already previously been named Time's Person of the Year along with all of the rest of us.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link
The person of the year is you, the trump voter, forwarding along an infowars clip about Hillary Clinton melting off the face of a slain Benghazi hero and stirring it into her mac and cheese, which she didn't cook very well in the first place I bet
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15390713_10154669958456878_7986727436994403128_n.jpg?oh=323cc7c53bbaefcd2299e4c92dc1b1ce&oe=58F4ED96
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link
i do appreciate that time have selected an image of trump which makes him look like he's turning to greet a manacled james bond and explain his plan to destroy the world's hydrogen
― Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link
max made the same joke on twitter! it's true.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link
I assumed the cameraman surprised him while he was taking a shit on his upholstered toilet.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link
(Which is actually just a La-Z-Boy that he shits on and forces his people to clean daily.)
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/07/trump-names-scott-pruitt-oklahoma-attorney-general-suing-epa-on-climate-change-to-head-the-epa/?hpid=hp_no-name_hp-breaking-news%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar&tid=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.534a8d4c7d86
So much for that meeting with Al Gore...
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link
Trump is only going to live a couple more years if he's lucky, the fuck does he care if NYC is underwater sometime after he eats it?
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link
I dug this "On the Media" bit with George Lakoff:
http://www.wnyc.org/story/george-lakoff/
BROOKE GLADSTONE: For the next four years, what would your advice to working journalists be?GEORGE LAKOFF: If you're reporting, you’re reporting on what he says. Now, however, when you report on what he says and it's a lie, you can give a positive background. For example, he says, you know, he’s saved a thousand jobs – not exactly. Carrier Air Conditioning is going to send to Mexico 1,300 jobs of their 2,000, so two-thirds of the jobs are going to Mexico. That could be your lead. He got Mike Pence to pay $700,000 a year from the Indiana state budget directly to Carrier, part of the deal. So the taxpayers are paying the owners of Carrier to keep some of those jobs, one-third of them, when two-thirds of them are going. Now, that’s very, very different from the reporting that says he saved a thousand jobs. And The New York, Times, in their reporting, started by pointing out that all the companies near Carrier, even within a mile, are going to Mexico and nothing is being saved. So that part of the truth isn't being reported, if you report just on what he says.
GEORGE LAKOFF: If you're reporting, you’re reporting on what he says. Now, however, when you report on what he says and it's a lie, you can give a positive background. For example, he says, you know, he’s saved a thousand jobs – not exactly. Carrier Air Conditioning is going to send to Mexico 1,300 jobs of their 2,000, so two-thirds of the jobs are going to Mexico. That could be your lead. He got Mike Pence to pay $700,000 a year from the Indiana state budget directly to Carrier, part of the deal. So the taxpayers are paying the owners of Carrier to keep some of those jobs, one-third of them, when two-thirds of them are going. Now, that’s very, very different from the reporting that says he saved a thousand jobs. And The New York, Times, in their reporting, started by pointing out that all the companies near Carrier, even within a mile, are going to Mexico and nothing is being saved. So that part of the truth isn't being reported, if you report just on what he says.
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link
I fucking love on the media
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link
that's the only NPR show i listen to every week
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link
the bright spot of escalating tensions with china is maybe we'll see some chinese hacks of RNC/trump emails
― 龜, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link
Basically, write a story about what Trump actually does and the impact it has and in your concluding paragraph write something like, "Mr. Trump addressed the aforementioned thermonuclear destruction of Sacramento in a tweet stating '(blank)'"
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link
Reuters U.S. NewsVerified account@ReutersUSJUST IN: Trump chooses pro wrestling magnate Linda McMahon to head Small Business Administration - transition team.
― 龜, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
https://flavorwire.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/camacho.jpg
So close. We're so, so close.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link
i was 50% sure that was another troll headline, but lol it's true
― Nhex, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
I really think the Trump = idiot government meme is dangerous and misleading, there are plenty of people behind him who know what they are doing and have plans to achieve specific and dangerous goals.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
If Trump wasn't rich and didn't know public figures, his cabinet would literally be composed of, like, his next-door-neighbor Deborah for Secretary of Labor and the guy at the newsstand who compliments his ties for Secretary of State.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzGoYqFVEAAb_qT.jpg
― circa1916, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link
from that time article
For both conservative and liberal ideologues, including Sarah Palin and Bernie Sanders, the deal Trump struck with Carrier was an abomination, an example of government using taxpayer money to pick winners and losers. But as Trump told the story in his tower, ideology had nothing to do with it. This was just another tale of a little guy getting his voice heard.“So the other night, I’m watching the news,” Trump began. NBC’s Lester Holt had introduced a segment on the Carrier plant featuring a union representative and a plant worker talking in a bar. The man looked at the camera and spoke to Trump, saying, “We want you to do what you said you were going to do.” Trump claimed this shocked him: “I said, I never said they weren’t going to move, to myself.”But of course he had, as the news segment demonstrated. So Trump says he had no choice. He had to listen to his people. “He energized me, that man,” the President-elect explained. “And I called up the head of United Technologies.”Shortly after he spoke those words, Reince Priebus, the next White House chief of staff, walked into the room. With the tape recorders rolling, Trump began to issue new instructions. “Hey, Reince, I want to get a list of companies that have announced they’re leaving,” he called out. “I can call them myself. Five minutes apiece. They won’t be leaving. O.K.?”He was talking as if he had just realized—at that moment, in the middle of an interview—that he had the power to do what he promised to do on the campaign trail. But it was just a show. At that point, Trump had already had a similar talk with Bill Ford of Ford Motor Co., and he boasted of putting out three other calls out to corporations with outsourcing plans.This is the presidency as improv, as performance art, with good guys, bad guys and suspense. It’s a new thing for the United States of America. The reporters in the room, the voters who will read this article, the nation, the world—we are the audience. A quick study who grew up in Kenosha, Wis., Priebus is far too Midwestern to be mistaken for a showman. But he got what Trump was trying to do, and smiled. “It worked for you last time,” he told the boss.
“So the other night, I’m watching the news,” Trump began. NBC’s Lester Holt had introduced a segment on the Carrier plant featuring a union representative and a plant worker talking in a bar. The man looked at the camera and spoke to Trump, saying, “We want you to do what you said you were going to do.” Trump claimed this shocked him: “I said, I never said they weren’t going to move, to myself.”
But of course he had, as the news segment demonstrated. So Trump says he had no choice. He had to listen to his people. “He energized me, that man,” the President-elect explained. “And I called up the head of United Technologies.”
Shortly after he spoke those words, Reince Priebus, the next White House chief of staff, walked into the room. With the tape recorders rolling, Trump began to issue new instructions. “Hey, Reince, I want to get a list of companies that have announced they’re leaving,” he called out. “I can call them myself. Five minutes apiece. They won’t be leaving. O.K.?”
He was talking as if he had just realized—at that moment, in the middle of an interview—that he had the power to do what he promised to do on the campaign trail. But it was just a show. At that point, Trump had already had a similar talk with Bill Ford of Ford Motor Co., and he boasted of putting out three other calls out to corporations with outsourcing plans.
This is the presidency as improv, as performance art, with good guys, bad guys and suspense. It’s a new thing for the United States of America. The reporters in the room, the voters who will read this article, the nation, the world—we are the audience. A quick study who grew up in Kenosha, Wis., Priebus is far too Midwestern to be mistaken for a showman. But he got what Trump was trying to do, and smiled. “It worked for you last time,” he told the boss.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link
gross
― goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link
interesting:
http://www.mprnews.org/story/2016/12/07/keith-ellison-to-leave-us-house-if-elected-dnc-chair
trump effect begins to hit state legislatures: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/12/07/empowered-by-trump-ohio-legislature-pass-heartbeat-bill-that-would-ban-most-abortions/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_pn-ohio-1215pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
― geometry-stabilized craft (art), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link
if you beamed today's news into the election thread even just a few months ago, no one would ever believe you
blob:http://imgur.com/c1fc218f-c5dc-418c-a2e6-28d2dc0875f7
this is a fucking nightmare
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ofV18V5.png
Newt GingrichVerified account@newtgingrich75 years ago the Japanese displayed professional brilliance and technological power launching surprises from Hawaii to the Philippines
― iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link
Somewhat off topic and inspired by the Ohio bill above, but is anyone familiar with the literature/public discourse of the reproductive rights movement from before Roe v. Wade in the 50s and 60s. Did they have their own version of Rachel Carson's Silent Spring? Right now, my mind is a blank. I imagine pulp novels where loose women "got their due" at a hack abortionist, but to me, there's like a big cultural void in discussing this outside of law courts and narrow confines of reproductive rights feminism before the early 70s.
― Brace for impact (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link
it just feels like this whole transition has been run by a clutch of dipshit rich kid villains from a savage steve holland movie, guys who don't care about anything except being dicks
― maura, Thursday, 8 December 2016 01:08 (seven years ago) link
Anyone listening to Robert Reich trying to talk sense to Jeffrey Lord on CNN? It's stupefying.
― clemenza, Thursday, 8 December 2016 01:41 (seven years ago) link
It all just keeps getting worse and worse
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 December 2016 02:03 (seven years ago) link
yeah running out of small things to be hopeful for
― iatee, Thursday, 8 December 2016 02:18 (seven years ago) link
i realize you can all puncture my argument for hope intellectually here but what is the point of that? i am probably younger than most in this thread (or on ILX) and my generation makes me hopeful. and i worked in ed and the kids younger than i give me even more hope. they're smart and informed and capable. you should root for them, and subsquently yourselves
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 8 December 2016 05:16 (seven years ago) link
just the settling on accepting all things fucking dire gets really exhausting and i've only personally managed to break out of that, i think logically you are all correct but how does that help anyone, let's get absurd and not agree to this. the worst that can happen is that we die and that's bound to happen sooner or later
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 8 December 2016 05:19 (seven years ago) link
Counterpoint: young ppl make me sick
― sleepingbag, Thursday, 8 December 2016 05:20 (seven years ago) link
we could die slowly
― j., Thursday, 8 December 2016 05:21 (seven years ago) link
when I feel despair I try to remember just how many times before America has gone through horrifying shit. We had slavery, we had a civil war, we had jim crow, we had all kinds of restoration-era mayhem, the depression, mccarthy, nixon etc. I mean I try not to get into that "well fuck this is going to ruin america now!" mindset because that implies that America was ok until now, but it only had relatively short periods of okayness, and never for everyone.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 8 December 2016 05:24 (seven years ago) link
I feel like the deep government might kick in and restrain Trump
― Treeship, Thursday, 8 December 2016 05:25 (seven years ago) link
More specifically i think people in the intelligence community might know he is going to get impeached due to the conflict of interest stuff. That gives us pence which sucks but might be a "safer"adversary now. I think this bc i cant imagine the head of the fbi really wanted trump, as it now appears
― Treeship, Thursday, 8 December 2016 05:30 (seven years ago) link
Counterpoint: young ppl make me sick― sleepingbag, Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:20 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
tell me more
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 8 December 2016 05:31 (seven years ago) link
what's the last population of young people you've encountered and where and who were they? i'm confronting you on this because i'm probably gonna have to deal with more of the fallout (no pun intended i hope) from this bullshit than you will, so i definitely fucking scorn your cynicism
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 8 December 2016 05:36 (seven years ago) link
yeah, go young people, but also they didn't fucking show up to vote in 2016 (4th lowest turnout since 1972), and the white young hopeful people voted for trump 48-43
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 December 2016 05:48 (seven years ago) link
Jesus, seriously? Do you know the age range for that? Is it under 30 or under 40
― Treeship, Thursday, 8 December 2016 05:50 (seven years ago) link
18-29
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-09/what-this-election-taught-us-about-millennial-voters
(based on exit polls so apologies if i'm spreading total bullshit)
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 December 2016 05:54 (seven years ago) link
not picking on your post in particular - lots of people have expressed very similar attitude, and it's probably a healthy attitude! i wish i could have that attitude and whistle on my way to work, if i had a job - but my initial reaction is that while the country/ imagined community of the united states survived these terrible things before and remained intact, that doesn't negate the suffering of all the people whose lives whose lives were shattered. yeah, the idea of the country carried on but it fucking BLEW for a lot of people. that makes me feel despair. if there was some sort of deal to prevent the suffering of non-white men over the next 4 years in exchange for a miraculously peaceful dissolution of the united states, i'd take it in a heartbeat. yes, we will suffer through trump and we will see horrifying shit and life will continue, horribly, for millions of people. the rug is on fire and it's spreading to the curtains and the fire department is 25 miles away, but yes, we will take our vital possessions or our hamsters with us and find a new place to live
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 December 2016 05:55 (seven years ago) link