i understand why they do it but honestly this show is not worth the time to read a thinkpiece, let alone write one.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 5 December 2016 22:31 (nine years ago)
I thought that was fun!
The plotting and character motivation is such a weird mix of dense overplotting vs. let's make this up as we go along
But overall, pretty good!
HBO should just go the whole hog and give Verhoeven a TV show though
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:01 (nine years ago)
Basically, I really enjoyed all the violence and the existential stuff was a bit snoozy
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:02 (nine years ago)
there was some extra violence after the credits in case you missed it
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:05 (nine years ago)
found this excruciatingly drawn out though. Predictably enough, the overexplaining that was required to make sure everyone got the multiple timelines thing just killed the episode dead
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:07 (nine years ago)
Thanks for the post-credits tip!
― schwantz, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:14 (nine years ago)
go the whole hog and give Verhoeven a TV show though
Sadly, I think Verhoeven is done w/ working in the USA.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:59 (nine years ago)
Trying to work up enough frustration and annoyance for some mid-level internet outrage but I got nothing. Was hoping that Maeve would have at least taken the monorail outside (big reveal: a planetoid city or something) before succumbing to the oldest plot device in the book. I hope season two is entirely Samurai World - hell, every season should be a different world.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 08:20 (nine years ago)
I suspect their budget doesn't stretch to showing the outside world
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 10:09 (nine years ago)
THere have been a couple of photographs shown for very short stretches that were taken in the normal world but mocking up a photograph is presumably a heck of a lot cheaper than making a set or the effects for an actor to act in.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 10:19 (nine years ago)
I thought the seemingly endless elevator ride down to the trains worked as a decent teaser of what the outside world might be.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:43 (nine years ago)
Yeah that was intriguing!
― kinder, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:58 (nine years ago)
Isn't that just because the facility is at the top of a mesa
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:05 (nine years ago)
They were already down on whichever level that has shared infrastructure with Samurai World
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:14 (nine years ago)
Still down to the terminal
http://www.inverse.com/amp/article/22284-westworld-delos-map-mesa-gold
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:20 (nine years ago)
Finally finished the episode
I don't know why you guys were calling it Eastworld when there was clearly an SW logo
I was really hoping to see an old drunk Logan turn up at the reception
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:24 (nine years ago)
I tried twice to finish E9 and could NOT MAKE IT
Which I took as a sign
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:26 (nine years ago)
This isn't back til 2018 btw
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:29 (nine years ago)
Scene with the blonde replicant hiding, then moving her eyes, then kicking ass was pure Pris
― calstars, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:40 (nine years ago)
so I've always shut this off right when the credits start but I noticed this episode had a post-credit sequence with the Charlize Theron tattoo-bot ripping her own arm off. Did the other episode have scenes at the end?
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:50 (nine years ago)
https://d17oy1vhnax1f7.cloudfront.net/items/3E2P1u25301Y3I091d2z/season%201%20is%20over.gif
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:10 (nine years ago)
theyre, wearing underwear
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:23 (nine years ago)
eastworld intriguing, eastworld
i liked it. you are all whiners. I took a good 15 minute snooze in the middle though.
― akm, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:41 (nine years ago)
Instead of stars this show should have a "ZZZZ" scale
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:46 (nine years ago)
i think the show embracing its complete pulp trashiness worked for a satisfying finale (also believe this to be true of the 9th episode, which, again, had people FUCKING IN A BURNING TENT).
still too long, still too much exposition, and the reveal that all the william stuff was dolores being stuck in various memories and losing her mind in time did not cover up how silly it was to treat william=man in black like a big secret (as it was guessed quickly by most)
but what the hell. i enjoyed it. i think that having blown up the show's foundation is a good thing, and that maybe, much like the leftovers team, they could take some of the various criticisms that have been bandied about and retool for a second season that properly addressed those issues and made something that worked as more than a mystery box.
― i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:27 (nine years ago)
I wonder what the vibe was on Logan & William's tram ride back out of the park, and subsequent Thanksgiving dinner.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:39 (nine years ago)
maybe he went straight up insane
― i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:47 (nine years ago)
"Logan doesn't usually get THIS drunk"
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:59 (nine years ago)
"Guys, listen to me. You think William is like this nice, gentle guy--but I literally saw him cut off 500 arms and legs!"
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:07 (nine years ago)
"nah. william? whaaaat? never happen. you're losing it logan ol' pal time for yr thorazine"
― i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:12 (nine years ago)
Westworld, where all your fanboy theories come true!
What a waste tbh. Enjoyed the finale finally getting to where it was obviously always going to get to but there was no weight to any of it. Less of a drama, more of a computer programme executing something shiny that you'd told it to do. The entire series should have been two episodes max - and in terms of whatever grand narrative they have planned, everything that happened is only a prologue.
Disappointed that Maeve didn't make it to the mysterious real world too but was that meant to be her finally making an independent decision? Or was she always programmed to turn back?
Logan turned out to be both more interesting and more likeable than William, whose arc was basically "went mad, stayed boring". Feel like we could've done with the scene where he decided Logan needed to be naked.
I get why Dolores's story was told in a confusing non-linear multiple timeline way but even if that's what was happening to her, it leeched the narrative of any drama or easily followable sense.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:19 (nine years ago)
Every Maeve scene, and Armistice/Hector helping her break out, was like a million times more electrifying than ANY other scene.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:20 (nine years ago)
Less of a drama, more of a computer programme executing something shiny that you'd told it to do
they're being meta, don't you see
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:21 (nine years ago)
lex otm
this was dumb and sucked. what a slog.
when the lindelof show beats you at mystery, setting and heartstring tugging you've really blown it hard
― goole, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:34 (nine years ago)
i was really hoping maeve was going to kill more people in this
― akm, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:54 (nine years ago)
by shooting laser beams from her eyes!
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:55 (nine years ago)
Feel like we could've done with the scene where he decided Logan needed to be naked.
I think the drama as William connived, looking off into the horizon, his true self or potential revealed... was all a bit undercut by Logan's pubes just over his shoulder.
― Evan, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:12 (nine years ago)
i kinda liked the complete absurdity of that but i am totally accepting this show's dumbness
― i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 20:33 (nine years ago)
lex otm, tho i still enjoyed this as dumb entertainment
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 20:50 (nine years ago)
i thought william murdered logan
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:50 (nine years ago)
i also thought that -- sent him off into the wilderness on the horse and left him to die
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:51 (nine years ago)
where he has amassed a group of misfit wildling androids who will feature prominently in season two
― A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:59 (nine years ago)
That was my first thought too, but it seems like there would have been greater fallout from that, especially if William is supposed to have come back to his father-in-law and been like "hey, that place was great, we should definitely invest in its future!"
xp
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 22:01 (nine years ago)
I'm not sure I really understand how it works but I thought the guests and hosts locations were monitored despite their freedom, and you'd think there would be some security in place to keep guests from wandering off and dying.
― Evan, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 22:01 (nine years ago)
and those are just a few of the many truck sized plot holes
― A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 22:07 (nine years ago)
Well that's the thing I'm not sure what is implied in regards to Logan's fate.
― Evan, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 22:12 (nine years ago)
If it's in the past it may be before the monitoring was that good
― banfred bann (wins), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 22:13 (nine years ago)
I only watched a couple of episodes of lost but it's funny that people were worrying that this last episode wouldn't provide any answers when they should have been worrying about 90 minutes of "answers" being hella boring
― banfred bann (wins), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 22:15 (nine years ago)
I hope what Nolan/Joy do NOT try and do next season is try and retcon all of the plot holes. Cuz I could see them spending the whole season on it.
― schwantz, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 01:16 (nine years ago)