you really think a post-fact republican electorate is somehow going to realise that the reason their lives have gotten worse after trump takes power is because of the people they voted for
maybe not 100% of them, but if 20% of them do that could be enough to swing the swing states back in the right direction
― the late great, Monday, 5 December 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link
not saying he shouldn't be fact-checked -- how often does he tell the truth per day? -- but don't expect it to be his downfall
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 December 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link
http://blueamerica.crooksandliars.com/howie-klein/why-its-not-all-gloom-and-doom-around
Howie Klein's Blue America pac funds left-wing candidates in the house.
On his blog and twitter he is doom and gloom though, grumbling about Republicans, corporate Dems, rural centrist Dems, the House Dem progressive caucus for including a Silicon valley Dem rep who he says is not progressive, Pelosi, etc.
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/
― curmudgeon, Monday, 5 December 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
xp- I don't think anyone's expecting that
― flopson, Monday, 5 December 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
When I was a kid and "political twitter" was called Usenet, I was in a group with Klein that argued with conservatives in the waning days of the Clinton era. He seemed like a good dude if pretty high-strung, especially about Israel IIRC. Somewhere I have a mix CD he sent to everyone with a lewd electronic song that samples Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing "Sex With Your Parents."
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:18 (seven years ago) link
^^ said in the voice of Linda Hamilton voice-over in Terminator 2.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link
Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing "Sex With Your Parents."
best duet of all time imo
― the criss angel's death song (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link
also ty for new screenname
― Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing Sex With Your Parents (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link
thank god for quotation marks
― ¶ (DJP), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link
bizarro, your second post predictably acted on the idea planted in my head by your first post. Bravo.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/kalebhorton/status/805855988263698432
um
― frogbs, Monday, 5 December 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link
nothing on pat mcrory losing (and finally conceding?)
liked this article:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/12/why-pat-mccrory-lost-and-what-it-means-in-trumps-america.html
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 5 December 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link
I'm embarrassed to say this is the first I've heard of Moral Mondays. But when I googled and a Redstate article started off with "North Carolina's icon of rotund pomposity, “Reverend” William Barber, has lumbered forth to lead another “Moral Monday” protest in Raleigh..." I figured if it pisses them off it must be good. Sign me up.
― Devastatin' Dan the Suggest Ban Man (Dan Peterson), Monday, 5 December 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link
Still would love to know how McCrory lost when Trump won in NC.
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Monday, 5 December 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link
McCrory pissed off a lot of Republican voters with his I-77 highway toll plan, as dumb as that sounds. He lost at least 15,000 votes in solidly Republican areas of northern Mecklenburg County, which was enough to account for the margin of victory and more. Pundits are going to act like it was HB2 that did it, but nope, highways. Nothing to see here.
http://wfae.org/post/mccrory-loses-home-turf-blame-i-77-tolls-hb2-shifting-vote-patterns
― Gatemouth, Monday, 5 December 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link
So people are actually *worse* than I thought. Good to know!
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Monday, 5 December 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link
i put McCrory in the other thread, what i think of for non-federal non-WH news
American politics 2016: Lawyers, Guns, and D-Money
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 December 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link
now Dana Rohrabacher is the possible State appointee? are they trying to see who can induce the most puking?
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 December 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link
hahaha waaaaaht
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link
he was my district rep growing up, have hated him literally all my life
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link
I joked about it before but my ability to laugh about the idea of a President Luthor assembling his Legion of Doom has diminished as that comparison has become more scarily accurate (minus the superpowers, thankfully).
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 December 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link
for those of you unfamiliar w/ Dana
https://twitter.com/jeremyscahill/status/805806949644333056
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 December 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/cool_as_heck/status/803343911364149248
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Monday, 5 December 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link
btw Gore did get face time w/ the Yam himself, said it was "an extremely interesting conversation"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38211695
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 December 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link
not sure what to make of that
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 5 December 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
"It was like speaking to a nascent form of artificial intelligence that's in the process of understanding sentence structure and what words mean. Fascinating."
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 December 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link
bizarre
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link
maybe heartening because i've read that the people closest to his ears are his kids and he basically just seems to think whatever the last person told him to think
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 5 December 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link
if I was in his cabinet my immediate strategy would be to make sure I was always the last one to talk to Chump
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
that was the strategy observed by Reagan-Bush II advisors
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 December 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link
I love the anecdotal tale of his advisers influencing him by appearing on TV and introducing their ideas via that conduit.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 December 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link
There are going to be a lot of oval office meetings that involve someone accidentally dropping their pen on the way out the door, searching for it until everyone else has left, and then getting the last word in with trump
― Karl Malone, Monday, 5 December 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link
http://www.xe.com/en/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=CNY
looks like Trump just took out the Chinese economy with a couple of tweets
― frogbs, Monday, 5 December 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link
if you want a vision of the future, imagine a room full of people on their hands and knees scouring the carpet for their 'lost' pens / phones / contact lenses which none of them ever find, while an oblivious president trump tweets the nuclear codes xp
― Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 December 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link
That is the opposite of the direction he wanted their currency to go in, tbf.
xp
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Monday, 5 December 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link
that BBC image of gore on the elevator makes it look like he's about to be encased in carbonite
― geometry-stabilized craft (art), Monday, 5 December 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link
well, it *would* be a carbon sink
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/opinion/why-i-will-not-cast-my-electoral-vote-for-donald-trump.html?smid=tw-share
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 5 December 2016 23:28 (seven years ago) link
He is going to vote for kasich or something dumb like that. We need these traitors to be traitors for us. They need to vote for Clinton.
― Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 23:35 (seven years ago) link
this is not going to matter
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link
Yeah that too
― Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 23:44 (seven years ago) link
I want Trump's transition to be resisted at all turns though. This way when he does something egregious no one can say they are surprised. He shouldn't be treated like a normal president.
― Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 23:45 (seven years ago) link
i guess trump can now cross 'diversity?' off the to-do list he scrawled on the back of an envelope on nov 9
― the criss angel's death song (bizarro gazzara), Monday, December 5, 2016
see, this is where contemporary identity politics falls apart. there is nothing diverse about a cabinet of 100% assholes.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 02:26 (seven years ago) link
imagine if a bunch of electors don't vote for trump, somehow he doesn't get the office, but he still knows all these huge secrets he's been briefed on (at least the ones he's bothered to listen to). his twitter feed would be pretty funny next year
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 December 2016 04:15 (seven years ago) link
Then he could go into exile as Snowden's roommate!
Apparently Bob Dole helped arrange the phone call to Taiwan. That rascally scamp!
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 11:54 (seven years ago) link
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/308915-report-bob-dole-organized-trumps-call-with-taiwan-president
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:04 (seven years ago) link
Donald Trump's call with Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen was organized by Bob Dole, a former Republican senator and one-time presidential nominee, the Wall Street Journal reports.
Dole told the Journal that the law firm he is affiliated with does work with the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office in the U.S. “It’s fair to say that we may have had some influence,” he said.
People in DC are going to stop wearing pants when it gets warm again. Just let it breathe. Discretion is for nerds.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:18 (seven years ago) link
Weird.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:23 (seven years ago) link
Well.
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) has "reservations" about privatizing Medicare, she told the Portland Press Herald.
“Suffice it to say I have a number of reservations,” Collins told the newspaper. “A complete upending of a program (Medicare) that by and large serves seniors well is not something that appeals to me.”
Collins' comments signals an early and significant departure from GOP unity on the issue, which will be needed to overhaul something like Medicare and will be essential to repealing and replacing Obamacare. If Republicans lose too many lawmakers on these topics, they won't be able to follow through with promises to gut Obamacare.
Collins said she had voted against similar proposals to voucherize Medicare in the past.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/susan-collins-has-reservations-about-privatizing-medicare
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:20 (seven years ago) link
Would be amusing if after all this handwringing at the imminent horrors of the Trump administration, what bogs them down and ties them up is reimagining US health care. Talk about a quagmire ...
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link