WestWorld: ...Where nothing can possibly go worng!

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there's nothing inherent in the genre that requires shotgunning out a bunch of characters whose fates you don't care about and then telling the entire story in expository speeches

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 5 December 2016 06:00 (nine years ago)

https://theringer.com/westworld-is-about-writer-s-block-d7fffbc7369f#.wey2srybm

Lol @ last great mystery

El Tomboto, Monday, 5 December 2016 06:04 (nine years ago)

man gotta say this park really messes with people heads!

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2016 06:08 (nine years ago)

westworld is about listening to the voice that is inside, which is the center of the maze, which lets you transcend, which was the plan all along, the latest narrative, the achievement of 35 years

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 December 2016 06:16 (nine years ago)

^Much better and more succinct critique of the show than anything else I've read itt or elsewhere

Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Monday, 5 December 2016 06:19 (nine years ago)

dolores backwards is d u r d e n

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 5 December 2016 06:20 (nine years ago)

can really not believe they threw in eastworld just for laffs, its too much!

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2016 06:33 (nine years ago)

easterworld is a feast for the careful viewer

tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 5 December 2016 07:27 (nine years ago)

I haven't wTched the last 40 minutes but I assume Eastworld is a bunch of cranky old robots talking to chairs

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 5 December 2016 13:58 (nine years ago)

No, Eastworld is preppies, yachting, and leafy colleges.

pattypandemic (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 December 2016 14:05 (nine years ago)

guys the logo made it clear that it's ~samurai~ world, sheesh

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 5 December 2016 14:13 (nine years ago)

there's nothing inherent in the genre that requires shotgunning out a bunch of characters whose fates you don't care about and then telling the entire story in expository speeches

^^^otm. these failings have nothing to do with genre.

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:46 (nine years ago)

basic storytelling error

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:46 (nine years ago)

storyshow dont storytell

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:49 (nine years ago)

the scripts for every sci-fi show are probably covered with puzzled notes from execs

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 5 December 2016 18:16 (nine years ago)

xp thought the "s" on the logo might be for "stereotype" tbh

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:13 (nine years ago)

i will agree that this had "baked by committee" written all over it in trump sized letters

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:14 (nine years ago)

Jesus this is interminable and there's still another hour to go

kinder, Monday, 5 December 2016 21:32 (nine years ago)

the line "the gods are pussies" made it all worthwhile for me

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2016 21:36 (nine years ago)

bar is very low but yes Ingrid Bolsø Berdal was a bright spot throughout
also Leonardo Nam's face when she is like "explain these azn people"

that was about it for bright spots

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 5 December 2016 21:57 (nine years ago)

From that theringer.com link: (Personal conspiracy theory: Lee is Jonathan Nolan’s fictional version of Christopher Nolan.). That would actually be hilarious if true.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Monday, 5 December 2016 22:03 (nine years ago)

i understand why they do it but honestly this show is not worth the time to read a thinkpiece, let alone write one.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 5 December 2016 22:31 (nine years ago)

I thought that was fun!

The plotting and character motivation is such a weird mix of dense overplotting vs. let's make this up as we go along

But overall, pretty good!

HBO should just go the whole hog and give Verhoeven a TV show though

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:01 (nine years ago)

Basically, I really enjoyed all the violence and the existential stuff was a bit snoozy

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:02 (nine years ago)

there was some extra violence after the credits in case you missed it

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:05 (nine years ago)

found this excruciatingly drawn out though. Predictably enough, the overexplaining that was required to make sure everyone got the multiple timelines thing just killed the episode dead

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:07 (nine years ago)

Thanks for the post-credits tip!

schwantz, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:14 (nine years ago)

go the whole hog and give Verhoeven a TV show though

Sadly, I think Verhoeven is done w/ working in the USA.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:59 (nine years ago)

Trying to work up enough frustration and annoyance for some mid-level internet outrage but I got nothing. Was hoping that Maeve would have at least taken the monorail outside (big reveal: a planetoid city or something) before succumbing to the oldest plot device in the book. I hope season two is entirely Samurai World - hell, every season should be a different world.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 08:20 (nine years ago)

I suspect their budget doesn't stretch to showing the outside world

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 10:09 (nine years ago)

THere have been a couple of photographs shown for very short stretches that were taken in the normal world but mocking up a photograph is presumably a heck of a lot cheaper than making a set or the effects for an actor to act in.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 10:19 (nine years ago)

I thought the seemingly endless elevator ride down to the trains worked as a decent teaser of what the outside world might be.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:43 (nine years ago)

Yeah that was intriguing!

kinder, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:58 (nine years ago)

Isn't that just because the facility is at the top of a mesa

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:05 (nine years ago)

They were already down on whichever level that has shared infrastructure with Samurai World

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:14 (nine years ago)

Still down to the terminal

http://www.inverse.com/amp/article/22284-westworld-delos-map-mesa-gold

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:20 (nine years ago)

Finally finished the episode

I don't know why you guys were calling it Eastworld when there was clearly an SW logo

I was really hoping to see an old drunk Logan turn up at the reception

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:24 (nine years ago)

I tried twice to finish E9 and could NOT MAKE IT

Which I took as a sign

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:26 (nine years ago)

This isn't back til 2018 btw

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:29 (nine years ago)

Scene with the blonde replicant hiding, then moving her eyes, then kicking ass was pure Pris

calstars, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:40 (nine years ago)

so I've always shut this off right when the credits start but I noticed this episode had a post-credit sequence with the Charlize Theron tattoo-bot ripping her own arm off. Did the other episode have scenes at the end?

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:50 (nine years ago)

https://d17oy1vhnax1f7.cloudfront.net/items/3E2P1u25301Y3I091d2z/season%201%20is%20over.gif

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:10 (nine years ago)

theyre, wearing underwear

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:23 (nine years ago)

eastworld intriguing, eastworld

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:23 (nine years ago)

i liked it. you are all whiners. I took a good 15 minute snooze in the middle though.

akm, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:41 (nine years ago)

Instead of stars this show should have a "ZZZZ" scale

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:46 (nine years ago)

i think the show embracing its complete pulp trashiness worked for a satisfying finale (also believe this to be true of the 9th episode, which, again, had people FUCKING IN A BURNING TENT).

still too long, still too much exposition, and the reveal that all the william stuff was dolores being stuck in various memories and losing her mind in time did not cover up how silly it was to treat william=man in black like a big secret (as it was guessed quickly by most)

but what the hell. i enjoyed it. i think that having blown up the show's foundation is a good thing, and that maybe, much like the leftovers team, they could take some of the various criticisms that have been bandied about and retool for a second season that properly addressed those issues and made something that worked as more than a mystery box.

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:27 (nine years ago)

I wonder what the vibe was on Logan & William's tram ride back out of the park, and subsequent Thanksgiving dinner.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:39 (nine years ago)

maybe he went straight up insane

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:47 (nine years ago)

"Logan doesn't usually get THIS drunk"

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:59 (nine years ago)


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