hey all I'm saying is that someone who worked on her staff told me that Warren was specifically told not to run, whether by HRC or DNC I dunno, not verified, just hearsay
― sleeve, Friday, 2 December 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link
'told' is probably the wrong verb here - she doesn't have a boss. I am sure lots of high level democrats individually advised her against running because it seemed at the time like it would be a lost cause.
― iatee, Friday, 2 December 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link
yeah "asked" is prob better - friend also pointed out that she's not as much of a rogue element as Sanders, and heeded the requests out of courtesy
― sleeve, Friday, 2 December 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link
there's no way of knowing what kind of national-campaign politician EW would have been. P4reene made this point in the spring.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 December 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link
winning elections are not a slamdunk just bcz you're smart and coherent
morbz otm here
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Friday, 2 December 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link
who the fuck knows what wouldve happened
I'm a big Warren fan but after Dukakis and Kerry (and Romney), a Massachusetts politician did not seem like a slam dunk winner at all.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 2 December 2016 21:51 (seven years ago) link
she might make a fine candidate at some point
she is going to be 71 at the time of the next circus.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 December 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link
can we get Elizabeth II to run
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 December 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link
warren's from oklahoma. she might have been adopted by the state and is a MA senator, but she's nowhere comparable to being a native like kerry or dukakis. she grew up in the realest of 'real america'.
― iatee, Friday, 2 December 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link
Trump wd've yelled "Pocahontas" for 6 months and perhaps won
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 December 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link
not sure if anyone posted this P4reene devil's-advocate piece that shoots down the Dem laments
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/how-to-talk-to-your-shithead-liberal-nephew-over-the-ho-1789319216
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link
WI judge rejects stoppage of recount
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link
I saw reports of people working the recount griping that this was taking place 'during the holidays' yet the recount has to be done and the vote certified by 12/13
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link
So why is Trump, Inc., trying to stop the recounts? Gotta admit, not a good look to claim the election is rigged, win anyway, re-insist it's rigged and that there was fraud, and then sue to stop recounts.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 December 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link
Trump does and says what he wants without any regard to consistency, logic or common sense. Get used to it, I guess.
Trump doesn't care about nagl.
― silverfish, Friday, 2 December 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link
"there were also other good candidates that got 0 votes because they were told not to run so that clinton could get her turn"
such as? seriously, I'm curious what other contenders the Dems even had this time out. I can't think of any aside from Warren and Biden.
― akm, Friday, December 2, 2016 3:43 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
those are the 2 i had in mind
― ciderpress, Friday, 2 December 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link
so, Exxon for Sec of State?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sarah-anderson/trump-may-tap-overpaid-oi_b_13375562.html
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link
Raymond retired from ExxonMobil at the end of 2005, and his near $70 million in compensation for the year seemed, at the time, a more than ample reward for his career of service to company shareholders. Company directors disagreed. This past April, news reports revealed that Raymond walked off into the retirement sunset with a going-away pay package that sets a staggeringly new golden parachute standard.This retirement package — a grab-bag of stock options, restricted stock awards from previous years, retirement-independent salary, and bonuses, plus a $1 million consulting contract, security services, a car and driver, access to the company corporate jet, and $210,800 in country club fees — would add up to nearly $400 million.“He is a porker of the first order,” executive pay expert Graef Crystal told Bloomberg after the news of Raymond’s good fortune broke. “Those CEOs out there who are doing better at the trough must be thrilled he’s flying fighter cover for them.”
This retirement package — a grab-bag of stock options, restricted stock awards from previous years, retirement-independent salary, and bonuses, plus a $1 million consulting contract, security services, a car and driver, access to the company corporate jet, and $210,800 in country club fees — would add up to nearly $400 million.
“He is a porker of the first order,” executive pay expert Graef Crystal told Bloomberg after the news of Raymond’s good fortune broke. “Those CEOs out there who are doing better at the trough must be thrilled he’s flying fighter cover for them.”
If he had to liquidate his stock options like Hank Paulson did he wont take a loss. Exxon's stock in 2005 was around 50. Today its trading at $87
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link
"yeah "asked" is prob better - friend also pointed out that she's not as much of a rogue element as Sanders, and heeded the requests out of courtesy"
well yeah, she's actually a democrat and Sanders was/is not.
― akm, Friday, 2 December 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link
and yet Schumer named him to the leadership team. cuuuuurious
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 December 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link
Kinda lol but mostly sad
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 December 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link
Trump 'll say ppl are FANTASTIC, GOOD PEOPLE to literally anyone who dials him on his My First Phone now won't he?
Good luck world.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 December 2016 23:07 (seven years ago) link
Ugh this fucking guy!
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 2 December 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link
my spouse is mad at me now because i refuse to be treated by doctors who are members of the ama. i understand the concern, but if we only object when it is convenient for us, we're not going to ever accomplish anything, will we?
― xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Friday, 2 December 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link
i want to see his official ranking of countries with the most intelligent people
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 December 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link
we have a child as president (and commander in chief of armed forces)
― splendor in the ASS (rip van wanko), Friday, 2 December 2016 23:30 (seven years ago) link
surprised this wasn't posted. real good:
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/now-is-the-time-to-talk-about-what-we-are-actually-talking-about?mbid=social_facebook
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 2 December 2016 23:32 (seven years ago) link
this seems like it is a bad idea
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politics/donald-trump-taiwan/index.html?adkey=bn
― akm, Friday, 2 December 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link
was just coming here to comment on that, terrifying
― sleeve, Friday, 2 December 2016 23:55 (seven years ago) link
trump's been quite open about wanting a fucking trade war with china so I guess he'll get it
― akm, Friday, 2 December 2016 23:58 (seven years ago) link
tbf who else is China gonna sell all their crap to
(not that I am looking forward to this, just joeks bruv)
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 3 December 2016 00:00 (seven years ago) link
I was listening to some Black Metal (Coven, or Evil Ways Instead of Love by Cultes des Ghoules ) while opening the CNN link, not realizing it would have Wolf talking right away - creepy indeed!
― BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 3 December 2016 00:03 (seven years ago) link
Going to (trade?/currency?) war with China, just so that Trump Org can get a new hotel licensee.
Trump wants to expand business empire to Taiwan, creating another potential conflict of interest
― Sanpaku, Saturday, 3 December 2016 01:36 (seven years ago) link
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/sarah-palin-donald-trump-carrier-deal-crony-capitalism-232139?cmpid=sf
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 3 December 2016 01:47 (seven years ago) link
through the looking glass
― sleeve, Saturday, 3 December 2016 01:47 (seven years ago) link
On the bright side, this may mean no Secretary Palin.
― Sanpaku, Saturday, 3 December 2016 01:49 (seven years ago) link
which one's the heel?
― will, Saturday, 3 December 2016 02:28 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD2eKdQ1gqI
euphenism yo. new word for lie.
― Treeship, Saturday, 3 December 2016 05:53 (seven years ago) link
Somehow didn't realize until now that Trump actually tweets back at people in his threads, both supporters and detractors.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Saturday, 3 December 2016 06:06 (seven years ago) link
The Taiwan phone call seems overblown in the context of the US selling close to $2bn of weapons to Taipei over the last two years alone, though it is symbolic . The bigger issue will be Trump's aggressive stance on the valuation of the Yuan and whether additional tariffs will be brought in to try to force them to change it. It's easy to say when you want to boost the prospects for US manufacturing but less easy to do when China holds such a large proportion of US debt.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Saturday, 3 December 2016 08:26 (seven years ago) link
I think you've already thought this out far more than he has.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 December 2016 13:29 (seven years ago) link
He's got hotel interests in Taiwan. The end.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 December 2016 13:33 (seven years ago) link
I assume he's got hotel interests almost everywhere there are people, not least because "his" hotels are often just licensing his name, which gets slapped on front.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 December 2016 13:56 (seven years ago) link
Duterte: Trump says Philippines tackling drug problem 'the right way'
Our president elect just endorsed police murdering suspects; death squads murdering informants, human rights activists, and journalists; and fathomless police corruption.
― Sanpaku, Saturday, 3 December 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link
tbf there's no evidence trump actually said this, and if he did say it it there's no evidence he has any idea what's going on in the phillippines
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 3 December 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link
There is no evidence Trump understands anything. That's not a defense of all the dumb shit he does. He took a job.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 3 December 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link
No defense, just saying the issue is "Trump has no clue" not "Trump loves murder"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 3 December 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link
The Duerte thing is troubling, but I think there's a better than decent chance that Trump never said anything and Duerte made it up completely
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Saturday, 3 December 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link