did you guys post that chris hedges thing that someone posted on my facebook? i kept expecting to hear the star wars theme at the end of that. the rebels will be our hope!
long story short: the renegade sculptors will save us in the future.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link
Doc Casino totally otm. Saying dumb reactionary bullshit is fine when you're a cartoon reality star but this dude is going to be president and that's seriously terrifying. Like hearing your dad say, "when I was your age I used to fuck broads like that all the time!!"
― frogbs, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link
The combined age of Pelosi and Hoyer is bigger than Yoda's.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link
I guess legislation that has a reasonable chance of passage and ending on the president's desk for signature scares me more than our moron president sharing an opinion on Twitter.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link
apropos of nothing - how long before Alex Jones turns on Trump? Dude's whole schtick is built on being the opposition, I can't see him carrying water for an actual regime
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link
yup. keep yr eye on the ball here people, it's policy that matters most of all.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:38 PM (thirty-seven seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there are enough scapegoats for people like him to oppose
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link
but they aren't in power
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link
like, his whole bit is about secret conspiracies at the highest echelons of power - things "they don't want you to know" - that dynamic kinda doesn't work if you're tacitly supporting the most powerful person on the planet.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
alex jones can just spend more time on things like planet x and the treasonous liberal opposition, who made a deal with the reptilians
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link
― scott seward, Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:35 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I haven't read it, but I find Chris Hedges to be a complete waste of time. Depressive and demoralizing harpers mag bullshit.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link
And just as only a confirmed anti-Communist like Richard Nixon could go to China
was expecting exactly this line from exactly this newspaper but not before the inauguration :(
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link
we need a caption contest. check, please!
https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15230707_10155332447897137_533184752526472410_n.jpg?oh=6703e3be2c6e27853b09841c506d418a&oe=58C0494C
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link
"these are the buoys in the shipyard of flavortown"
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link
hahaha
― sleeve, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
I'll repeat: they're not drinking wine, that's a bottle of sparkling water in the wine bucket. Ugh.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
How much did he pay the photographer for that shot?
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
amuse-douche
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link
p sure those are Romney's own balls on that plate
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
the abject public humiliation of really rich people is so much more bearable than any other style. look at sad ol' mitt romney, eating a really nice dinner at fancy restaurant in manhattan. then he's going to have to figure out how to accept some cabinet level position in a way that doesn't make him feel like such a hypocrite. poor guy, hope he comes through this ok.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
I hope they both die in a fire
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link
I do have to wonder what motivates him -- he's rich as shit, has been a governor, and is probably never again going to be positioned to be president no matter what, so what does he get out of this? Surely he could refuse and live out his horse-dancing days in peace?
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link
it is a pretty incredible photo
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link
Drinking water out of wine glasses looks fucken stupid
― badg, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link
there's your friggin' banality of evil right there too. those schmucks are gonna end the world? doesn't seem fair really.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link
so what does he get out of this?
he gets to go farther than his father
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
it's Tic Tac time
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link
that's no ordinary water.
that's Kona Nigari Water, served neat
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link
Idk I think the president-elect spouting off nakedly fascist ideas about how to deal with political dissidents and enemies is seriously concerning even if it's not ''legislation'' or ''policy.'' Insert argument about normalization here. I spent a year hoping we were shifting the window leftwards on what things can be said, discussed, bandied about as viable and familiar solutions - by dads in the street, by newscasters, by sitting politicians at whatever level. Now we look ahead to a fascist turn in all areas. It will take decades to even begin to undo the damage to common understanding of what is beyond the pale in a free society. High school debate topic: okay, y'all argue ''pro'' on sending people to Gitmo for criticizing the troops. Tonight on Crossfire: felony punishment for protestors who use profanity when discussing the president, good or bad idea? Placing BLM on the terrorist watch list: well-intentioned but overreaching, or necessary evil?
Like between this and the Muslim registry idea it's just.... fuck. Obviously much of this is not exactly new (see: Patriot Act, etc etc) but these words matter and are not just a distraction from the other terrifying things Trump is doing elsewhere.
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link
i guess the diff is people kinda liked his dad(?)
who has a non-negative opinion on mitt romney other than "eh"
― will, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link
idk romney taking state means Giuliani or Bolton or petraeus don't get the job which is maybe the strongest public service he's done in his career.
― geometry-stabilized craft (art), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:03 PM (twenty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i agree w/ this
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link
its.... so fucked up
High school debate topic: okay, y'all argue ''pro'' on sending people to Gitmo for criticizing the troops. Tonight on Crossfire: felony punishment for protestors who use profanity when discussing the president, good or bad idea? Placing BLM on the terrorist watch list: well-intentioned but overreaching, or necessary evil?
tbf these all seem p much in the rich tradition of American high school debate topics, going back as far one cares to look. I'm not saying that's a good thing, and this is def a step back in the national discourse, but it's not like there's some golden age where dissent was uniformly respected and the threat of the gov't killing you was remote.
xp
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link
Japanese internment camps, COINTELPRO, previous Muslim registry - there's precedents for all that stuff. the discourse normalizing extreme and ridiculous "solutions" is bad, no doubt, but it's not unprecedented.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link
Xpost photo was referred to upthread as Lynchian, and it certainly is, and then I get back from lunch and open up my newsfeed to this horrifying pic of Giuliani, which looks like Robert Blake in Lost Highway.
http://s259.photobucket.com/user/yodelagogo/media/giuliani.png.htmlhttps://media2.giphy.com/media/2zOEcqG4EuvF6/200_s.gif
― Devastatin' Dan the Suggest Ban Man (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh310/yodelagogo/giuliani_1.png
― Devastatin' Dan the Suggest Ban Man (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link
Having a president and his cronies wilfully spread confusion and paranoia via hundreds of thousands of viral "fake news" articles, however, is a new ripple in the history of American authoritarianism: it shows his naked disregard for the principles of constitutional governance.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link
that is a new one yeah
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link
I'm sure Nixon would've done it if he could have
You don't need to whitewash American history to recognize that Trump's rise is a remarkably fucked up developmeng that threatens to undermine everything worth preserving in our society.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link
Yeah Nixon was a nefarious dirtbag. He at least felt the need to try to hide it though. Trump just makes up his own script and scorns any sort of accountability, Big Brother style
― Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link
that's all true. I just don't feel compelled to spend a lot of time worrying about what he's tweeting or whatever. I don't want to be complicit in ceding power to the medium or his use of it. The sooner a skepticism about shit people see on twitter/facebook/etc. is adopted as a cultural norm the better imo. So I'll treat it as what it is: noise designed to distract.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link
okay, that's better. thanks, internet.
https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15253385_10210167664041750_6738994999794603389_n.jpg?oh=ecc50c6708913528a8f2202e2a0fea4f&oe=58AEF49D
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/RjNN4uu.jpg
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
mitt with the "i picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue" face
― geometry-stabilized craft (art), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
mitt's all like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link
I think Trump is doing something under the table to Mitt, the kind of thing only stars can get away with
― Evan, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link
That lighting makes it look like they're eating little stacks of gold coins.
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/blakehounshell/status/803821372006875137
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link