'only this billionaire can help correct the system that enriched him!' xxp
― trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link
there is going to be 100,000 "mission accomplished" moments aren't there
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link
how do you even write this article without any specifics of the deal in question. especially given that Trump technically has no power to do anything yet. this is so strange.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link
for sure, and undoubtedly they'll be every bit as truthful as the original xp
― trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link
this kind of shit scares me. they will gut medicare, affordable care act, public schools, all of our social programs but a saving a fucking factory w/ a relatively minuscule amount of jobs will have people saying he is helping struggling americans
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link
I wrote to the NYTimes after that article, pasted the link, and basically said "Enjoy being part of the Trump propaganda arm with no remaining readers and the right wing continuing to bash you anyway."
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link
xp how do you write this article and describe "giving taxpayer money to corporations to entice them to keep a few jobs around" as "taking on big business?!?!?!?!"
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link
good news everybody: http://www.wral.com/federal-court-orders-new-nc-legislative-elections-in-2017/16289906/
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:32 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's a booming opinion
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:35 AM (six minutes ago)
yeah can we get 49 more of those?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link
fuck the NYT btw
― Mordy, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link
OTOH (just tweeted by hoos): http://www.eclectablog.com/2016/11/lame-duck-alert-michigan-gop-rushing-through-voter-suppression-legislation-requiring-photo-id-to-vote.html
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
based off of this:
While the standoff loomed large in the lives of its employees in Indiana, for United Technologies the forgone savings is tiny — equivalent to about 2 cents per share in earnings....While Carrier will forfeit some $65 million a year in savings the move was supposed to generate, that’s a small price to pay to avoid the public relations damage from moving the jobs as well as a possible threat to United Technologies’ far-larger military contracting business.Roughly 10 percent of United Technologies’ $56 billion in revenue comes from the federal government; the Pentagon is its single largest customer. With $4 billion in profit last year, the company has the flexibility to find the savings elsewhere.
...While Carrier will forfeit some $65 million a year in savings the move was supposed to generate, that’s a small price to pay to avoid the public relations damage from moving the jobs as well as a possible threat to United Technologies’ far-larger military contracting business.
Roughly 10 percent of United Technologies’ $56 billion in revenue comes from the federal government; the Pentagon is its single largest customer. With $4 billion in profit last year, the company has the flexibility to find the savings elsewhere.
i think carrier will be just fine. 10% of their revenue is from contracting with the federal government, or $5.6 billion. if they wiggle their tongues just the right way as trump twitches his asshole, even increasing their fed contracting revenue by 1-2% will overtake the savings they would have gotten from moving to Mexico.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
if we want to keep carrier in the US we should just threaten their federal contracts
― Mordy, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
It also signals that Mr. Trump is a different kind of Republican
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link
in case we weren't sure yet
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link
you mean a racist demagogue who apparently has no problem with socialism, as long as the only beneficiaries are corporations and white rural "christians"?
― will, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link
FWIW i get the argument that focusing on kooky fox-inspired Trump tweets is taking our eyes of the ball, but the thing about the flag-burning tweet that genuinely turns my blood to ice water is the very very casual tossing-around the idea of stripping people of citizenship and turning them into stateless persons. IIRC this has come up before but it is arguably the strongest case of all for Is Donald Trump A Fascist. like not even that he's proposing it but that he treats it so fucking lightly just like he's at a bar and saying "they should lock those graffiti guys up for life, that's what I think!"
it's a fucking terrifying thing and IMHO very very close on the authoritarian continuum to "flag-burning should be punishable by death" or "flag burning should be punishable by deportation to a forced labor camp." i don't mean for that to sound hyperbolic but i guess a couple readings of arendt and agamben on statelessness and 'bare life' have really sharpened the meaning of this concept to me.
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link
meant to scare quote "socialism"
xpost
― will, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/nymag/status/803982668153110528
― Mordy, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:05 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yea this is how i feel too. it is fucking awful. we've been so used to trump saying stupid crazy shit but he's going to be the president of the united states. it is supremely fucked up.
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link
i agree dr casino.
i'm assuming those are the kinds of "tell it like it is" things that his supporters like. he's already able to get away with casually threatening 1st amendment rights and decades of legal rulings in the weeks after he "won" the election by negative 2.3 million votes. it does frighten me to think of what he will be able to do if the country is perceived to be directly threatened by ISIS or other terrorists.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link
Michael Sebastian @msebastian 6m6 minutes ago
9 years ago Obama was mocked for eating arugula. Today our populist president enjoys "young garlic soup with thyme"
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8383120/heres-everything-trump-and-romney-ate-during-their-very-fancy-dinner/
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
Xpost DC Yeah, Agamben definitely has things to say about the current state of affairs -- DACA recipients, for one.
― the ilx meme is critical of that line of thought (lion in winter), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
pelosi reelected as a house minority leader
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link
vows to keep democrats unified against medicare phaseout https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/11/21/democrats-will-hold-firm-against-paul-ryans-medicare-plan-pelosi-vows/?utm_term=.65bf500c2bf6
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link
That one's a week old. Schumer said yesterday he vowed to fight. "Make my day" or some bullshit.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link
ha thanks, greg sargent's link just showed up in my twitter feed a couple minutes ago
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link
That's also why I think Bernie was underestimated as a candidate btw -- people focused on "facts -- he uses the word socialist, he's jewish, etc. But he came across as a tough, sincere and caring guy who voiced people's anger and wanted to make things better, and people responded to that
Loved Bernie. Though obviously I didn't pay as much attention as you lot did - what am I, Danish?
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
I wish we had a Bernie over here. His older brother doesn't quite cut it.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link
listen, only a businessman like Mr. Trump could take on corporate America without being called a Bernie Sanders-style socialist. if bernie sanders won and then tried to take on corporate america, just imagine what he would be called right now
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link
seriously f this country right now, holy shit
More news:
Nancy Pelosi won her eighth term, easily toppling Rep. Tim Ryan, who launched an upstart bid to replace her in response to the party's disappointing November election results.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link
I love her but I do wonder who she is planning on grooming as a successor
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link
did you guys post that chris hedges thing that someone posted on my facebook? i kept expecting to hear the star wars theme at the end of that. the rebels will be our hope!
long story short: the renegade sculptors will save us in the future.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link
Doc Casino totally otm. Saying dumb reactionary bullshit is fine when you're a cartoon reality star but this dude is going to be president and that's seriously terrifying. Like hearing your dad say, "when I was your age I used to fuck broads like that all the time!!"
― frogbs, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link
The combined age of Pelosi and Hoyer is bigger than Yoda's.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link
I guess legislation that has a reasonable chance of passage and ending on the president's desk for signature scares me more than our moron president sharing an opinion on Twitter.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link
apropos of nothing - how long before Alex Jones turns on Trump? Dude's whole schtick is built on being the opposition, I can't see him carrying water for an actual regime
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link
yup. keep yr eye on the ball here people, it's policy that matters most of all.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:38 PM (thirty-seven seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there are enough scapegoats for people like him to oppose
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link
but they aren't in power
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link
like, his whole bit is about secret conspiracies at the highest echelons of power - things "they don't want you to know" - that dynamic kinda doesn't work if you're tacitly supporting the most powerful person on the planet.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
alex jones can just spend more time on things like planet x and the treasonous liberal opposition, who made a deal with the reptilians
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link
― scott seward, Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:35 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I haven't read it, but I find Chris Hedges to be a complete waste of time. Depressive and demoralizing harpers mag bullshit.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link
And just as only a confirmed anti-Communist like Richard Nixon could go to China
was expecting exactly this line from exactly this newspaper but not before the inauguration :(
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link
we need a caption contest. check, please!
https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15230707_10155332447897137_533184752526472410_n.jpg?oh=6703e3be2c6e27853b09841c506d418a&oe=58C0494C
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link
"these are the buoys in the shipyard of flavortown"
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link
hahaha
― sleeve, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
I'll repeat: they're not drinking wine, that's a bottle of sparkling water in the wine bucket. Ugh.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
How much did he pay the photographer for that shot?
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
amuse-douche
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link