Theranos: truly horrible.
http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/11/the-personal-bloodbath-behind-theranos-rise-and-fall/
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 26 November 2016 19:49 (nine years ago)
http://www.wsj.com/articles/theranos-whistleblower-shook-the-companyand-his-family-1479335963
I like this one where George Shultz basically stopped speaking to his grandson who blew the whistle.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 26 November 2016 19:55 (nine years ago)
Is there any scenario in which Elizabeth Holmes goes to jail for any of this shit? I know the answer but WTF
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 27 November 2016 02:44 (nine years ago)
I want to joke but people have actually died from this via guilt, I would imagine if they made it very far with useless blood tests people would indirectly have died from a lack of diagnostic ability
― mh 😏, Sunday, 27 November 2016 03:23 (nine years ago)
feel like holmes has a better shot at being in the trump administration than going to jail.
― circles, Sunday, 27 November 2016 03:33 (nine years ago)
health and human services post still open iirc
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Sunday, 27 November 2016 03:40 (nine years ago)
Tombot what is your take on the future of 18f/usds in the trump era https://twitter.com/waldojaquith/status/802729794437664768 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-trump-tech-silicon-valley-231819
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 27 November 2016 05:13 (nine years ago)
USDS, specifically the white house / EOP aspect, is probably going to go *poof* if for no other reason than Mikey, Erie et al. are going to find better things to do. That's my hunch.
The 18F people I know are planning to stick it out, like me, and their organization is now "a real boy" as part of the GSA Technology Transformation Service: http://www.gsa.gov/portal/category/25729
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 27 November 2016 06:04 (nine years ago)
"And if you're the person in that role, you might have far more power than you might think. If you're asked to perform work that is going to hurt people, quit then."
If it was President Romney, or Ryan, or even Pence, this would be a good point - if you ask the civil service to do something, and they refuse, that's embarrassing, because you're embarrassable. The same doesn't really apply to Trump?
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 27 November 2016 09:07 (nine years ago)
There's a bit in here that I want to get teased out more in the coming months:
'But Catherine Bracy, who ran the 2012 Obama campaign's technology-focused San Francisco office and now heads the group TechEquity, sees danger in the belief among some of her peers that technology is politically neutral."It's different being [a] lawyer in USDA" who's trained in legal norms, said Bracy, "and being someone building tools that have the potential to make an authoritarian, totalitarian, fascist administration more efficient. We in the civic tech movement have to be careful about how that power gets deployed."'
"It's different being [a] lawyer in USDA" who's trained in legal norms, said Bracy, "and being someone building tools that have the potential to make an authoritarian, totalitarian, fascist administration more efficient. We in the civic tech movement have to be careful about how that power gets deployed."'
We need some sort of cultural reckoning wide enough that it soaks deep into the blithely naïve world of tech/SV but also to all the sheltered kids in school for this stuff that the gear you're working up is this neutral positive.
I dunno; make more students and start-ups watch "Real Genius" a few times or something. Gotta be a start somewhere.
― (rocketcat) (kingfish), Sunday, 27 November 2016 17:42 (nine years ago)
yeah, one fallout of all my STS reading last year, and taking in the discussion in this and the Uber threads, is that maybe one component of my dream of a renewed american social-studies curriculum would be be a unit on thinking critically/historically about technology. i think issues-based readers at the college level have long existed in this vein, but it would be really really helpful going forward if the overwhelming majority of the population didn't think of technology as just this thing that inevitably happens and makes "progress," bearing no values of its own etc. etc. it's a seriously dulling and blinding kind of idea.
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 27 November 2016 17:48 (nine years ago)
"fallout" wrong word obv
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 27 November 2016 17:49 (nine years ago)
as a social studies teacher, i agree with this idea.
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Sunday, 27 November 2016 19:39 (nine years ago)
The best part of the movie Flash of Genius touches on that:
Good morning, everybody. I want to welcome you all to the first day of the quarter for Applied Electrical Engineering. My name is Dr. Robert Kearns and I'd like to start by talking to you about ethics.I can't think of a job or a career where the understanding of ethics is more important than engineering. Who designed the artificial aortic heart valve? An engineer did that. And who designed the gas chambers at Auschwitz? An engineer did that, too. One man was responsible for helping save tens of thousands of lives, another man helped kill millions. Now, I don't know what any of you are gonna end up doing in your lives, but I can guarantee you that there will come a day where you have a decision to make, and it won't be as easy as deciding between a heart valve and a gas chamber. Everything we do in this classroom ultimately comes back to that notion. All right?
I can't think of a job or a career where the understanding of ethics is more important than engineering. Who designed the artificial aortic heart valve? An engineer did that. And who designed the gas chambers at Auschwitz? An engineer did that, too. One man was responsible for helping save tens of thousands of lives, another man helped kill millions.
Now, I don't know what any of you are gonna end up doing in your lives, but I can guarantee you that there will come a day where you have a decision to make, and it won't be as easy as deciding between a heart valve and a gas chamber. Everything we do in this classroom ultimately comes back to that notion. All right?
― El Tomboto, Monday, 28 November 2016 03:34 (nine years ago)
make every brogrammer read about Therac-25
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 28 November 2016 03:39 (nine years ago)
tech/SV but also to all the sheltered kids in school for this stuff that the gear you're working up is this neutral positive.
Oops, should read "is NOT this neutral positive."
― (rocketcat) (kingfish), Monday, 28 November 2016 04:09 (nine years ago)
damn, silby, I had not heard of that particular case
got past the intro and thought "there should be a hardware.." before reading the no hardware interlocks gotcha
jesus christ people, software is great but if a physical safety device is possible, always have one
― mh 😏, Monday, 28 November 2016 05:19 (nine years ago)
I say this but science friends complain about undertrained people loading a centrifuge to spin down samples in an unbalanced manner and I always wonder why the fuck such a thing would start if unbalanced
― mh 😏, Monday, 28 November 2016 05:21 (nine years ago)
HamNo on the weird White House/SV/Stanford anti-poverty event
Of course, the illusion that poverty can be solved by the ingenuity of civic-minded tech zillionaires is an alluring fantasy for the White House. Silicon Valley is the new cradle of extreme wealth in America. Philanthropy is popular with the rich tech set, and that situation is certainly preferable to them hoarding all their money. More preferable still, however, is what we should be doing: taxing extreme wealth (or making it hard to accumulate outlandish fortunes in the first place by passing laws that ensure wealth is spread more fairly) and then using our democratic process to determine how that public revenue is spent. Philanthropy is the privatization of the social safety net.
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Friday, 2 December 2016 21:50 (nine years ago)
http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/19/14004442/talkspace-therapy-app-reviews-patient-safety-privacy-liability-online
I mean WWWWWWTTTTTTTFFFFFFF Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 12:45 (nine years ago)
I think I got a mailer from my insurance company (or one of the little tier of health services company my employer contracts with) about a therapy over video chat thing that they support, which seems... ok? But a public company doing that, without the right patient services and notification systems in place, seems... very SV
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:03 (nine years ago)
After receiving a list of detailed questions, Oren Frank emailed various editors at The Verge, as well as the CEO of Vox Media. "I will not hesitate to have The Verge answer legally, financially and professionally to any unsubstantiated claim, anonymous quote, or libelous statement that results in damage to our business," he wrote in one.
hey buddy maybe your service should answer legally and professionally before you start threatening others
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:20 (nine years ago)
talkspace is UK-based iirc but the dude who runs it seems like tim ferriss if tim ferriss came up under new labour
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:48 (nine years ago)
I'm a little concerned today that basically all technofuturism seems to have no use for or understanding of consent. Looking at you, Google.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 16:24 (nine years ago)
software developers are inhuman garbage is why
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 16:26 (nine years ago)
it's more like - wow this system is kind of hard to use, I'll just make some software that connects users and whatever they want and no other strings attached - people like our service! they get exactly what they want. things are good - uh it turns out some of those "strings" were actual legal requirements but laws are bad - it now seems some of those requirements were to keep people from dying or being harassed into oblivion - day 1385: we have built the perfect system, why must people keep writing about our numerous victims and the pile of trash outside our office door. we will make a profit any day now, we just need another hundred million dollars of investment
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 16:35 (nine years ago)
you don't hear "don't be evil" very often any more
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 16:36 (nine years ago)
someone finally figured out extended negligence and evil are on about equal footing in the morality stakes
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 16:37 (nine years ago)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek)
"well that was never an official slogan anyway, come on don't take it so seriously"
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 17:04 (nine years ago)
it really captures the smug simplicity of SV and the insistence that everyone else is overcomplicating things, despite strong evidence that things have worked out nicely for these guys because of structural advantages.
see also: paul graham and sam altman's terrible life advice
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 17:28 (nine years ago)
being white, middle class, and graduating college in 2003 with a computer science degree worked very well for me, feel free to borrow my template
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 17:47 (nine years ago)
I like how 'disruption' has evolved from shaking up markets to straight up breaking the law for fun and profit
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 17:58 (nine years ago)
― mh
unlike elon musk, i'm having a difficult time leveraging my obvious mental instability for profit
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 18:00 (nine years ago)
i am unsure why trump allows musk in the same room, elon's hair transplant puts whatever bizarre experiment is on donald's head to shame
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 18:49 (nine years ago)
im convinced elon musk has a publicist working reddit. there's so many shitty 'TIL Elon Musk did something mildly interesting' articles and their ilk at the top of /all
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 18:56 (nine years ago)
he inhabits that perfect slice of interest between people who like the environment and modern tech business and people who are five years old and love cars and spaceships
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 19:03 (nine years ago)
and people who love nikola tesla
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 19:27 (nine years ago)
Uber now lets you set a person, not a place, as your destination
innovation in the stalking space
― mookieproof, Thursday, 22 December 2016 17:51 (nine years ago)
there shd be a theranos thread, I love how crazy liz holmes is
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:01 (nine years ago)
yeah, i feel bad for all the people who had to work for her and anyone harmed because they believed in the medical technology
but she is batshit crazy and lol
― mh 😏, Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:52 (nine years ago)
On Saudi Arabia and Twitter's inability to handle doxxing there, amongst other things:
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/your-app-isnt-helping-the-people-of-saudi-arabia-1790198445
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Saturday, 24 December 2016 03:08 (nine years ago)
Peter Thiel, Trump’s Tech Pal, Explains Himself
so this guy is . . . actually a moron?
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 22:22 (nine years ago)
yes
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 22:23 (nine years ago)
ahahahahahahaha that picture
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 22:24 (nine years ago)
“Somehow, I think Silicon Valley got even more spun up than Manhattan. There were hedge fund people I spoke to about a week after the election. They hadn’t supported Trump. But all of a sudden, they sort of changed their minds. The stock market went up, and they were like, ‘Yes, actually, I don’t understand why I was against him all year long.’”
funny
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 22:27 (nine years ago)
The reaction from the gay community has been harsh, with one writer in The Advocate going so far as to suggest that Mr. Thiel was not even a gay man, because he did not “embrace the struggle.”“I think Trump is very good on gay rights,” Mr. Thiel says. “I don’t think he will reverse anything. I would obviously be concerned if I thought otherwise.”I ask if he’s comfortable with the idea that Vice President-elect Mike Pence, regarded in the gay community as an unreconstructed homophobe, is a heartbeat away from the presidency.“You know, maybe I should be worried but I’m not that worried about it,” he replies. “I don’t know. People know too many gay people. There are just all these ways I think stuff has just shifted. For speaking at the Republican convention, I got attacked way more by liberal gay people than by conservative Christian people.
“I think Trump is very good on gay rights,” Mr. Thiel says. “I don’t think he will reverse anything. I would obviously be concerned if I thought otherwise.”
I ask if he’s comfortable with the idea that Vice President-elect Mike Pence, regarded in the gay community as an unreconstructed homophobe, is a heartbeat away from the presidency.
“You know, maybe I should be worried but I’m not that worried about it,” he replies. “I don’t know. People know too many gay people. There are just all these ways I think stuff has just shifted. For speaking at the Republican convention, I got attacked way more by liberal gay people than by conservative Christian people.
weird
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 22:31 (nine years ago)
When I remark that President Obama had eight years without any ethical shadiness, Mr. Thiel flips it, noting: “But there’s a point where no corruption can be a bad thing. It can mean that things are too boring.”When I ask if he is concerned about conflicts of interest, either for himself or the Trump children, who sat in on the tech meeting, he flips that one, too: “I don’t want to dismiss ethical concerns here, but I worry that ‘conflict of interest’ gets overly weaponized in our politics. I think in many cases, when there’s a conflict of interest, it’s an indication that someone understands something way better than if there’s no conflict of interest. If there’s no conflict of interest, it’s often because you’re just not interested.”
When I ask if he is concerned about conflicts of interest, either for himself or the Trump children, who sat in on the tech meeting, he flips that one, too: “I don’t want to dismiss ethical concerns here, but I worry that ‘conflict of interest’ gets overly weaponized in our politics. I think in many cases, when there’s a conflict of interest, it’s an indication that someone understands something way better than if there’s no conflict of interest. If there’s no conflict of interest, it’s often because you’re just not interested.”
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tim-and-eric-mind-blown.gif
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 22:32 (nine years ago)
loooool
― marcos, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 22:34 (nine years ago)
David St. Hubbins: Well, I don't really think that the end can be assessed as of itself as being the end because what does the end feel like? It's like saying when you try to extrapolate the end of the universe, you say, if the universe is indeed infinite, then how - what does that mean? How far is all the way, and then if it stops, what's stopping it, and what's behind what's stopping it? So, what's the end, you know, is my question to you.
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 22:34 (nine years ago)
people know too many gay people according to Thiel, huh
on the other hand, a friend and her husband recently had a niece stay with them for a week, and the description of the whole thing sounded like some sort of caricature of "rural girl graduating high school, trying to plan out her life" when I asked how it went. the niece said she'd never met a gay person
o_O
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 22:38 (nine years ago)