Katrina's POLITICAL aftermath (keep the political discussions HERE)

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"Voodoo Economics"

That's right! I remember thinking that the scene in FBDO seemed to be kind of poking fun at his politics.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Sunday, 4 September 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)

more evidence & rumors swirling about the deliberate withholding of aid to the region. I can't find a link yet, but apparently BBC World Service reported that Northern Command had 9 MILLION MREs ready to go, but were never ordered in.

in other news Fuckhead Chertoff is a cunt worse than Rick Santorum

"The situation is improving hour by hour, nevertheless we are not satisfied," he told a press conference in Washington.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)

This morning on BBC world news, I heard that 9 million figure, but I don't know about the ordering/not ordering bit, I wasn't listening closely. I think the fellow they were interviewing did say that 100K MREs were sent to the dome.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 4 September 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/03/fox-race/

Kanye vid hits Fox News(w/ the expected results) as early as this morning

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

"It was as if an atomic bomb was dropped on New Orleans"
Um, isn't he supposed to be preparing for that as well?

k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 4 September 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

Ever wonder why New Yorkers detest George Bush? by Steve Gilliard.

(posted in the other thread, i think)

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what his login name is, but his writing is laced with ILXisms.

k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 4 September 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

i like this bit:

...The most dangerous thing to average Americans is not some mullah in Iraq, not even Osama Bin Laden, but George Bush. If he doesn't get you killed in Iraq, he'll fuck up saving your city so it turns into Escape from New Orleans. Armed junkies roaming the streets, looking for a fix, robbing and looting like Serb paramilitaries and about as sober....

captures it pretty dead on, especially with that kid commandeering the school bus to get folks the fuck out.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)

Bush Aides Meet With Black Leaders

By TIMOTHY R. BROWN, Associated Press Writer
47 minutes ago

JACKSON, Miss. - President Bush's top advisers met Saturday with black leaders concerned about the administration's slow response to blacks suffering from Hurricane Katrina, while the head of the NAACP said it was not time for "finger-pointing..."

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)

Looks like the talking to Anderson gave Mary Landrieu is sinking in:

'bout fucking time. her androidlike responses were boggling my mind.

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 4 September 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

White House Shifts Blame to Local Officials
By Manuel Roig-Franzia and Spencer Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, September 4, 2005; Page A01

NEW ORLEANS, Sept. 3 -- Tens of thousands of people spent a fifth day awaiting evacuation from this ruined city, as Bush administration officials blamed state and local authorities for what leaders at all levels have called a failure of the country's emergency management.

Ok- so I can understand that yes, state officials should have emergency plans. But for AT LEAST four days, it's been apparent that those plans fell through- due to the to sheer scale of what happened, incompetence, lack of equipement, whatever. I can not believe that rather than going out there and actually getting a good grip on the evactuation of NO and the care of all the hurricane victims, Bush & Co are laying blame. This saddens and sickens me.
(article is here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html )

lyra (lyra), Sunday, 4 September 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/02.html - shepard smith going crazy on hannity...dunno if this was posted already upthread

even fox reporters are affected!!@

Vichitravirya XI (Vichitravirya XI), Sunday, 4 September 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

Ok- so I can understand that yes, state officials should have emergency plans. But for AT LEAST four days, it's been apparent that those plans fell through

Also, I can't remember where I read it today (possibly here) but Bush declared Katrina a federal disaster last Sunday which means that it's officially been the federal government's responsibility since then.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Sunday, 4 September 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

Insurgency?! What the fuck!?

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Sunday, 4 September 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)

Chertoff: Katrina Scenario Did Not Exist

k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 4 September 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

"holocaust never happened"

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 4 September 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

"Category 5 Hurricane Determined To Strike On The Gulf Coast"

k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 4 September 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

note that CNN is actually calling him on his shit in the article.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

Re: Chertoff.... that is absolute BULLSHIT! It blows my mind that he would make such a bald assertion that everyone knows is untrue!

badgerminor (badgerminor), Sunday, 4 September 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

cant help thinking that kanye was OTM in his observations.

okokok, Sunday, 4 September 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

It blows my mind that he would make such a bald assertion that everyone knows is untrue!

badger, remember that this fuck was a Repub legal tool during Whitewater, and also these five words: "Swift Boat Veterans For Truth"

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

i know, i know... but it's up there with declaring the earth is flat in my opinion. Every time a hurricane rolls into the Gulf, the words on everyone's lips (at least in south Louisiana) is, "This could be the one that destroys New Orleans." FEMA has known about this potential scenario for many years.

Hardly anyone on the Gulf Coast will believe Chertoff. It seems like political suicide to make such an absurdly false claim when the media can smell the blood in the water. The man's career should be permanently destroyed for that statement alone.

badgerminor (badgerminor), Sunday, 4 September 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

Brendan Loy, who has been doing yeoman's work via his blog this past week, rips into Brown.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 September 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

the pres of jefferson parish on meet the press was devastating, the first time I've cried during all this.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 4 September 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

No link to back it up, but I'm hearing that the Jefferson Pariah Pres (Aaron Broussard) is saying that FEMA and the National Guard cut the emergency communication lines that the local agencies were using…

carson dial (carson dial), Sunday, 4 September 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

yes, that's what he said on meet the press, that they put armed guards in to prevent the feds from cutting the lines.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 4 September 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Bastards! Okay, this is now virtually genocide.

Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Sunday, 4 September 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

this is the best kos diary on the meet the press bit:
http://dailykos.com/story/2005/9/4/105148/3626

no video yet that I can find. I would definitely argue with the comments on that diary about Russert, I thought he was very sympathetic and angry but kept a calm face. Asking Barbour about the casinos--I took this as more of a line of questioning about economic stuff/insurance issues, possibly a way to 'get' Barbour on those issues. I'm predisposed to like Russert though, he's a lawyer and I admire the discipline this background brings to his questioning of guests.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 4 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Transcript for MTP

carson dial (carson dial), Sunday, 4 September 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

God, even that Meet the Press transcript is frustrating. It's nice to see that the coverage elsewhere in the world stays focused on the real issue, plain and simple: this is the richest country in the world and people could not be bothered to deal with the problems with the levees beforehand and the emergency response after it happened was a goddamn joke.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 4 September 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

here's the video:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/04.html#a4783

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 4 September 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

until three or four days ago i wasn't aware of grover norquist. now he's one of my least favourite people in the fucking world.

funny how things work out, innit?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 4 September 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

That Crooks And Liars site is very good.

If this were Japan, these officials might have the decency to commit hari-kari.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 4 September 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

Mary Landrieu (regarding the evacuation of the prison in New Orleans and the sheriffs and whatnot swimming through the water with handcuffs in their teeth to collect and lead the prisoners to that highway overpass): "If one person criticises them (the Sheriffs on how they handled the operation) or says one more thing including the President of the U.S., he will be hearing from me. One more word about it after this show airs and I might likely punch him, literally."

Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Sunday, 4 September 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Forgive my ignorance with the U.S. system - but is there any political mechanism in place to remove a president guilty of gross incompetence and/or dismal voter approval? Something like a non-confidence vote or anything?

Has anyone seen recent approval rating numbers?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 4 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Disapproval was in the mid 50s a couple days ago, but I haven't seen more recent numbers. Im sure that's shifted a bit.

Sadly once we foisted Bush on the rest of the world last November, it was for another 4 years. He can be impeached, but I'd highly doubt the Republicans (who control every single branch of government now) would do that.

Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Sunday, 4 September 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Fuck.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 4 September 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

Where was that quote from, Ian?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 4 September 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

I'm looking forward to seeing the Department of Homeland Security punished with a dramatic increase in funding and a stern tongue-lashing.

Evanston Wade (EWW), Sunday, 4 September 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Jefferson Parish President, Aaron Broussard on MTP this morning, the video of this was heartbreaking.

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 4 September 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Johnny Dupree, mayor of Hattiesburg MS, on CNN: [facetiously] "Who's FEMA?"

Andy_K (Andy_K), Sunday, 4 September 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/News/2005/09/04/1201547-sun.html
"If the CIA slips me something and next week you don't see me, you'll all know what happened."- Mayor Ray Nagin

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Sunday, 4 September 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, a U.S. senator really just said that she was going to punch Bush?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 4 September 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

as billmon points out here, even bushco can be efficient when there's political advantage to be gained from it.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 4 September 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Dutch viewer Frank Tiggelaar writes:

There was a striking dicrepancy between the CNN International report on the Bush visit to the New Orleans disaster zone, yesterday, and reports of the same event by German TV.

ZDF News reported that the president's visit was a completely staged event. Their crew witnessed how the open air food distribution point Bush visited in front of the cameras was torn down immediately after the president and the herd of 'news people' had left and that others which were allegedly being set up were abandoned at the same time.

The people in the area were once again left to fend for themselves, said ZDF.

here's the ZDF.de site. Can somebody look around in this? It's all in German. Colin? Ally?

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 September 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050904/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/katrina_washington

President Bush and first lady Laura Bush visited the Red Cross' disaster operation center, where they thanked employees. The president also announced that the White House would hold a blood drive on Friday.

"The world saw this tidal wave of disaster ascend upon the Gulf Coast," said Bush, who plans to return to the region Monday. "Now they can see a tidal wave of compassion."

gear (gear), Sunday, 4 September 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah!!!!! ExTrEmE cOmPaSsIoN!!! ::surge::

pr00de descending a staircase (pr00de), Sunday, 4 September 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)


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