mass shootings, protests against police brutality, hurricane disasters - - - basically anything calamitous that comes along is an invitation for him to say a spree of incredibly stupid things on Twitter, complaining about how the media keeps focusing on these negative things while he's making america great again without fanfare. iow exactly the same as the election but one has to imagine it might play SLIGHTLY differently coming from a sitting president who people expect to be solving the problems. dunno though.
― dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Monday, 21 November 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
he'll make some dumb comment about how a vigilant gunholder could've saved the day and that will be that unti the next mass shooting. mass shootings occur regardless of what the president says as we've learned
I'm more concerned about what terrorist attack or mass shooting w/ an Islamist shooter will provoke from him
― marcos, Monday, 21 November 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link
fallows is okay with mattis as defense secretary fwiw https://twitter.com/JamesFallows/status/800737961943953408
take yr comforts where you can find em i guess
― 龜, Monday, 21 November 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link
that politico piece about PA voters made it pretty clear Trump's on the clock. Batter up, Donnie
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 November 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link
I think him taking credit for the Ford plant not moving to Mexico is a good preview of how his presidency is going to go
I really cannot imagine a scenario which doesn't result in him having historically low approval ratings - Dems are absolutely not going to turn around on this guy, and I can't imagine conservatives giving him too many chances, he's already blowing his political capital by hiring some of the absolute dumbest people he can find. He promised too much and insulted too many and has thus far shown zero indication that he's up for the job. I mean already he's talking about living part time at Trump Tower which is so fucking dumb. I predict that the honeymoon is gonna be over real quick.
― frogbs, Monday, 21 November 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
Mattis has a good reputation with the ForeignPolicy.com crowd AFAIK.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 21 November 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
tbh I don't get the stuff that pops up occasionally now among liberals that's already anointing Trump as teflon and everything he says or does will be greeted with a yawn and/or support.
Hillary is going to clear the popular vote by almost 2 million with terrible unfavorables and would be the President if not for James Comey - be afraid of what the GOP can do with all three branches of government but why start acting like public opinion is lost and people are primed to follow Trump into the abyss?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 21 November 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link
would be the President if not for James Comey
KEEP A-GOIN'
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 November 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link
During congratulatory phone call, Trump asks Argentine president to expedite permits on some building projects: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1958082-revelan-que-trump-le-pidio-permiso-a-macri-para-hacer-una-torre
(NB I am relying on TPM's characterization and the rather clunky Google Translate version of this article)
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Monday, 21 November 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
man sure glad we spent weeks gauging Clinton's potential conflicts of interest when Trump's were so much more blatant and widespread, especially since we know he's not gonna make a good faith effort to resolve any of it
― frogbs, Monday, 21 November 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link
lol @ us learning about all this in foreign papers
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 21 November 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/138888/no-bernie-sanders-didnt-ask-supporters-ditch-identity-politics
looking forward to more bad-faith engagements with this sort of stuff for the next...forever
― k3vin k., Monday, 21 November 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
Trump is meeting with that congresswoman from hawaii who was on the bernie train early on... good luck with that bipartisanship don
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link
She is a Republican darling anyway, tbh.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link
This was from July:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/25/the-bernie-endorsing-congresswoman-who-trump-fans-can-love.html
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link
i imagine this election has discouraged a lot of great people from ever entering politics, let alone running for president
― flappy bird, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link
I imagine this election has encouraged a lot of great people to enter local politics with no intention of ever moving beyond that point.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link
What was Dubya's lowest approval number? If Bob Altemeyer is right, Nixon's never sunk below 19%, even the day he flew away from the Rose Garden.
In other words, any possible outcome will never drop him before that floor of 1/5th min support.
― (rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link
Below, not before
Didn't know those things about Tulsi Gabbard. Sad.
― Treeship, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link
I heard anti-Gabbard rumblings among Bernie supporters during the primary.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link
whoa it just hit me, Donald Trump will be the President
― rip van wanko, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Monday, November 21, 2016 1:17 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm... i was really enthusiastic about our green party candidate for Mayor, and he got an impressive amount of the vote (22,000 to the winner's 128,000).
― flappy bird, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link
i imagine this election has discouraged a lot of great people from ever entering politics, let alone running for president― flappy bird, Monday, November 21, 2016 6:14 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flappy bird, Monday, November 21, 2016 6:14 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
while also encouraging world record holding narcissists to run like kanye
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link
Donald, Imma let you finish, but Grover Cleveland was the best president of all time. OF ALL TIME!
― marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
I actually think this election will lead to a huge number of people considering running for office as democrats with an eye to moving beyond local. I predict a candidate "baby boom" of sorts.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/307063-fec-hits-trump-on-1100-campaign-errors-worth-13m
― 龜, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/B34TOIa.png
the last time white women voted for a democrat was 1996
― 龜, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link
that bad boy charm
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link
yeah uh what's up with that?
― flappy bird, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link
seriously- why???
Graph strongly suggests it helps if you kill a Democratic president.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link
some analysis here http://fusion.net/story/370440/white-women-racism-donald-trump/
― 龜, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link
xp - for the same reasons white men generally vote Republican?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link
I asked the question on the pre-election thread. I haven't read anything convincing.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:18 (seven years ago) link
Rs are the Daddy party.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link
I don't know why anyone is surprised anymore when white people do stupid and unexplainable things.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link
It's kind of our thing.
restrict my rights, daddy
― ¶ (DJP), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link
I don't see it as particularly unexplainable? Stupid, sure, but logical. White women are subject to the same cultural forces that push white men toward the GOP - religious fundamentalism, rural cultural isolation, various fears of other people.
I don't know the polling on it but even on 'women's issues' it's not like there's a shortage of anti-choice women or women eager to blame or ignore victims of sexual assault.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link
at least thru '60s most women felt obligated to follow their husbands' lead; not an apparent big change perhaps, aside from less universal coupling
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link
When Patricia Arquette caused the mini-uproar at the Oscars (gay men and people of color need to start supporting women, etc.), a friend just refused to believe there was any reason that was controversial. As a progressive white woman who associated with other progressive women socially and politically, she had zero idea of the levels of opposition to marriage equality and anti-racism among women/white women.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/3W0SuSJ.jpg
― 龜, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link
there's been a lot of finger-pointing by men of all races at "white women" over the past couple of months and i always find it a bit uncomfortable, even if i get what they're saying
― k3vin k., Monday, 21 November 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link
well, yeah
― sarahell, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link
http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/4255c2daf3ec43aaac959b43864b3e98/an-aryan-type-mother-with-her-two-children-in-a-poster-which-urges-g39jhf.jpg
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Monday, November 21, 2016 11:21 AM (nineteen minutes ago)
see also: that thing white ppl do when they disparage white ppl
― sarahell, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link
sympathy level for white people feeling uncomfortable that people are pointing out that the majority of them who participated in this election voted for white supremacy is currently hovering at zero
― ¶ (DJP), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:51 (seven years ago) link
yeah that's not what i was saying. men singling women out implicitly because they should have "known better" or whatever is kind of nagl imo
― k3vin k., Monday, 21 November 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
i feel like it's another way for white people who are used to being the center of attention to remain the center of attention.
― sarahell, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link