what trump will mean for workers' rights:
http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/19639/think_its_tough_for_labor_now_just_wait_until_trump_takes_office_in_january
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 19 November 2016 10:34 (seven years ago) link
The Hamilton guy read a statement to Pence after the musical and Pence was still there. It's om their Facebook page.
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:03 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/HamiltonMusical/status/799828567941120000?lang=en
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:11 (seven years ago) link
Alex Q. Arbuckle@alexqarbuckleMike Pence getting booed at Hamilton is the worst thing to ever happen to a politician at a play
[...]
Alex Q. Arbuckle @alexqarbucklePlease stop tweeting at me about Abraham Lincoln. I don't know who that is and I don't care
― Frederik B, Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link
Some of you may think the equity markets demonstrate the 1% are content with the election results. The bond markets are many times larger, its participants generally smarter.
Global Bonds Post Biggest Two-Week Loss in Quarter Century
― Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799972624713420804
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799974635274194947
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link
Omg lol
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link
so much for the pivot to the center
― 龜, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link
"Apologize, Hamilton! I demand you apologize! And if you have an extra pair of tickets, I'll pay face. But first ... apologize!!!"
http://katherineclark.house.gov/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=FE5B2F16-7591-41DC-9846-25FEA4D1CFA1
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link
(Sorry, that link is not Hamilton related, it's a bill proposed to no longer exempt president and VP from conflict of interest.)
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link
So has the Tyrant in Chief elect been heard from publicly since he was elected? Hope he's getting his vitamin D.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link
if that was harassment, he's gonna have a long six months
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link
what do you guys think of trump having candidates for cabinet positions meet him at the tower, where they have to push past camera crews and ride a gold elevator to the 58th floor? sort of like the apprentice. pretty coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllll
― Treeship, Saturday, 19 November 2016 15:38 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2m5qgfPzws
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link
Ethan Lawrence @EthanDLawrence 2h@realDonaldTrump TRIGGERED! SOMEONE FIND A SAFE SPACE FOR THE SNOWFLAKE!
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Saturday, 19 November 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link
omg FUCK THESE FUCKING FUCKERSi keep vacillating between paranoia and anger and fury and disbelief and hysterical laughterbut then i remember that things go in cycles that need fixing, way that donnie trump is just amping like nixonbut cotdamm this shit is making me jumpy
(nice find scott)
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 19 November 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link
i'm having a hard time turning my focus away from this shit and toward the things i want to accomplish in my personal life, which range in seriousness from finishing this health insurance application to finding a new career
― Treeship, Saturday, 19 November 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link
Just thinking that things act on precedents and the parameter shifts current activity may allow are horifying.Also that human rights fought for for decades aren't static. & the idea of alt-right nominations for national security at a time when there's still need for Black Lives Matter protest can only lead to negative places.
If human rights for those that need them reinforced are deemed negligible are the next 4 years going to be filled with Cointelpro like attempts to undermine protest?
― Stevolende, Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
Has the Bannon Hollywood Reporter article been discussed?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747
― timellison, Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
right. healthcare.
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link
IUD bookings up 900% from October:
http://www.vocativ.com/376404/iuds-reproductive-rights-trump-pence/
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link
The juxtaposition with the collapse in gun sales is ...not funny
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link
are the next 4 years going to be filled with Cointelpro like attempts to undermine protest?
yes
― j., Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link
Maybe trump can get sharpton to help out
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/bostonsboy87/status/800024575551696896
― j., Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link
Wow. Maybe he should have told the guy earlier not to wear the t-shirts and talk about politics.
Bannon in that Hollywood Reporter insane article, which was discussed upthread, never did address how he rationalizes Trump's tax plans as being populist. He doesn't mention them at all.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link
haha oh man beautiful.
http://wkrg.com/2016/11/18/make-america-great-again-billboard-features-bloody-sunday-in-mississippi/
― cucky ramen-o (will), Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
^these dudes are getting a nice fat fucking check from me this year.
― cucky ramen-o (will), Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
white people in mississippi are still gonna think it's an official Trump ad though. probably brings a smile to their face as they drive by.
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link
Drank way too much last night & ended up of course in a huge circular discussion abou US politics. My guests - bless em - had to endure me basically interrogating them about their perceptions. 2 white guys fwiw (British & Canadian, I'm a Canadian white guy myself). It fascinated me that they in principle supported Trump over Clinton precisely because he was 100% untrustworthy "so at least you know where you stand - with her you don't know if you can trust her or not!" In terms of results orientation this makes absolutely no sense - you'd rather know you're throwing your bet away with no chance of winning than to take a gamble on a perceived random outcome with some chance of success? - but in their mindset, the honest liar is preferable to the potentially dishonest person who claims to be telling the truth. Bizarre. Parsing it further, they acknowledged that with Clinton you'd get "more of the same" whereas with Trump, outcomes were unclear... and this was also a selling point! They preferred perfect certainty of a known crook with an unpredictable outcome over someone who was unpredictably crooked but who would produce a predictable outcome. This topsy-turvy-world thinking is what got him elected. Heaven help us all.
― hardcore dilettante, Saturday, 19 November 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link
Pricks.
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 19 November 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link
So this basically
http://www.marxisthumanistinitiative.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Trump-wolf-and-sheep.jpg
― frogbs, Saturday, 19 November 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
^OTMFM
― hardcore dilettante, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link
"Sheeple" is what I call people like that, it's actually a word I made up
― sleepingbag, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link
It's the egotism of it I think - ha, smart guy me, I know what's going on, I'm not gonna be fooled by how one of them is a politician and the other one is a racist politician that rapes people
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours agoI settled the Trump University lawsuit for a small fraction of the potential award because as President I have to focus on our country.
This is an interesting attempt at saving face, insisting that he actually got off easy compared to what he might have had to pay. It's like he's more worried about being perceived as a loser over having settled a lawsuit than he is about being perceived as a fraudster and swindler.
― jmm, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link
The Hamilton "Apologize!" tweet horrified me at first, then I realized it was a cunning political move to bury the Trump University settlement, which was already dumped on a Friday afternoon. The tweet itself is perfectly formulated for max outrage- hypocrisy of "safe spaces," harassment, elementary school level language, threatening freedom of expression.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:25 (seven years ago) link
I really don't think anything Trump does is 'cunning'. Even now, nothing he has done seems particularly smart. The great masterstroke of the campaign was to confiscate his iPhone for the last two weeks...
― Frederik B, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link
The man who publically and repeatedly abused and disrespected a Gold Star family just a couple of months ago is shocked that his VP-elect was not given the full measure of respect he thought he deserved. Yup.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link
His hypocrisy is perfectly consistent - when he does something, its ok. When someone else does something, its wrong. Principles dont come into it.
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link
He literally can't think about anything besides himself. It's almost impressive.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link
JUst wondering how widely what is seen to be acceptable when he gets away with it feeds into the next attempted outrage and if it is going to continually mark out wider territory. & if it's gotten away with now to the extent it is, if taht will show in time to come that you can get away with this much, so why not try to get away with more.Scary shit.& the whole idea of a 'norm' as something that is fixed not an archetype that things are based around in a shifting field.So the idea that something thought of as normal is in any way concrete is false.Beacons become normative and you don't want Trump a person apparently without morals to be seen as a normative beacon.
But wonder how much elasticity there si in how far things can be stretched and what happens when the limits of that elasticity are transcended.
I'm also just thinking that a lot of marginalised people are just arriving at a point of apparent liberty that has taken them ages to get to and that there is going to be a concerted effort to roll back the rights that have been so hard fought for. Also just wondering if that is possible. & hoping that the limits of power are reached before anything can be lastingly undone.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link
I honestly barely consider him a human being, like he just seems like a zombie incapable of shame or self-reflection. because of that, I find it hard to feel anger towards him on a personal level. how mad can you be at someone w/ a genuine mental disorder?
but the people around him - his extended family, the leftover garbage politicians who are going to make up his admin, even mike pence - these people are still humans and I feel like they all know deep down that they're participating in something deeply wrong.
― iatee, Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link
would need gbx to back me up on this but he seems textbook NPD to me
― k3vin k., Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, his family all made the decision a long time ago to put up with him and stand by him for the money. At least one of his kids didn't even talk to him when he was bankrupt, right? Pence saw a way to get out of his failing governorship in Indiana, where he is reviled. They all know exactly what they're doing.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link
I mean if trump isn't textbook narcissistic personality disorder then...who would be?
and now someone who already doesn't have a soul because he's been sucked into a narcissistic black hole is *literally the most important human being in the world*. things can only get worse!
― iatee, Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link
Oh, smart place to spend time and money organizing: For the governor post in Indinana. Or is it out of reach?
― Frederik B, Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
Dems should compete everywhere imo
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link
should? sure. but all the dems have right now in red states is motivation.
within two years I think the dems might have the ability to win races in places we could never dream of. trump admin is gonna be a disaster on a level not comparable to anything in recent history.
― iatee, Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link
Seems likely yes
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link