my partner, who teaches art in NYC schools through support programs, is telling me that administrations and teachers are openly freaking the fuck out at the possibility of Trump trying to shut down the dept of education. meanwhile, kids are sensing the madness and acting out; she's seen multiple fist fights in classes. sounds dire in classrooms right now. any other teachers want to weigh in? Abbs?
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:16 (seven years ago) link
it's been mentioned before, but that remnick/nyer articler is something else. this quote alone:
“In ’08, they saw me coming, but I was a guy named Barack Hussein Obama coming up against the Clinton machine, so no way! So they weren’t focussed on me, and I established a connection. Then came the stuff: Ayers and Reverend Wright and all the rest. What I’m suggesting is that the lens through which people understand politics and politicians is extraordinarily powerful. And Trump understands the new ecosystem, in which facts and truth don’t matter. You attract attention, rouse emotions, and then move on. You can surf those emotions. I’ve said it before, but if I watched Fox I wouldn’t vote for me!”
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:22 (seven years ago) link
also, this is maybe where I think I might be able to be useful doing immediate volunteer work with computer classes and tutoring ESOL. Anybody supported Make the Road in the past? My experience with people engaging with them has been positive.http://www.maketheroad.org/participate_jobs.php
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:25 (seven years ago) link
there are these heartbreaking moments of realism, things you knew everyone was thinking but wondered if he thought himself. and then, alongside it, stuff like
"Obama’s final appearance, on the eve of Election Day, was at an outdoor rally next to Independence Hall, in Philadelphia, alongside Jon Bon Jovi, Bruce Springsteen, and the Clintons.", switchbacks into the fugue state
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:26 (seven years ago) link
way down the list i'd like us to retire "leader of the free world"
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:53 (seven years ago) link
Texas Republicans filed a bill to force educators to narc on LGBTQ kids to their parents. Pretty much ready to just start burning shit down.
I do wonder what the backlash to Christian Coalition 2: Electric Boogaloo might look like, I feel like a lot of people got used to the progress that had seemingly been made since 2008 unless they lived in a pit like Indiana (and even then there was a DOJ fighting some of the worst of it).
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:55 (seven years ago) link
Nation link courtesy of a 72-year-old friend, from 2004 but still inspiring:
Looking at this catalogue of huge surprises, it’s clear that the struggle for justice should never be abandoned because of the apparent overwhelming power of those who have the guns and the money and who seem invincible in their determination to hold on to it. That apparent power has, again and again, proved vulnerable to human qualities less measurable than bombs and dollars: moral fervor, determination, unity, organization, sacrifice, wit, ingenuity, courage, patience–whether by blacks in Alabama and South Africa, peasants in El Salvador, Nicaragua and Vietnam, or workers and intellectuals in Poland, Hungary and the Soviet Union itself. No cold calculation of the balance of power need deter people who are persuaded that their cause is just.
https://www.thenation.com/article/optimism-uncertainty/
― sleeve, Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:56 (seven years ago) link
as far as pence getting booed at Hamilton, it just makes me sad
wtf??!??!
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 November 2016 08:10 (seven years ago) link
@jeremyscahillLook folks, he's the Vice President and deserves the respect of all the gay people and Muslims and women he despises. We are America!
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2016 08:31 (seven years ago) link
There is not nearly enough booing in that clip -- way, way too much cheering.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 19 November 2016 08:54 (seven years ago) link
far too few buckets of urine being dumped on his head
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 19 November 2016 08:56 (seven years ago) link
what trump will mean for workers' rights:
http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/19639/think_its_tough_for_labor_now_just_wait_until_trump_takes_office_in_january
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 19 November 2016 10:34 (seven years ago) link
The Hamilton guy read a statement to Pence after the musical and Pence was still there. It's om their Facebook page.
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:03 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/HamiltonMusical/status/799828567941120000?lang=en
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:11 (seven years ago) link
Alex Q. Arbuckle@alexqarbuckleMike Pence getting booed at Hamilton is the worst thing to ever happen to a politician at a play
[...]
Alex Q. Arbuckle @alexqarbucklePlease stop tweeting at me about Abraham Lincoln. I don't know who that is and I don't care
― Frederik B, Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link
Some of you may think the equity markets demonstrate the 1% are content with the election results. The bond markets are many times larger, its participants generally smarter.
Global Bonds Post Biggest Two-Week Loss in Quarter Century
― Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799972624713420804
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799974635274194947
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link
Omg lol
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link
so much for the pivot to the center
― 龜, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link
"Apologize, Hamilton! I demand you apologize! And if you have an extra pair of tickets, I'll pay face. But first ... apologize!!!"
http://katherineclark.house.gov/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=FE5B2F16-7591-41DC-9846-25FEA4D1CFA1
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link
(Sorry, that link is not Hamilton related, it's a bill proposed to no longer exempt president and VP from conflict of interest.)
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link
So has the Tyrant in Chief elect been heard from publicly since he was elected? Hope he's getting his vitamin D.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link
if that was harassment, he's gonna have a long six months
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link
what do you guys think of trump having candidates for cabinet positions meet him at the tower, where they have to push past camera crews and ride a gold elevator to the 58th floor? sort of like the apprentice. pretty coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllll
― Treeship, Saturday, 19 November 2016 15:38 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2m5qgfPzws
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link
Ethan Lawrence @EthanDLawrence 2h@realDonaldTrump TRIGGERED! SOMEONE FIND A SAFE SPACE FOR THE SNOWFLAKE!
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Saturday, 19 November 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link
omg FUCK THESE FUCKING FUCKERSi keep vacillating between paranoia and anger and fury and disbelief and hysterical laughterbut then i remember that things go in cycles that need fixing, way that donnie trump is just amping like nixonbut cotdamm this shit is making me jumpy
(nice find scott)
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 19 November 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link
i'm having a hard time turning my focus away from this shit and toward the things i want to accomplish in my personal life, which range in seriousness from finishing this health insurance application to finding a new career
― Treeship, Saturday, 19 November 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link
Just thinking that things act on precedents and the parameter shifts current activity may allow are horifying.Also that human rights fought for for decades aren't static. & the idea of alt-right nominations for national security at a time when there's still need for Black Lives Matter protest can only lead to negative places.
If human rights for those that need them reinforced are deemed negligible are the next 4 years going to be filled with Cointelpro like attempts to undermine protest?
― Stevolende, Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
Has the Bannon Hollywood Reporter article been discussed?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747
― timellison, Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
right. healthcare.
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link
IUD bookings up 900% from October:
http://www.vocativ.com/376404/iuds-reproductive-rights-trump-pence/
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link
The juxtaposition with the collapse in gun sales is ...not funny
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link
are the next 4 years going to be filled with Cointelpro like attempts to undermine protest?
yes
― j., Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link
Maybe trump can get sharpton to help out
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/bostonsboy87/status/800024575551696896
― j., Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link
Wow. Maybe he should have told the guy earlier not to wear the t-shirts and talk about politics.
Bannon in that Hollywood Reporter insane article, which was discussed upthread, never did address how he rationalizes Trump's tax plans as being populist. He doesn't mention them at all.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link
haha oh man beautiful.
http://wkrg.com/2016/11/18/make-america-great-again-billboard-features-bloody-sunday-in-mississippi/
― cucky ramen-o (will), Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
^these dudes are getting a nice fat fucking check from me this year.
― cucky ramen-o (will), Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
white people in mississippi are still gonna think it's an official Trump ad though. probably brings a smile to their face as they drive by.
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link
Drank way too much last night & ended up of course in a huge circular discussion abou US politics. My guests - bless em - had to endure me basically interrogating them about their perceptions. 2 white guys fwiw (British & Canadian, I'm a Canadian white guy myself). It fascinated me that they in principle supported Trump over Clinton precisely because he was 100% untrustworthy "so at least you know where you stand - with her you don't know if you can trust her or not!" In terms of results orientation this makes absolutely no sense - you'd rather know you're throwing your bet away with no chance of winning than to take a gamble on a perceived random outcome with some chance of success? - but in their mindset, the honest liar is preferable to the potentially dishonest person who claims to be telling the truth. Bizarre. Parsing it further, they acknowledged that with Clinton you'd get "more of the same" whereas with Trump, outcomes were unclear... and this was also a selling point! They preferred perfect certainty of a known crook with an unpredictable outcome over someone who was unpredictably crooked but who would produce a predictable outcome. This topsy-turvy-world thinking is what got him elected. Heaven help us all.
― hardcore dilettante, Saturday, 19 November 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link
Pricks.
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 19 November 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link
So this basically
http://www.marxisthumanistinitiative.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Trump-wolf-and-sheep.jpg
― frogbs, Saturday, 19 November 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
^OTMFM
― hardcore dilettante, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link
"Sheeple" is what I call people like that, it's actually a word I made up
― sleepingbag, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link
It's the egotism of it I think - ha, smart guy me, I know what's going on, I'm not gonna be fooled by how one of them is a politician and the other one is a racist politician that rapes people
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours agoI settled the Trump University lawsuit for a small fraction of the potential award because as President I have to focus on our country.
This is an interesting attempt at saving face, insisting that he actually got off easy compared to what he might have had to pay. It's like he's more worried about being perceived as a loser over having settled a lawsuit than he is about being perceived as a fraudster and swindler.
― jmm, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link
The Hamilton "Apologize!" tweet horrified me at first, then I realized it was a cunning political move to bury the Trump University settlement, which was already dumped on a Friday afternoon. The tweet itself is perfectly formulated for max outrage- hypocrisy of "safe spaces," harassment, elementary school level language, threatening freedom of expression.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:25 (seven years ago) link
I really don't think anything Trump does is 'cunning'. Even now, nothing he has done seems particularly smart. The great masterstroke of the campaign was to confiscate his iPhone for the last two weeks...
― Frederik B, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link
The man who publically and repeatedly abused and disrespected a Gold Star family just a couple of months ago is shocked that his VP-elect was not given the full measure of respect he thought he deserved. Yup.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link