re: bungled - she still won the popular vote and without Comey would likely be President. Getting lost in the shuffle is that 40+% of Americans are cool with a rapist racist President no matter who the Democrats had run or how perfect a campaign.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:12 (nine years ago)
call me when they shoot christie in the brainstem
How would you tell?
― If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:14 (nine years ago)
I do kinda wonder if Putin's gonna offer to assassinate Trump's enemies for him
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:15 (nine years ago)
otherwise yeah, Hitler/Stalin refs to purges are a little melodramatic. If these guys start actually murdering their enemies let me know
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:16 (nine years ago)
christie is also going to get indicted yall
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:17 (nine years ago)
my dad just sent me and my sister a 4-page "debunking" of factcheck.org that somehow takes a detour to mention that "ACORN and many other left agencies work closely with them" (them meaning Snopes.com) and offers the sage wisdom "I know, do more than play with your so called smart phone to get facts. Actually read volumes of books as I have to see the truth."
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:22 (nine years ago)
^^^ this is why
in other news, a statement from Mayor San Jose: https://medium.com/@SamLiccardo/weve-got-your-back-4c2fdcb0b915#.6il2rhxtc
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:23 (nine years ago)
I heard google is releasing a new search engine that only gets "true" results.
Honestly, if pretty much any of the proper names involved, from Trump on down were indicted in the next few years, who would be shocked?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:23 (nine years ago)
If I print out pages of forwarded emails and bind them, does that count as a book?
― Evan, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:26 (nine years ago)
midterms traditionally tend to go poorly for the party in charge. but we are now living in perpetual Anything Can Happen Day.
wasn't Virginia Heffernan's greatest crime til that piece being an awful TV critic for the NYT? omg she got promoted to op writer.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:28 (nine years ago)
your precious Waze app won't give you directions to the truth, karl
― nomar, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:28 (nine years ago)
The Sainted Reagan still holds the record for most corrupt admin, AFAIK and horrifyingly few people ever gave a shit (including Democratic leadership since Bill).
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:29 (nine years ago)
there's gonna be epic corruption in this admin, the question is who is going to be able to prosecute it
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:30 (nine years ago)
List of men and women convicted for crimes in Reagan administration.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:30 (nine years ago)
Back to that Lapham essay, here's another excerpt from a better distillation of the idea of the provisional vs. permanent government: (plus the "ceaseless war of bureaucratic attrition" line that I love for some reason)
https://fabiusmaximus.com/2009/11/19/lapham-7/
The permanent government — * the Congress, * the civil and military services, * the media, * the legion of Washington lawyers and expensive lobbyistsoccupies the anonymous hierarchies that remain safely in place no matter what the political truths voted in and out of the White House on the trend of a season. It is this government — sly and patient and slow — that writes the briefing papers and the laws, presides over the administrative routine, remembers who bribed whom in the election of 1968 and why President Carter thought it prudent to talk privately to God about the B-1 bomber. Except in the rare moments of jointly opportune interest, the permanent government wages a ceaseless war of bureaucratic attrition against the provisional government that once every 4 or 8 years accompanies a newly elected president to Washington.
* the Congress, * the civil and military services, * the media, * the legion of Washington lawyers and expensive lobbyists
occupies the anonymous hierarchies that remain safely in place no matter what the political truths voted in and out of the White House on the trend of a season. It is this government — sly and patient and slow — that writes the briefing papers and the laws, presides over the administrative routine, remembers who bribed whom in the election of 1968 and why President Carter thought it prudent to talk privately to God about the B-1 bomber. Except in the rare moments of jointly opportune interest, the permanent government wages a ceaseless war of bureaucratic attrition against the provisional government that once every 4 or 8 years accompanies a newly elected president to Washington.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:31 (nine years ago)
is that meant to be encouraging
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:33 (nine years ago)
Latham often tried do sound like dollar edition Gore Vidal didn't he?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:34 (nine years ago)
*Lapham
I'm mostly seeing "their ideological interests have aligned" fucking us all for decades to come.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:35 (nine years ago)
KM, i'm really sorry you and your sis have to field that stuff your folks have bought into. That must be hard.
TNR piece on Obama's subtext seemed chillingly accurate. this is probably the biggest minefield an outgoing prez has had to tiptoe around.
now wait milo, the current Dem Admin certainly gave a shit about prosecuting the thieves and banksters who engineered the '08 bubb -- ohfuckit
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:35 (nine years ago)
this is your deep state america, cherish it
xp
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:36 (nine years ago)
State AGs finding heretofore questionable bases for state charges?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:38 (nine years ago)
lapham's institutions of permanent government are real but as recently as the nixon admin a president imo attempted to quietly build shadow institutions, dependent on his person, to usurp or co-opt the functions of that whole list.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:40 (nine years ago)
(That's not very recent)
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:45 (nine years ago)
i still wonder if trump winning stopped a lot of violence. bombings. race war type insanity. obviously we'll never know. could have been bad though. am i the only person who wonders that? i'm sure there were people waiting for that excuse.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:51 (nine years ago)
trump winning stopped a lot of violence that would have happened in that scenario. trump winning will also create a lot of violence, probably much, much more violence. sorry to get all miss cleo but i think it's true
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:53 (nine years ago)
you're probably right.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:54 (nine years ago)
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, November 15, 2016 1:17 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/president-trump-can-thank-paula-jones-his-legal-troubles
― 龜, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:55 (nine years ago)
ha yeah – I cited that SCOTUS decision a couple days ago upthread
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:06 (nine years ago)
this is amazing
https://vimeo.com/190738676
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:10 (nine years ago)
can we find a way to drag Pence repeatedly into court though?
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:11 (nine years ago)
https://twitter.com/Abid_ism/status/798568643009318912
hehe
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:12 (nine years ago)
I can't stop thinking about this actual, totally real campaign ad that belongs in the "Things that just have to be Tim & Eric sketches" thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5kfC_VCXeQ
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:13 (nine years ago)
obviously we don't want Pence president either, we just want the administration crippled/unable to act
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:15 (nine years ago)
yeah, agreed on that, whatever works
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:21 (nine years ago)
yeah just wait until an unarmed black man gets shot by the cops and blm protests it.. can see that escalating quickly
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:30 (nine years ago)
I hope this is good news and not someone even shittier getting the post. who am I kidding thats probably exactly whats happening.
In a surprise development, former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani appeared to take himself out of the running for attorney general.
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:39 (nine years ago)
yeah but the rumor now is that AG could be Kris Kobach
― goole, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:40 (nine years ago)
dem senators think they have an opening against bannon, looks like
https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/798611435416854528
idg why Giuliani would prefer Sec of State tbh. Sitting through complex negotiations doesn't really seem to be a thing he's interested in.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:41 (nine years ago)
In a surprising decision, Donald Trump has tapped Ann Coulter as his personal choice for attorney general, with the backing up key members of his inner circle.
― nomar, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:41 (nine years ago)
I've been expecting way more ''old cronies from back home in the crooked real estate game'' types tbh. Would be totally sensible for Trump to pick an AG who's the equivalent of Harriet Miers. A loyalist, not necessarily a name we've ever heard of, specifically to shield himself from whatever's coming at the office legally.
― dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:43 (nine years ago)
http://www.vox.com/polyarchy/2016/11/15/13637936/anti-semitic-propaganda
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:46 (nine years ago)
is there a different thread where we've been covering Zuckerberg's non-apologies for Facebook's outsized influence on the election & the pile on of angry rejoinders?
http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/11/donald-trump-won-because-of-facebook.htmlhttps://www.wired.com/2016/11/facebook-alone-didnt-create-trump-click-economy/https://shift.newco.co/im-sorry-mr-zuckerberg-but-you-are-wrong-65dbf8513424#.eqs30faco
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:47 (nine years ago)
nomar, you stop that.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:49 (nine years ago)
I'm half-convinced that he's going to start recruiting death row inmates for cabinet positions at this point.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:50 (nine years ago)
Trump will pardon the cops before there can be an investigation, and he'll spike in popularity.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:53 (nine years ago)
is that after all the patriot gun squads have come out and shot up the town or before
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:00 (nine years ago)
Have we posted this yet?
DNC Aiming To Reconnect With Working-Class Americans With New ‘Hamilton’-Inspired Lena Dunham Web Series
― (rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:20 (nine years ago)
https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/election/what-are-we-trying-to-figure-out
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:21 (nine years ago)