at least not yet! I hated how BSG established a bunch of stuff (cylons can't reproduce, etc.) and then just violated them willy nilly. internal consistency is *kinda* important...
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link
yeah if we find out that the intelligence level doesn't top out at 20 but at 21, I am out!
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link
The stuff with Maeve and the two techs, all I could think about was rolling up D&D characters.
― aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link
Thandiebot was pretty good at understanding 2216 tech for someone programmed to think they grew up in the 19th century
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link
the x-y skills grid was very similar to some of the aptitude test visualizations I've seen
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link
well i did finish this ep, my ill will pushed back down below the 'won't watch again' line i guess
rly feel like there needs to be some character with some humor or cynicism or idk un-ponderous attitude to what's going on. no gallows humor anywhere? a huge entertainment conglomerate running a valley full of fuckbots and rich people larping? how is this not hilarious? everyone is in the same spooky register as the confused and unhappy robots. i don't buy it! the two surgical techs at least were at least kind of gross but they've been swept up in the ~mystery~ now too
the scene between wright, hopkins and the secret robot family struck me as the real worst. wright was given nothing human to say. "i find this troubling" MY FRIEND YOU NEED SOME COUCH TIME THIS IS TEXTBOOK DISTURBED. "these robots are safe" BUDDY YOUR DADBOT JUST ATTACKED ME AND DIDN'T RESPOND etc
and why wasn't harris more psyched in that soldier camp sequence -- the 'wyatt' plotline and teddy going ham are genuinely new content, right? that has to be exciting after decades of this shit. new dlc man!
― goole, Wednesday, 9 November 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link
the English writer is probably meant to be the "funny" character
― Number None, Wednesday, 9 November 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link
you've gotta bring your own humor to this one, folks
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 9 November 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link
Westworld, from the mind of Dr. West, noted robofuckologist, has created the ultimate theme park for aspiring robot fuckers
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 9 November 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link
(what it says about me idk but) i can't get over what isn't there. there's no demonstration of the JOY of escapism, either of having access to a simulated world with so much technical genius put into it, or of being able to take part in an archetypical american adventure story. there's no disney element, no jurassic park. are all these people paying to enter... an hbo series?
― goole, Wednesday, 9 November 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link
the family with a kid who encountered the littlest robot seemed to be having fun on the trail
the people just screwing around in town (figuratively and literally) seem to be having fun, along with the guy who just randomly shot the leader of the pillaging gang and saved the day
the main focus seems to be on the newer story which is about self-discovery and self-actualization. that whole track seems less about disney-style theme park times and more of an interactive sitting in a yurt experience
of course, the guy crafting this has his own self-discovery cabin built by his shady, dead partner that is inhabited by... his own family, as they were when he was a kid. it seems like it's built to goad Hopkins' character into letting loose some sort of inner demons
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 9 November 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link
along with the guy who just randomly shot the leader of the pillaging gang and saved the day
ha i was going to mention this guy. yeah he seemed to be enjoying himself.
― goole, Wednesday, 9 November 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
I have some of the same quibble - that you're like one third of the way into the first episode when OMG THINGS ARE GOING ASTRAY. The viewer barely gets a chance to see the steady state, so the impact of ASTRAY is minimized.
But as I said this is pretty normal with this type of entertainment; Jurassic Park movies did the same shit. You're just on the cusp of grasping why it's an interesting park when things start to unravel.
― marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 9 November 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link
Jurassic Park didn't even get to open :(
― Number None, Wednesday, 9 November 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link
but when the pirates of the carribean breaks down... the pirates don't fuck the people
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 9 November 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link
I was a little disappointed by the latest episode.I can't tell why exactly but most of the storylines weren't very interesting to me.And as El Tomboto said upthread, the two guys not being able to deal with Maeve is pretty silly as they're supposed to be able to... control her (which they do when she asks them) !I didn't really understand the leverage she had over them in the negotiation, though.the MIB/Wyatt part was just a useless big gunfight. ok.the Elsie/Theresa/Bernard/conspiracy thing is important, I guess.the hidden hosts family/dog thing is also important, I suppose.oh, and yeah, the writer dickhead is really bad !also, nothing about Dolores in this one.
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 10 November 2016 11:27 (seven years ago) link
(maybe there should be a spoiler alert in the title of the thread !)
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 10 November 2016 11:28 (seven years ago) link
westworld? more like WORSTworld, amirite
― mh 😏, Thursday, 10 November 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link
Vestworld: where Anthony Hopkins is never not wearing a vest
― marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/jfreewright/status/797253311854444544
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 12 November 2016 01:51 (seven years ago) link
lmao
― lag∞n, Saturday, 12 November 2016 05:24 (seven years ago) link
lol if you thought Simon Quarterman's crappy writer was bad just wait till you see Tessa Thompson's mean girl
― El Tomboto, Monday, 14 November 2016 02:38 (seven years ago) link
ok for real how many times has "Bernard" gotten "fired" though
― El Tomboto, Monday, 14 November 2016 03:17 (seven years ago) link
the board knows what this place is for
btw we can have a meeting now it's fine
― mh 😏, Monday, 14 November 2016 03:19 (seven years ago) link
god that last scene was soooo tedious and drawn-out, doesn't bode well for further attempts at that sort of thing
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 14 November 2016 04:24 (seven years ago) link
I thought it was some of the best acting Jeffrey Wright's gotten to do so far! And Anthony Hopkins being horrifying. It was certainly more fun than that confederates & ghost nation nonsense.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 14 November 2016 04:33 (seven years ago) link
it's fun following along at home and ending every one of hopkins' lines with "clariiiiissssse"
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 14 November 2016 05:04 (seven years ago) link
my god this show is bad, what a spectacle
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2016 06:13 (seven years ago) link
the sexy young executive, the most obvious reveal ever
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2016 06:14 (seven years ago) link
at least bernard being a bot excuses his terrible dead child storyline
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2016 06:15 (seven years ago) link
I GUESS
You have to check for hopkins' storyline tropes to find the bots
― tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 November 2016 06:56 (seven years ago) link
And escape (watching) westworld
― tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 November 2016 06:57 (seven years ago) link
Game of Thrones credit sequence: mechanical mapworld comes into being before your eyes.
Vinyl credit sequence: an LP comes liquidly into being before your eyes.
Westworld credit sequence: various biobots come liquidly into being before your eyes.
The Crown credit sequence: molten metal liquidly becomes a crown before your eyes.
I think we've found the MMteens' dominant visual cliché. It's the new teal & orange.
― marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 14 November 2016 13:51 (seven years ago) link
i like the credit sequence. it's not about the 3D printing eye candy, it's about the piano. when the bot fingers first touch the piano it represents the hosts impersonating culture and speech and creativity. it's music that already existed (like a narrative/storyline in the park), and now they're reproducing it. then there's that shot where it reveals that it's a player piano, and then bot hands lift off the keyboard slowly while it continues playing, followed by the shot of the player piano roll. that's alluding to the growing sentience of the hosts, the knowledge of what's under the hood and their true roles in the theme park: the music is already written and will be played regardless, they're just window dressing to make it seem more "real", etc etc
i guess all of that is obvious but i still think it makes for a more interesting credit sequence then, say, house of cards
― Karl Malone, Monday, 14 November 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link
despite all that i'm really starting to dread watching this show. everyone around me loves it and were blown away by the last episode and i can't even force myself to like it on the Lost level right now.
better intro sequence would just be the video for All is Full of Love, straight up, no edits, with "WESTWORLD" tacked on at the end
― Karl Malone, Monday, 14 November 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link
Do we think that Ford was building a host Theresa down there in the basement?
― schwantz, Monday, 14 November 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link
o god probably
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link
we do think that, to the degree that we can be arsed to think about this show at all
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 14 November 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link
I've watched the first two episodes of this. It's good, but boy is it slow... Not the plot or the action but just... I dunno, I found myself getting itchy and/or tired of waiting for it to move on. Does it pick up?
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 14 November 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link
it picks up and gets very bad
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link
I'm still into it. I cannot explain why in any convincing way. Maybe I'm just a sucker for AI stories.
― schwantz, Monday, 14 November 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link
entertaining and dimwitted; i thought the big twist was pretty well executed.
funny how the nature of HBO shows is such that murder (OH SORRY SPOILERS) seems like really low stakes in a conflict.
what used to set HBO apart was how well its shows dramatized people struggling as individuals in a particular organization with its own rules and prerogatives (the mob, cops/gangs, a lawless town). even the Leftovers was at its best when in that mode (how do we live together in a world with different rules). WW is more concerned with 'mystery' in a basic sense, tune in next week etc
wright is so good, can't take any objections here
boy william really went for it didn't he. what a dope.
― goole, Monday, 14 November 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link
Karl - I respect your deep metaphorical reading: What I don't get is: why would they 3d print a fucking piano? Why not just use one of the like thousands of existing pianos?
I get why you make a personbot; those are needed because otherwise you'd have all kinds of consent problems, what with the frequency with which guests want to fuck and/or kill them. Reproducibility, reparability, comparative disposability. It's nice that they make horsebots too, for some of the same reasons. Birds? Uh, well, sure, make birdbots too, what the hell.
If piano strings are so scarce in the distant future that they need to extrude/spray them out of high-tech nozzles, fine, I guess. But is that also how they get chairs, wood, glass, whiskey, guns? At some point wouldn't it make more sense just to buy and have actual stuff?
― marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 14 November 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link
idk if there are thousands of existing faux-1800s player pianos
― mh 😏, Monday, 14 November 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link
If you wanted an exact replica of a 19th century piano w/o wear and tear you could just punch the details into the printer instead of hauling some antique shop piano into space or wherever
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 14 November 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link
They have wood and they have metal. Someone could make a piano the usual way.
― marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 14 November 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link
Can't wait for the Westworld character who's the equivalent of Arthur Dent complaining that the replicator can't make tea that tastes like tea
― mh 😏, Monday, 14 November 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link
why would they 3d print a fucking piano? Why not just use one of the like thousands of existing pianos?
my one remaining wish for this world, this westworld, is that they resolve this mystery at the very end of the last episode of the series, just before dramatically cutting to the final credits, with no music.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 14 November 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link