"I'm a sovereign human being, I stand under common law only" - Thread of Freemen

so pissed

seriously, US ilxors, this is a big fucking deal. no charges AT ALL. meanwhile, Standing Rock is being brutalized as I write this.

Ridiculous

it's really scary tbh

$6 million in damage, the refuge has still not reopened

they were acquitted of all charges after the judge dismissed the one juror that wanted to convict and got somebody else to sign on

Fuck these goddamn pieces of shit, their garbage ideas, their bullshit privilege, their hateful rhetoric, their kid-glove treatment, and every single LEO, judiciary member, and juror involved in this disgraceful decision. There's a hot little corner in hell that has your name on it, you scum.

― sleeve, Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:55 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

after the judge dismissed the one juror that wanted to convict and got somebody else to sign on

the "somebody else" was an alternate juror both the defense and prosecution had agreed upon, who had sat in on the trial and heard all the testimony. the dismissed juror had made the extremely stupid remark that he was "very biased" as the jury opened its deliberations, causing another juror to send a written enquiry to the judge regarding the stupid juror's impartiality. in order to avoid an appeal based on the stupid juror's remark, she seated the alternate juror.

this wasn't some 'fix'. it was a bunch of jurors who decided in favor of the defendants. why they did, god alone knows.

lol because it was a fucking fix you moron

plz explain how they 'fixed' it, since you seem to know. being a moron, I can't see how it was done, but you, being brilliant, can show me I'm sure.

sorry by "moron" I meant "sexist, pedantic, pillar of white male privilege with some weird chip on his shoulder who has been shitting all over ILX for far too long with his chin-stroking challops"

brilliant!

Dude you're out of line you need a timeout

sleeve, have a drink.

I bet lavoy finicum feels real fuckin stupid right now

thx Alfred yes I'm out for the night, this is still an outrage and does not bode well at all

Just the precedent we need as we prepare for legions of idiots on Nov 9th.

thx Alfred yes I'm out for the night, this is still an outrage and does not bode well at all

― sleeve

neither did dan white's acquittal

What the hell happened? This is ludicrous.

Checks and balances

it's almost like a country built on armed white supremacy still hasn't quite moved on

I bet lavoy finicum feels real fuckin stupid right now

haha, kept thinking the same thing.

Bundy attorney arrested in courtroom, tackled and subdued with stun guns:

http://katu.com/news/local/ammon-bundys-attorney-marcus-mumford-arrested-after-standoff-trial-verdict

marcus... mumford?

please tell me he runs his law office in partnership with his male offspring

contempt charges, I'm guessing? just says Marshals say he was resisting arrest.

neither did dan white's acquittal

― The Huldre-girls ringtones (rushomancy)

don't really see the parallel between a lone homophobic wingnut and an armed insurrection of racists, unless you're saying that this country has made no progress whatsoever since the 70's which I am starting to believe.

The same Mother Jones reporter who went undercover in the private prison investigation also embedded with the 3 Percent Militia as they conducted operations on the Arizona/Mexico border. Worth a read
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/undercover-border-militia-immigration-bauer

i worry about that guy

getting correspondence from a couple of these goons at the moment. no you may not return your legal personhood to us, jack colon ass hyphen

"i got yr personhood right here"

So excited for u!

finally, this is related to the 2014 standoff

Bundy follower gets 68 years for role in armed Nevada standoff

long piece on the bundy crew hanging tight w/ social media on npr this morning.. one of the interviewees were talking about 'heavenly father' and I was reminded these nutters are all mormons

the core are fringey Mormons, but they welcome weirdos and losers from all walks

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/01/joe-arpaio-pardon-sheriffs-movement-215566?lo=ap_a1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOij6tQUEAAS3SX.jpg:small

btw, the Bundy trial is now (slowly) underway in Nevada.

wait what re: Jared

pretty sure not fucking children is common law tbh

well then he should be tried in a rightful jurisdiction, by a... sheriff?... and not by this sham of a legal system as is his god-given right

garbage human keeps right on garbaging

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/high-court-judge-fake-law-cases-should-not-be-tolerated-1.3308775?mode=amp

HIT EM AGAIN JUDGE I SAW HIM MOVE

I do like the "I refute it thus" ending to these things, but they still believe there's some kind of hidden law apart from what actually happens. It's a curious confusion, and it must emerge from more primitive misunderstandings, I think. And Americans; I blame Americans (and the Magna Carta).

i mean peace be on this judge and 1000 times yes hit em again but comments like this

Instead, “metaphysical concepts” were introduced to suggest the money “never actually existed”, although how the couple bought a property with “non-existent” funds was not explained.

don't tell the whole story do they, what he means is "my metaphysical concepts have the power of arrest and yours do not"

That is explicit

Dowd it's not confusion it's a sad mix of desperation and charlatanism and anyone taking advantage of the first party should see jail time imo

you can see how it would confuse simple folks. maybe mortgages should be paid out in big suitcases full of money, or better yet gold or something.

"see these doubloons right? well we're giving you these to buy your house, and we want you to bring us a pig once a month until we've covered the value"

Barter economy you sign away twenty percent of your output for the next forty years

Course the cash equivalent there is about two grand so I'm as well to bow to the original request

“quagmire of mantra like incantation that bears only a passing resemblance to understandable English”

just @ me m'lud