Robert Mitchum C/D, S/D

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"Mitchum is always playing a presence, a moral creature, incarcerated by the text, and when it works, he burns a hole in the screen, invests the vacant platitudes of professional screenwriting with something dark and strange, simply because he is not playing by the rules: he is obeying the rules, of course, as any convict must. He is hitting his marks, making the moves and saying the words, but he is not acting by the the rules, not deriving the subtext from the text."

Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

a diabolical shit.

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

my dream man.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i have that calypso album. I also use mitchum deodorant (coincidentally) he and orson welles are pretty much my favorite people ever, and also is my sexual ideal. i've probably seen night of the hunter a billion times.

\(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 23 September 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
TCM is doing a Bob Mitchum thing this week. Has anyone read that bio? I think it's got an Elvis song as it's title- You're So Square?

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

Baby I Don't Care

Marxism Goes Better With Coke (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

So you know what? I believe P!tchf0rk writer R0b M!tchum is in actual fact casually related to the ORM (Original Robert Mitchum).

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

i just watched and greatly enjoyed the noir/message picture Crossfire, but Robert Ryan is actually the main guy in that. Robert Young is in it too. Ryan is excellent, and Gloria Grahame is good in the typical Gloria Grahame B-girl role. Mitchum is OK, but like I said, it's not really his picture.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

Never seen any of his films, but he has some great songs!

Menelaus Darcy (Menelaus Darcy), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 04:00 (twenty years ago)

Robert Ryan is in a few a these actually. He's got a interesting thing going on, somewhere between a second string leading man and a Dan Duryea sleazeball.

k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

TS Robert Mitchum vs. Robert Ryan

After all, every one of these threads devoted to an oldtime actor usually has another actor pop up on them trying to steal the limelight, even the RIP ones.

k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

May I recommend a fantastic book called " Solid, Dad, Crazy" by Damien Love, which explores the idea that throughout his career Mitchum was playing outsider characters. It's a great accompaniment to the Lee Server bio (which is a fantastic book, one of the best hollywood biogs i've ever read).

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v24/n02/cart01_.html
I recently finally got to see Thunder Road. I can't seen to get hold of The Yakuza in the UK.. anyone got any ideas?

Pandas At War (pandas at war), Thursday, 6 October 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

So I finally figured out that the title of the bio Baby, I Don't Care is a line from Out Of The Past.

I like OOTP fine, but even after seeing it a few times, I have trouble getting completey absorbed in it- it is a little too long, elaborate, understated, laid back and abstract in a way, it is almost a mannerist take on noir. I actually prefer the other Mitchum/Greer teamup, The Big Steal- it's zips along at a fast pace, has got a great cast, and has some great stuff about Mexico.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

So the other day on a whim I bought a DVD of "My Forbidden Past", starring Mitchum and Ava Gardner. Today I checked up on what people were saying about it, and apparently it's widely considered a dud - hohum. But I decided to give it a whirl anyway, and - turns out the DVD inside the case isn't "My Forbidden Past" at all, but "Macao"! Which also has Mitchum in it, and is pretty awesome (Jane Russel's great in it too - not much of a plot, but plenty of wonderful banter) I'll never doubt the inherent classicness of purchasing anything Mitchum-related again!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 23 October 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

My Forbidden Past is pretty good too! Ava Gardner is even more beautiful than usual, if that's possible, and Melvyn Douglas is great as her aging corrupt scheming playboy cousin. It's sort of a lopsided movie, all buildup and than a too swift rush to the conclusion, but definitely worth seeing. The actress who plays Robert Mitchum's wife who is seduced by Melvyn Douglas is good too, although I forget her name. I dunno why it's viewed as such a dud-maybe people didn't like the soapy plot.

k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 23 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

I have trouble imagining anyone answering "dud" to this one.

M. V. (M.V.), Sunday, 23 October 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

If they do, then build their gallows high, baby.

k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 23 October 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
New Yorkers, there's an imported print of The Yakuza -- written by Towne and Schrader -- at Moving Image in Astoria tomw aftnoon:

http://www.movingimage.us/site/screenings/mainpage/critics.html


And has no one mentioned The Friends of Eddie Coyle?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2006 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Now there's another one I can't get hold of in the UK...

Pandas At War (pandas at war), Friday, 10 February 2006 14:55 (twenty years ago)

They have now!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 10 February 2006 14:57 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
His Kind Of Woman has a great cast, I just saw a feather-capped, Alpine-hunting-suit-in-Mexico-wearing Vincent Price pitching woo to gleaming glossy full-figure girl Jane Russell.

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:59 (twenty years ago)

The shady chessplayer with the accent who comes off like one of Harry Lime's cronies as played by Cesar Romero, I haven't figured out who he is yet.

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Saturday, 10 June 2006 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Now, after a screening of his latest picture, which is apparently a non-musical remake of The Dancing Cavalier, a plaid-smoking-jacket-wearing Vincent Price is being complimented by Jim Backus: "And none of this nonsense about social manners. People don't go to the movies to see how miserable the world is- they go there to eat popcorn!"

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Saturday, 10 June 2006 00:10 (twenty years ago)

OMG, Mitchum just got banco=-ed by Backus!

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Saturday, 10 June 2006 00:19 (twenty years ago)

And now Charles McGraw's got the drop on him!

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Saturday, 10 June 2006 03:03 (twenty years ago)

This movie is way too long.

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Saturday, 10 June 2006 03:17 (twenty years ago)

seven months pass...
Looking fwd to this DVD set, as of these I've only seen The Yakuza (v good, written by the Schraders if rendered with less expressionism than usual -- Sydney Pollack, after all).

http://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/dvd_review.asp?ID=1078

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

O fuck yeah!

Haha, I already own "Macao" twice!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Angel Face arrives today. I can't wait!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

There's a really long David Lean film on TV soon, "Ryan's Daughter" starring Mitchum. Is it worth seeing?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

It has a pretty bad reputation, but that wouldn't stop me.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Mitchum talking about enjoying being in Ireland during the shooting on that Robert Osborne interview. How come it didn't get swept along in the wake Barry Lyndon revival?

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

bcz Mitchum's Irish brogue is funnier than O'Neal's? and cuz John Mills won an Oscar for playing the village idiot? and cuz I don't think anyone has claimed it's a great film? (Armond White likes it I recall.)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Does this mean Home from the Hill and The Yakuza will get a dvd release (UK)? and What about Friends of Eddie Coyle while you're at it?

Macao is up there with His Kind Of Woman for Quality Mitchum performance in a crazy film.

Ryan's Daughter is a very atypical Mitchum performance - he's good in it.. I wouldn't vouch for the rest of the film though

Pandas At War (pandas at war), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNawbuG4mTg

:(

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

The Sundowners has always been a childhood favorite. Besides Mitchum, it also has Deborah Kerr looking earthy in a Sofia Loren way.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

How wasted is Mitchum in this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-YE76CfA_E

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 5 July 2007 01:20 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

Finally got a hold of the Lee Server bio. It's very good, lots of good anecdotes that seem like scenes from Mitchum movies.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

^^^ Robert Mitchum on the Dick Cavett show. It's in seven parts but well worth the viewing, he's in pretty great form. Drinking stories, stuff about the pot bust, his early life (chain gang, early jobs), and some stuff on acting that's slightly less one-sided than his soundbytes on the topic usually feel.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 19 October 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

I'm ashamed to be caught reading the AICN forums, but this story was worthy of reposting...

a story that Burt Reynolds told once on DINNER FOR FIVE: Robert Mitchum was a classic Hollywood tough guy, and because of that, he ended up running into a lot of people who wanted to fight him. Not because they didn't like him, but because he had that aura, that label, and they wanted to be able to tell their friends, "I went toe-to-toe with Mitchum." So one night, Mitchum and Reynolds and a couple of other people were at a bar, and a guy came up to Mitchum and just kept giving him shit, egging him on. Reynolds said that Mitchum kept his cool and kept telling the guy that he had no interest in fighting. The guy kept pressing and pressing and pressing finally bellied up against Mitchum, who was right at the bar. Without looking over, Mitchum grabbed the guy by the hair on the back of his head, slammed his face down on the bar, and just stood there while the dude crumpled to the ground unconscious. Then, Mitchum looked at the bartender and said, calmly, "Hey buddy? This guy fell and hurt himself."

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 09:12 (seventeen years ago)

'What makes a woman good in bed?'
'Proximity'

GamalielRatsey, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 09:25 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

Criterion releases The Friends of Eddie Coyle in May!

http://www.criterion.com/films/1426

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 26 February 2009 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

Coyle out tomorrow; booklet has a rather astounding 1973 Rolling Stone profile of Bob on the set.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 18 May 2009 17:21 (seventeen years ago)

Read this on 'Shadowplay' about Mitchum.

“On 'The RKO Story' there’s a teriffic anecdote from Robert Mitchum about the shooting of ['Angel Face']. There was a scene where he was required to slap Jean Simmons. Otto kept asking for take after take, and Mitchum quickly surmised that Otto liked to watch Jean getting slapped. So he turned the tables and slapped Otto. There were no further retakes.”

James Morrison, Monday, 18 May 2009 23:16 (seventeen years ago)

Still haven't jumped on the Eddie Coyle bandwagon.

barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 01:57 (seventeen years ago)

I had forgotten that he does the Boston accent in it; only slips a couple times, to my ears. They changed the pivotal snitch from the book, tho.

Steven Keats is really good (his film debut) as a gunrunner named Jackie Brown (obv Tarantino a fan).

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 02:44 (seventeen years ago)

i forgot how many great movies he is in.

"i like thye part in "out of the past" where douglas asks if mitchum wants a smoke, and mitchum holds up his lit cigarette and says, "smoking.""

-- this is still one of the great lines ever.

amateurist, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 10:57 (seventeen years ago)

watched Out of the Past last week, as i'm stumbling through a Noir phase, terrific movie.

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 13:45 (seventeen years ago)

Read this on 'Shadowplay' about Mitchum.

“On 'The RKO Story' there’s a teriffic anecdote from Robert Mitchum about the shooting of ['Angel Face']. There was a scene where he was required to slap Jean Simmons. Otto kept asking for take after take, and Mitchum quickly surmised that Otto liked to watch Jean getting slapped. So he turned the tables and slapped Otto. There were no further retakes.”

― James Morrison, Monday, May 18, 2009 Bookmark

They showed the RKO story about two months ago on BBC Four. Jean was also interviewed about it. Otto was a bloody creep.

Mitchum was one of the more fascinating interviewees (one of quite a few actually, really interesting to see former stars of stage and screen being interviewed about things they did when they had nothing in particular to promote). Very amusing when he was asked about 'auteurs' and the like. Didn't sound like he gave a shit about anything AT ALL. A biog and box set might need to set me straight one of these day.

I thought this was revived at first because Channel Four had been running one Mitchum film a day this week. Taped one Western from '47 which I'll see over the bank Holiday.

And, as am says, lots of great movies -- happened to catch a screening of Where Danger Lives, a noir type with Mitchum having it act as semi-conscious for much of it

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 22:33 (seventeen years ago)

last night I saw Wellman's Track of the Cat, which Bob isn't in all that much after the first half hour, playing a nasty eldest brother on a ranch. Really weird Western fsmily melodrama, with a menacing offscreen jaguar but mostly a lotta neo-Steinbeck/O'Neill sturm und drang, and a big part for Beulah Bondi as the grim prayerful matriarch.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 21 May 2009 02:46 (seventeen years ago)


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