The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

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Trump is wholly reactive. He's possibly more personable in a private setting among, like, his family or something. But when he's in public and surrounded by people baying for blood and thunder, that's what he delivers

xxxposts Fascists tend to stoke fantasies of fascist comeuppance in me. It's a personal failing, admittedly, but it's all ultimately just a lampoon. I don't honestly want Trump to be kept in a medium sized cardboard box and poked by a stick but it's a fun visual to conjure up.

Alito Shuffle (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link

How is Trump so in character all the time? Like even the stupidest or rudest people I've met/seen are still more human in certain settings.
His most human moment in the campaign was soberly talking about Harambe. So weird. (Ok, to be fair, he actually did sound compassionate and human during that "gaffe" when he was walking about soldiers with PTSD being "weak", in the full context.)

Nhex, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, some other dude from history was an animal lover, too, iirc.

Alito Shuffle (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

I wasn't implying that he is "pretending" in any way, just amazed that before Trump it seemed no matter how anyone presents themselves publicly, you could imagine they'd have some relatively relatable human moments when not in the spotlight. Pretty hard to imagine him not completely at peak Trump even during the most mundane moments.

Evan, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:29 (seven years ago) link

Another man there was, made the walls build on time

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, some other dude from history was an animal lover, too, iirc.

― Alito Shuffle (Old Lunch)

you're talking about francis of assisi, right?

fat fingered algorithm (rushomancy), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

I wonder if Trump even orders sandwiches in Trump-speak.

Evan, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link

He's a very against-pickles sub eater.

Alito Shuffle (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link

We're gonna have the best lettuce, believe me, simply amazing

wingless yurp (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link

has stunt casting the debate audience been a thing in the past?

rob, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link

no--but didn't Reagan have newsworthy people in the audience during his state of the unions?

a (waterface), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link

that still happens but it tends to be more uplifting in intent. the theatricality of planting theoretically upsetting people in the debate audience is so schlocky, like a TV lawyer trick

rob, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link

It's pretty much on the same level as what guests are invited to the State of the Union address.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:46 (seven years ago) link

Reagan started the practice of inviting honored guests

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:46 (seven years ago) link

Ah, honor.

Meantime, Wilson dropped another hint last night:

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/788598825476849664

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link

huh. I guess I haven't paid enough attention to the trolling-ness of those SOU choices

rob, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

Wow, how did I already forget Michael Cohen's hyperhatable face?

Alito Shuffle (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

but still, do members of Congress get to invite honored guests to the SOU who are there to explicitly throw the president off their game? anyway, not that debates are sacred or something, it just seems like a pretty embarrassing practice to become normalized

rob, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link

but still, do members of Congress get to invite honored guests to the SOU who are there to explicitly throw the president off their game?

Yup. This is how you get one of the Duck Dynasty dudes at an Obama SOU.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

ok lol I definitely missed that

rob, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

Anyway, Mr. Pareene:

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-election-is-done-by-the-way-1787947551

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

Le Tigre reunites for a one-off Hillary song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGFyxAP0QE

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link

That latest Rick Wilson tease-tweet, the "aren't even women he'd be attracted to" as the premise of the story he is linking...

Maybe it's that Trump had a fling with a dude?

Evan, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link

xp also note the horrified posts in the Le Tigre thread

sleeve, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link

If he had a fling with Michael Cohen, THAT would be revolting.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

the wait for Rick Wilson video story expose thingy is worse than the wait for NX :-(

jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link

oh man that le tigre thing...

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, it's bad.

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

so ... its Le Tigre?

jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

Maybe it's that Trump had a fling with a dude?

My money is on Bill Clinton

cookware regression (Dinsdale), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

I love Kathleen but yeesh

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

This is how you get one of the Duck Dynasty dudes at an Obama SOU.

Obama should have counter-trolled by inviting a duck imho

wingless yurp (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:10 (seven years ago) link

The new Julie Ruin is great, but that song is straight-up amateur hour.

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

On the 'shits and giggles' side of things

https://twitter.com/leyawn/status/788767824592379904

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link

lmao

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:22 (seven years ago) link

can't believe the Dems buckled to O'Keefe yet again, how is that guy not in jail

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:32 (seven years ago) link

So a guest of Trump's tonight will be...Wayne Newton!

Which led to this:

https://twitter.com/AnnieLowrey/status/788756188103974912

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link

Uh so hey everyone, remember how we were all 'LOL' at remembering Eminem's "Mosh" yesterday?

http://www.complex.com/music/2016/10/eminem-new-song-campaign-speech

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link

Em goes in for over seven minutes on the track

oh dear

¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

That latest Rick Wilson tease-tweet, the "aren't even women he'd be attracted to" as the premise of the story he is linking...

This fuckin' guy.

Patti Labelle is in here with her high but mediocre singing voice. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link

i know it's been said but good lord that le tigre thing is fucking terrible

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

Em goes in for over seven minutes on the track

no thank you!#!!!

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

In response, Trump has commissioned Skrewdriver for his campaign song

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link

man I've been on a couple friends' FB threads and their conservative relatives are going apeshit over the O'Keefe sting.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link

the magic of editing

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link

"this guy who fakes things made another totally amazing thing that I'm sure this time is 100% accurate and real!"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link

O'Keefe is a walking fecalith

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

It's no "Deceptacon (DFA remix)", but I'll take what I can get:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGFyxAP0QE

publicity hungry, opportunistic, disgruntled former employee (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link


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