^
actual treatment written by Snyder
― latebloomer, Saturday, 26 July 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe its purposeful misdirection
― CaptainLorax, Saturday, 26 July 2008 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I think we might as well give up on the masses ever being as big of smart asses us whether they read the book or not.
― Abbott, Saturday, 26 July 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link
“[The graphic novel] is #1 or #2 on Amazon right now, and that’s awesome. I think that if in the end the movie is a 3-hour advertisement for the book, then so be it. I succeeded.”
I think this fanboyish total devotion to the original source material is kinda worrysome. In every Snyder interview I've read he seems to repeat that he just wants to bring Moore & Gibbon's vision to the screen as faithfully as possible, to do justice to this great piece of art, etc. I think that's kind of a sheepish attitude; as a movie director you're supposed to be an artist yourself, and give us your take of the subject. I don't think a comic book movie should be like exactly like the original comic, only set in motion. It should at least have a fresh interpretation of the source material. I think one of the problems with the Sin City movie was exactly that it tried to slavishly copy Miller's comic books as they were, right down to the reduced, cartoonish visual style, without realizing that what looks good in the pages of comic book might look silly in a movie (the Yellow Bastard, for example). At least the folks who did V for Vendetta added their own ideas and interpretations to the original story.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 27 July 2008 08:39 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^arguably not a good thing though
― DG, Sunday, 27 July 2008 08:57 (fifteen years ago) link
v for vendetta was a shitty, shitty movie
― latebloomer, Sunday, 27 July 2008 09:13 (fifteen years ago) link
so true
― Shakey Mo Collier, Sunday, 27 July 2008 13:17 (fifteen years ago) link
oddly the people I knew who really liked it were people who had never read the book
(okay perhaps not so oddly)
This week’s Watchmen festival is finally wrapping up for me. I’m done. How much Watchmen can one guy take? Upon arriving, I thought this was a Comic Book Festival, but I was sadly mistaken. This was an awesome Watchmen commercial that I actually got to walk around in. How exciting is that?
As soon as I got off the train, I saw every person on the street was carrying a big Watchmen bag. They had Watchmen posters, and Watchmen toys and photos with their favorite Watchmen characters. Not everyone who wanted to see the Watchmen panel were able to get it, but the creators of the movie and the entire cast were there. And they talked about the movie!!!!
I found all the money the studio spent promoting Watchmen at Comic Con to be ridiculous. These are nerds. It is like trying to sell guns to the NRA. You know how the studio could market The Watchmen to nerds? Go to a remote town in Alaska and find a nerd. Then just walk up to him and whisper, “There’s going to be a Watchmen movie.” At that point, every nerd in the world will know. They have some sort of communication device.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 28 July 2008 01:27 (fifteen years ago) link
It is like trying to sell guns to the NRA.
BAHAHAHA
― Abbott, Monday, 28 July 2008 01:28 (fifteen years ago) link
They have some sort of communication device.
I gather they've heard of those tubes up in Alaska.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 July 2008 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I like how you noticed a hint of "don't let them in my secret garden" comic fans.. kinda like when music elitists hate it when scenesters enjoy THEIR music (the elitists music).
tbh I get just as annoyed by music fans that do this too.
Really, I'm just happy that my friends are now getting into this book and I have people to discuss it with.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 28 July 2008 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link
as a movie director you're supposed to be an artist yourself, and give us your take of the subject.
Normally I would agree, but I really don't think I want to see Zach Snyder's interpretation of anything.
― Gukbe, Monday, 28 July 2008 08:38 (fifteen years ago) link
cool posters
― blueski, Monday, 28 July 2008 10:46 (fifteen years ago) link
A little something from the bald one. (Not Dr. Manhattan.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link
with this, and Oliver Stone's W. trailer, and all those scary goose-bumps-inducing Veidt commercials slated to come with the movie, and their glaringly unmistakable collective vibe just points to one exact thing: the 80's IS coming back. Neither a remake, nor pastiche, and not just in a mere period sense, it's simply returning something fierce. That is the looming zeitgeist.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link
The '80s
is how it is
My sister-in-law gave me a shirt that said:
I (clip art of a fake Pat Benetar) 80's
It was comfy & fit well, but I'm not all that <3 of 80's..the minor and common style issue in abbreviating that decade was what really kept me from wearing the shirt, ever.
Asshole message end.
― Abbott, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link
can a zeitgeist really "loom"?
― max, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link
it is simply returning something fierce
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link
A zeitgeist is, translated extremely literally, a 'time ghost,' so I think it can't do anything but loom.
― Abbott, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link
i've always been partial to the idea of a leering zeitgeist
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link
like damn 2008 is durnk and keeps licking its teeth at me wtf
i think geist means 'spirit' more than ghost as in the 'spirit of the age'
― max, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Imagine Boo-berry in a tardis, and somehow he is wicked looming with some American Psycho-throwback regeneration brought about by a trailer for a movie about the 21st century's president. Fuck!
― Abbott, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
im not saying that it can't loom
― max, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
abbott you have destroyed my mind
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, it is 'spirit of the times' but geist can also mean ghost. I find it amusing to be way too literal in any language. Plz ignore.
― Abbott, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Srsly how is a trailer w/a young 'Dubya' proving it is now THE '80s.
― Abbott, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah I don't get the Dubya connection at all. When I think 80s I don't think Dubya. (W will be way better than this, btw!)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link
he was young(er) in the 80s. IT MAKES THE SENSE.
― blueski, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess we all were
I was reading a "Weekly Reader" about the 1988 Olympics in that looming zeitgeist.
― Abbott, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link
"booberry in a tardis" MEANS something to me.
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link
How can I avoid this looming zeitgeist? Is there an antidote?
― Z S, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Lemme guess - I'm supposed to BUY something.
Knock booberry out of tardis, vote Obama.
― Abbott, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link
i re-read my copy of watchmen last nite, just 4 tha hell of it
it kinda... isn't that good
― cankles, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 09:37 (fifteen years ago) link
challops!
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 10:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I do wonder what makes you say that.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 10:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I watched the 'motion comic' of the first issue of Watchmen last night. It was VERY not good, and even more pointless than I thought it would be.
Tied for most obnoxious:
a - one guy doing all the voices, including Sally
b - the word balloons appearing on screen as the one guy was reading them
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link
this can't be as bad as Moore reading extracts from it himself on The Culture Show last year
― blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 13:12 (fifteen years ago) link
What the heck is this "motion comic"?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 13:15 (fifteen years ago) link
It's panels from the comic with a little bit of Flash animation and a voice over. Free on iTunes, if you think you can stomach it.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link
That sounds awful, who would ever think such an idea could work?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I dunno. My excuse for watching it I can't help being curious about strange formalist blends, and that certainly fit the bill. Pure unalloyed fail, though.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link
http://chud.com/articles/articles/15768/1/SDCC08-ZACK-SNYDER-INTERVIEW-WATCHMEN/Page1.html
― latebloomer, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link
that "Page1" in the url is a big tease. I thought there would be a lot more to it than just 500 words of fluff like "I like Iron Man and the Dark Knight but this is different."
― Oilyrags, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I believe the crux of the movie is that it offers a moral choice. That is Watchmen. Let's just say that, without getting too spoilerish, a certain character in the movie survives that.
Rorschach lives = fuck that shit
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link
haha guess I shoulda read the rest of the paragraph first