The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

the DJP/DJT confusion is making me very, very angry

to be fair, his basic political platform is very similar to a policy you one hinted at sharing

Do you stick your penis up your ass when you twist it around and see how far up your back it reaches?

seems like a pretty elaborate hoax for Nedeljnik to put up -- they're touting the interview on the cover!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuqlPsiVIAAKCmC.jpg:small

this tweet was still up this morning; deleted sometime since

Vid of Michelle Obama from today:

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497817419/michelle-obama-trump-comments-have-shaken-me-to-my-core1

Choppy vid quality, but I would hazard that the Cspan servers are getting _hammered_

https://mobile.twitter.com/EugeneMirman/status/786627736399966210

Eugene Mirman‏ @EugeneMirman

"Sorry, I can't release this evidence until my Pussy-Audit is complete."

The Associated Press‏ @AP
BREAKING: Trump says he has evidence to disprove allegations of sexual assault, will release it at `appropriate time'

Oct 13, 2016, 11:00 AM

I have evidence Trump is a dick hole.

shh! he'll sue you!

“The Clinton machine is at the center of this power structure,” Trump continued. “We have seen this in the WikiLeaks documents in which Hillary Clinton meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers, her special interest friends, and her donors."

The crowd chanted “Lock her up!” in response. Trump said "she should be locked up.”

Trump called the media reporting on his personal life “horrible people.”

“The most powerful weapon deployed by the Clintons is the corporate media: the press. Let's be clear on one thing, the corporate media in our country is no longer involved in journalism. They're a political special interest, no different than any lobbyist or any other financial entity with a total political agenda and the agenda is not for you, it’s for themselves,” Trump said.

“Their agenda is to elect crooked Hillary Clinton at any costs, at any price, no matter how many lives they destroy,” he continued. “For them, it's a war. And for them, nothing at all is out of bounds. This is a struggle for the survival of our nation. Believe me. And this will be our last chance to save it.”

yikes

secret meetings with international banks to plot destruction of US sovereignty

ctrl+f "lizard people"

Uh oh

he's playing the revolution card

“Ladies out there, this is what guys talk about when you’re not around. So if you're offended by it, grow up. Okay?” actor Scott Baio said on Fox News.

Baio added: “And by the way, this is what you guys talk about over white wine when you have your brunches. So take it easy with your phony outrage.”

I missed this part earlier so I just wanna say.... what kind of monster drinks white wine with brunch

how about Paul the Pussy

― Οὖτις, Thursday, October 13, 2016 3:15 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seems reasonable

Charles in Charge
of our discourse
and our privates

“Their agenda is to elect crooked Hillary Clinton at any costs, at any price, no matter how many lives they destroy,”

Oh, how ironic would it be if, at election's end, Trump is the one who gets locked up.

he'll never go to jail

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/4c/83/d5/4c83d5fa9ef35bc63fa26d7fe65209a7.jpg

I didn't say jail ...

http://jonathanronson.tumblr.com/post/151407037477/the-elephant-in-the-rooma-journey-into-the-trump

Jon Ronson published a shorter follow-up book to his bit on Alex Jones, 15 years after the printing of _Them_

It's crazy to me that there are 1000s of hours of Trump being an asshole on his TV show that may go unreleased.

@ABCLiz
For those interested: Clinton said gifs with a hard "G"

i cannot defend these comments; vote your own conscience

lol is this real?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CurRagjWEAA47j6.jpg

no

i think that got snopes-ed as fake a while back

Nope - http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/

Ragin' Rudy admits he made an oopsie!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/giuliani-admits-wrong-clinton-9-11-071733679--election.html

per CNN reporter dan merica:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CurQC1DWYAEe_bK.jpg:small

that's been running around fb for over a year as fodder for gullible liberals (the trump 'quote')

what a beta xp

HRC: good for people, and cats

it's at least in part a complete sop to a voting bloc she already has on lockdown, but fuck it, i loled

http://www.theonion.com/article/trump-complains-entire-personality-rigged-against--54174

@ABCLiz
For those interested: Clinton said gifs with a hard "G"
i cannot defend these comments; vote your own conscience

― mookieproof, Thursday, October 13, 2016 3:55 PM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've never been more with her

Great Guardian essay on the class gulf separating media types from everyone else, and how that feeds weird narrative about white working class folk:

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/oct/13/liberal-media-bias-working-class-americans

When we talked, Zaitchik mentioned HBO talk-show host Bill Maher, who he pointed out “basically makes eugenics-level arguments about anyone who votes for Donald Trump having congenital defects. You would never get away with talking that way about any other group of people and still have a TV show.”

Maher is, perhaps, the pinnacle of classist smugness. In the summer of 1998, when I was 17 and just out of high school, I worked at a grain elevator during the wheat harvest. An elevator 50 miles east in Haysville, Kansas, exploded (grain dust is highly combustible), killing seven workers. The accident rattled my community and reminded us about the physical dangers my family and I often faced as farmers.

[...]

Media fascination with the hateful white Trump voter fuels the theory, now in fashion, that bigotry is the only explanation for supporting him. Certainly, financial struggle does not predict a soft spot for Trump, as cash-strapped people of color – who face the threat of his racism and xenophobia, and who resoundingly reject him, by all available measures – can attest. However, one imagines that elite white liberals who maintain an air of ethical grandness this election season would have a harder time thinking globally about trade and immigration if it were their factory job that was lost and their community that was decimated.

Affluent analysts who oppose Trump, though, have a way of taking a systemic view when examining social woes but viewing their place on the political continuum as a triumph of individual character. Most of them presumably inherited their political bent, just like most of those in “red” America did. If you were handed liberalism, give yourself no pats on the back for your vote against Trump.

https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/786672386309496832?s=09

love the twitter detectives at work here

how does clinton prounce "gigabyte"

However, one imagines that elite white liberals who maintain an air of ethical grandness this election season would have a harder time thinking globally about trade and immigration if it were their factory job that was lost and their community that was decimated

bit of a fallacy here - I don't think it was "elite white liberals", by and large, that voted for the policies that decimated those communities.

There are plenty of rich Trump supporters too. I wonder, however, if they are really dumb enough to buy into all the breitbart conspiracy bullshit he was going on about today.

Yes. Yes, they are. Guys like what's his face, the CEO of Home Depot, was on FOX the other day pulling every single "What about Bill Clinton card?" that the Breitbart crowd fever swamp deals in. They're ALL that dumb.

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2016/10/uncle-luke-remembers-party-donald-trumps-wild-leave/?trackback=fbshare_top_flat_4

lol @ this little bit on Breitbart:

Hillary’s combative behavior is nothing new; she’s been that way all her life. For my 2005 book The Truth About Hillary, I interviewed Hillary’s grammar school classmate, Jim Yrigoyen, who told me the story of being ordered by Hillary to guard a warren of baby rabbits, and not give any of them away to neighborhood boys. When he did, recalled Yrigoyen, “Hillary hauled off and punched me in the nose.”

not exactly a good argument against Hillary IMO

At this point in his campaign, given by what he's said, his supporters are fair game. Is it elitist sneering to be against sexual assault and demagoguery?

Affluent analysts who oppose Trump, though, have a way of taking a systemic view when examining social woes but viewing their place on the political continuum as a triumph of individual character

it's also weird to ascribe this solely to "affluent analysts" too since it's absolutely true for their opposites.

tbh I find the concept of "affluent analysts" sort of laughable, not v many of them live David Brooks' lifestyle afaik. journalists don't get paid shit.

Hillary OTM

If anything, I think the media has been too polite about describing the creeps who are (still) voting for Trump. Esp. after it was found that the average Trump voter was better-off than the average Clinton voter.

It's true that analysts and journalists have been indoctrinated with a level of civility just by having (for the most part) attended a liberal-arts university. That's a good thing. At this point, I really don't see how Trump voters are deserving of anything other than scorn. It's way past pity time.

And the final paragraph is just comparing lazy stereotypes as well. The whole stereotyping of the Trump voter probably has a lot to do with his campaign relying on fascist-style rallies for getting his message out. The media has been awful this election, but they're also reporting on the story they're being sold.

I think the point of the piece was that the view of the avg Trump voter _was_ way off, that pundits and talking heads are so disconnected from working class types they could easily lay the bulk of Trump's support at their feet. Similar to Patterson Hood's line about racism being a huge problem everywhere but it's always depicted as using a Southern accent(I'm butchering this ref, I think).