The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

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if someone can be convinced that DJT is fit to lead the free world i suspect there's no end to the things you could convince this person to believe.

Read this as DJP at first.

nickn, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link

im also scurred of chris wallace but john dickerson from face the nation (and the slate podcast) says he thinks hes a good questioner who will be fair.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link

I don't get the impression Chris Wallace is a fan of Trump or any of his bullshit. He might actually be the toughest moderator of all.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link

And it's not like Ailes has any say over him at this point.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/786258510443008000 😗👌

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link

candidates’ fitness to be president

is this purposefully broad?

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link

cardio question every 7 minutes

j., Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

Wallace and Trump hate each other iirc

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link

Chris Wallace doesn't matter. Unless the polls reverse course in a big way, Clinton will be in DGAF mode for the third debate. I'm guessing she was rattled in the second one because Trump was gaining ground. Her worst moments were when she tried engaging with him. Now? She can just ignore all the insanity entirely and calmly recite campaign material. Just take a knee and run out the clock. Meanwhile Trump is going to lurch onto the stage and burst forth from his own skin like a Cronenberg movie.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link

she wasn't rattled

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link

New story, on record:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link

she was ridiculously calm and chill at the debate imo, you'd never know the other bullshit had gone down minutes before

nomar, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

I'm guessing she was rattled in the second one because Trump was gaining ground.

Huh? He's been in a freefall for weeks.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

In a phone interview on Tuesday night, a highly agitated Mr. Trump denied every one of the women’s claims.

“None of this ever took place,” said Mr. Trump, who began shouting at The Times reporter who was questioning him. He said that The Times was making up the allegations to hurt him and that he would sue the news organization if it reported them.

“You are a disgusting human being,” he told the reporter as she questioned him about the women’s claims.

Asked whether he had ever done any of the kissing or groping that he had described on the recording, Mr. Trump was once again insistent: “I don’t do it. I don’t do it. It was locker room talk.”

nomar, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link

New story, on record:

but Ned NRO said there wasn't a single witness!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

fucking hell, this guy

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

Alas, NRO might be, how you say, wrong.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

“He was like an octopus,” she said. “His hands were everywhere.”

is anybody else hearing this in the voice of John Cale

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

i knew i heard that somewhere before

do i look sexy today 564 (map), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link

Also (per Rick Wilson's talk about the next 'big' story I observed earlier), I note Erickson just said this on his site re this new NYT story:

And this is not the big story that should be out later this week.

It's pretty obvious *something* is coming down the pike.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link

She seemed a tiny bit rattled by Trump being an abusive monster who said he wanted to destroy her life, called her the devil, stalked her on stage and several times seemed close to attacking her. She seemed less rattled than anyone should be expected to be in that situation.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link

love Trump's reaction in this story - cool as a cucumber that guy!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link

can't wait for more, mmm schadenfreude

sleeve, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

The next few weeks will be, I suspect, Cosby-esque.

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

tbh i'm kind of amazed they got him on the phone for it.

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

yeah why is he even talking to any of the press at this point

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:58 (seven years ago) link

"And this is not the big story that should be out later this week."

goddamnit I want it now

akm, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link

Trump + Cosby would've made a good 70s sexual-predator-buddy-horror-movie team

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link

my guess is they'd be dropping it on friday in advance of the third debate?

nomar, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:00 (seven years ago) link

Kinda my thought.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:00 (seven years ago) link

TGIF

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link

I do wonder who the "they" is in this case

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link

“He was like an octopus,” she said. “His hands were everywhere.”

is anybody else hearing this in the voice of John Cale

― Οὖτις,

omigod

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:04 (seven years ago) link

if only it were donald trump's brain throbbing gently in the morning sun

do i look sexy today 564 (map), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link

Brave women. I wish them insulation from the rape apologist hordes sure to be beating down their doors.

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link

Trump supporters in Lakeland, Florida

PappaWheelie V, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link

That guy's feed, tho. Trump is still using every line he's been using for the last year, some of which he's walked back on the record.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link

Some behind the scenes fun here

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/trump-gets-ready-to-be-a-bad-loser

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:35 (seven years ago) link

it's starting feel like...just piling on

akm, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:36 (seven years ago) link

Apparently Bannon is annoyed:

https://twitter.com/JoshuaGreen/status/786345095184338944

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:38 (seven years ago) link

Trump + Cosby would've made a good 70s sexual-predator-buddy-horror-movie team

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:59 PM (twenty-six minutes ago)

re-edit "hickey and boggs" with trump in the place of robert culp

fat fingered algorithm (rushomancy), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link

via anderson cooper extracting an unambiguous denial during the debate

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link

More on what Bannon's aiming for:

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-12/trump-takes-a-back-to-the-future-focus-on-bill-clinton-s-women

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link

haha, is this going to be a grope news dump today? I wonder how many stories? i'm surprised that erin burnette's friend's story hasn't been more widely disseminated (he apparently grabbed her and kissed her)

akm, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:43 (seven years ago) link

yeah it seems like watching trump deny unwanted physical advances during the debate pushed a lot of women to go public. that ny times article is worth reading in full. it fucking sucks to wonder how many there are.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:44 (seven years ago) link

ned, rick wilson is a fun follow...

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/786351561878503424

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 23:44 (seven years ago) link


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