I HATE APPLE

Why not use the built-in upgrade in the mac app store?

My mbp is late 2008 so not compatible with Sierra. Apple have removed all earlier macOS versions from the app store "to avoid confusion with Sierra" according to the Apple chat person. They advised my only recourse was a 3rd party USB hence my question.

Seems crazy that I can't connect the iPhone due to having an older version of iTunes when I can still connect my old ipod touch running os5 or something

usb upgrade stick for os x?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00GCCV9P0/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1476257552&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=os+mavericks&dpPl=1&dpID=51jTI4xZmaL&ref=plSrch

That's really annoying. Having to do anything like this seems like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut! But in case it's helpful, if you actually do want Sierra I think this thing should work for you: http://dosdude1.com/sierrapatch.html (make sure it's not going to hose your wifi though!)

Earlier versions of osx should be easy enough to find just by googling 'osx el capitan (or whatever) dmg'. I think that dude^ in the above link has some archived versions.

re sierra patcher though, worth keeping in mind that there's always the chance a future update could break compatability etc so it's poss not a great idea if you rely on your laptop day in day out..

I did the same thing, never got around to updating to El Capitan and now it's too late to do it officially. As suggested above I did find a download of it last night from one of the build-your-own Hackintosh sites, but I'm a little wary of installing before I do some more research on the legitimacy of the site.

apple is bad

apple is bad

Yup. Thanks for the replies. I'm going to check out the USB stick option I think. The mbp is 8 yrs old this Xmas but it seems a waste to just get shut of it. I've given it a new battery and ssd and it's in fine fettle.

I just can't fathom the move to stop an iPhone user from syncing/backing up their device when that is the first recommendation when you suspect something is wrong with the device.

But this is the company that said they had to get rid of the headphone socket because they needed to have courage or some such piffle. Rant over.

I've been thinking the next pro might be the time to update from my '12 air but oh look

Previous rumors and part leaks have suggested the upcoming MacBook Pro will include four USB-C ports, doing away with an SD card slot, an HDMI port, USB-A ports, and a MagSafe connection.

Would much rather have an sd slot than be able to chop sushi with the lid end of my laptop. And getting rid of magsafe is insane, that is a brilliant feature that has saved my mac from injury loads of times. Fuck these hubristic arseholes.

but whatever, they've already done it with the 12 inch macbook so I'm sure it'll happen

my magsafe connector went bad on my mbp, wouldn't charge anymore but would stay powered when plugged in. I took it to an apple store two weeks ago, and after a week's service they replaced the magsafe connector, gave me a new charger, and replaced the screen (which I didn't even know was failing, evidently the layer atop it was slowly peeling off, I just thought it was dirty). I don't have applecare but apparently under a european consumer law they had to do all this for free. yay Europe!

*falls into a crumpled britisher heap*

As if on cue, shortly after I returned my 7, my 6's battery life became comically bad, like I fully charge it 2-3x per 24 hours now. Thinking about either a 6s or an SE

Lemme know who in nyc has a good deal on SEs, I think that's where I'm headed next

I think retail pricing is standardized? However Costco often has deals on iphones that get around this with rebates in costco cash card form or some kind of special extra accessory pack you get. The only tradeoff is that their wireless kiosks tend to not be the well-oiled machines that like official verizon stores are and it can be a slight pain to purchase through them.

Best Buy has $50 off the Verizon and Sprint 64gb SE ( $50 gift card if you're on AT&T) for the next couple of days if you do the two year installment plan.

I ended up buying a used 6 on Swappa.com for $319 and then immediately traded it in for full $649 credit on a 7 with Verizon. Not a bad deal. Don't like the new home button.

Hm what kind of trade in would I get for my 128gb 6+, I wonder.

i wonder too, got the same

Was that with a new verizon account? They only offer 200 for my 6 but I'm a returning customer.

The home button on my iPhone has stopped working (most of the time), I think because after they got rid of swipe to unlock I started using the touch ID feature and just maybe wore it out?

Anyway, now I gotta figure out the cheapest way to get a new phone from Sprint, and it is not as easy to figure out as it was when you used to get part of the phone subsidized with a two-year contract.

No, I've been with them for a while, but it was a limited time offer -- maybe the first week or two after the 7 went on sale. Looks like they're only offering $200 for a 6 and $300 for a 6S now. If you can hold off for a little bit there are usually some Black Friday deals.

The home button on my iPhone has stopped working (most of the time)

I found out recently that most Chinese avoid using the home button on their iPhones, possibly to avoid wearing it out.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/chinese-use-assistivetouch-on-iphone-2015-5?r=US&IR=T

Not sure if they've stopped doing it on the new ones with no physical home button.

No physical home button is a big draw for me now that I know it wears out. These things are pricey investments. Unfortunately assistive touch is really, really cumbersome: it adds several extra clicks to even the simplest tasks, and when you have carpal tunnel (I know, lame) those clicks add up.

how does it add clicks?

It's a floating button you have to click to open a menu, where you click some more. You also have to move it around the screen because sometimes it sits on top of other things you're trying to click on. It's an adequate fallback (I'd be fucked without it), but it's clumsy and much much slower and less intuitive than simply clicking the home button

oh got it

FAO Dayo and anyone else that was mad they removed swipe up from bottom right for camera.

Take a picture—fast

The tiny camera icon in the lower-right corner of the Lock screen—for quick access to the Camera app—is gone. In iOS 10, getting to the point of taking a photo is even faster. Click the Home button to wake the phone—and then swipe left anywhere on the screen. In under a second, you’re ready to take a photo.

"under a second" right bcz once you swipe right it doesn't take an addt'l 4-5 seconds to load the actual damn camera...

works fast on my 6+

it worked so fast it took the picture before I even swiped on a 7

thanks spottie - my problem with it is that it doesn't always register the full swipe - more of than not it will swipe 25% and then go back to home screen. i got near 100% on swipe down->up. maybe because there's more room to swipe up

I've experienced this too, annoying.

hah i was like wtf you talking about then it did it to me like 4 times in a row smh

that old functionality was perfect no idea why they would remove it and replace it with.... nothing

The only diff is that the whole screen is a swipe target, rather than just one little corner of it. And the direction you swipe. That's it. How is that worse?

yeah it seems easier to me, but I never got used to the old behaviour b/c of my big dumb fingers

I've given it a good go, but I hate the new notifications thing. I still can't work out when I should swipe them right, press them, hard press them or pull them down. This used to be so fucking simple

I just hard press them all and it gives me what I need.

Unfortunately, no force touch on my model. I'm left handed and used to swiping right (it used to not matter which direction), so it sucks for me... learning to swipe left now on all notifications to open the app.

Err, used to swiping left with my left thumb to open, now to swipe right. You get what I mean.

If you use assistive touch, can you avoid the home button altogether? Don't you have to press the home button to 'wake' the phone from standby?

You can press the power button on the top instead.

And with iOS 10 and a 6S or later you can set it to wake when you pick up the phone.

I am using a 5S still so it's no wonder it's taking forever to load the camera :( I'm planning on upgrading to the 7 but I'm locked into AT&T (bcz family plan), want an unlocked Verizon phone (bcz it supports more cellular bands), but don't want to pay for it all up front, and there is no way to do the payment plan w/ a diff carrier's phone

https://uxdesign.cc/a-critical-analysis-of-the-ios-10-lockscreen-experience-726ddfba3c1a#.dbafbwwwg

otm

the notifications are crap if you don't have 3d touch

cutting out the option to group notifications by app is dumb as hell

I really only want to stop them telling me to update to a new iOS several times a day and using 1mb of my iCloud (which I pay for) to "hold" an update that I do not want. Since I do pay for it I should have the choice.

i dropped my phone in the toilet on saturday

it's not turning on, this blows

guy at verizon store was supremely unhelpful, he just like stared at it with a mystified look on his face