xp!
― ryan, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link
STILL
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link
it's fitting that woke chaki ambivalent this show cuz its sense of humor reminds so much of that of old chaki
― flopson, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link
One of the show's emerging threads is the study of unexamined white privilege, and it works great when it's implicating McBride and Goggins' assumption of Brown's incompetence. But I find the racial stuff embarrassing w/ the handling of Goggins' wife (manipulative Asian woman w/ draconian mother?) and also in the expression of the Brown family dynamic in the "Teacher Work Day" episode. In that case, the family roles are a little broad/stereotyped for my comfort, even if they aren't outright racist/ignorant.
On another tip, I think there's a lot more the show could do to annihilate the teaching profession, and skewer pretensions of public education. In "Eastbound and Down" I always liked the parts that were about actually baseball –– and professional sports –– as much as the interpersonal dynamics between Kenny and Stevie or whoever. But VP's school setting is really underused –- and the escalation of Brown's conflict w/ the crotchety old hippy teacher is interesting (so far).
― remy bean, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link
manipulative Asian woman w/ draconian mother
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they get fleshed out in interesting ways in future episodes tbh, seems to be the strategy of this show so far with supporting characters
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link
THERES LIKE 2 EPISODES LEFT
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link
this shit aint getting renewed
there's 18 total planned iirc, idk why hbo wouldn't just let it ride
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:46 (seven years ago) link
they already shot all of the episodes
― nomar, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:49 (seven years ago) link
OH MY BAD LOL i thought i saw a one of those ONLY TWO EPS LEFT things on hbo
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:51 (seven years ago) link
Yeah this is a 2 seasons and done thing
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:52 (seven years ago) link
I hope, Οὖτις, that Russell family life gets explored. It would be worthwhile, 'cuz there's a potentially funny setup there. Also wondered if in response to the weightlifter's knuckling he was going to try to revenge himself somehow.
― remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2016 00:29 (seven years ago) link
this show is fucking good
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 1 September 2016 01:10 (seven years ago) link
Loved the use of Rachel Zeffira's music in the hospital scene.
― Ross, Sunday, 4 September 2016 07:20 (seven years ago) link
huh, so
― remy bean, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 01:11 (seven years ago) link
im not sure the show ever really got better but somehow i enjoyed this more and more as it went along. really curious to see where the rest of it goes, at least!
― ryan, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 01:17 (seven years ago) link
yea i laughed a lot @ this last ep, plot feels m/l incidental to me in a way but id really like to see more still
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 02:46 (seven years ago) link
not sure how you do a second season after that ending
― rip my mensches (s.clover), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link
In an era of dark comedies, this is pretty bleak. I know who I think was behind the mask.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 04:46 (seven years ago) link
Behind the mask? my guesses: Mrs. Russell, Gamby's daughter, a cabal of women (secretary, Snodgrass), the jilted ex–, the theatre teacher?
― remy bean, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 09:56 (seven years ago) link
Crazy neighbor guy?
― schwantz, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 14:02 (seven years ago) link
wau @ finale. I think it's safe to say at this point that fears expressed upthread about how this was all about reveling in two lame white guys humiliating a black woman were very wide of the mark. I mean, she definitely gets humiliated but the payback and the consequences of what they've done are p extreme. "I'm not sure the show ever really got better but somehow I enjoyed this more and more as it went along" mirrors my own experience. This is an incredibly dark and painfully funny show, it's crazy the way they tread such a fine line between the two. All of the main characters are p nuanced - it's brutal about their failings but also sympathetic about their respective issues, I can't really think of anything else like it. It feels like much more of an ensemble show in that respect than Eastbound and Down, which was p much just solely focused on the buffoonery of Kenny Powers.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link
Those last 2 eps... D: and I did *not* see that ending coming.
The too-obv masked person is Russell, but it wont be him I guess. Or more, I'd be disappointed if it was him, as thats too easy.
But yikes. the takedown scene at the rail tracks was hard to watch. I hated them all so much.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 03:10 (seven years ago) link
why would Russell blow up his own car
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 15:21 (seven years ago) link
misdirection
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link
that's some pretty expensive misdirection
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link
he burned down a woman's house for this job, man.
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link
that dude dont care!
he just doesn't seem like the kind of guy who can afford to blow up his own car, is what I'm saying
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link
as far as not seeing the ending coming - I was waiting most of the episode for the other shoe to drop, there was no way they were just going to get away with everything unscathed, although I was definitely surprised by the form the payback took.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 17:33 (seven years ago) link
this show is based in cartoon world land i dont think finances enter the picture
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link
didn't he also steal some jewellery from the house?
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
that was Gamby. which at first I thought was some Chekov's gun sorta stuff (since he used it to buy his daughter's horse) but so far it hasn't come back up.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link
yeah I know Gamby gave his to the stables dude, but I thought Russell helped himself too
I think the show has been really good from a plotting perspective (probably the benefit of shooting two seasons all at once) so I'd be surprised if it doesn't come back to haunt in some way
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
Some theories I've seen:- Brown set fire to their cars, and the shooter thing was a coincidence and someone else- The fire/shooter is the other teacher Gamby pissed off, the unhinged one (apparently the shooter had the same boots on?)
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 22 September 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link
I also hadnt fully twigged that Russell is setting Gamby the fuck up, by that conversation at the flagpole where he made it sound like Gamby did everything. He was recording everything with that pen, wasnt he.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 22 September 2016 01:53 (seven years ago) link
Lol i didnt catch that at all! Makes sense tho
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 September 2016 02:42 (seven years ago) link
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Thursday, 22 September 2016 03:17 (seven years ago) link
my favorite part of the last episode was ray's beautiful hand-crafted knife that even neal couldn't totally disregard.
i loved all the twists and turns in the plot and how with one notable exception there are redeemable qualities to all the characters. i assume the second season will hinge on whether russell can be stopped somehow.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 01:45 (seven years ago) link
For reasons I'm not sure of, my other half's been FB friends with Walton Goggins for years (I think he must just add anyone who asks? I dunno). He always used to jokingly invite him to parties we had, and I'd be all "who the fuck is this Goggins dude?". Now I wish we really could get him to show up! He'd be a blast.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 06:10 (seven years ago) link
no love for the new season?
― dynamicinterface, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link
Thanks for the reminder - didn't know!
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link
I feel like this has turned out to be more of a really strange (and intermittently funny) character study a la Observe and Report than the more tightly comic Eastbound & Down but yeah I'm still watching.
Gamby's "Principal-for-a-day" TV speech was funny. Russell's sisters too.
no idea who shot Gamby at this point, I figure eventually he'll get around to solving that mystery lol
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link
damn totally forgot this was back
― flopson, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 03:44 (six years ago) link
Yeah Ive enjoyed its return so far.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 05:47 (six years ago) link
the score is on point
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 06:30 (six years ago) link
i watched like all of S1 on an airplane, it was a delightful surprise
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 10:07 (six years ago) link
funny as fuck is this. Goggins is such a comedy natural, The Shield seems a lifetime ago.
― calzino, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 10:14 (six years ago) link
i agree that it's way more character driven than a straight up comedy. it is hilarious when it wants to be, but the very international changes in tone make it clear it's aiming for more than just more east bound style laughs. i can't wait to see what the pay off is. my money is still on the teacher with the strange attraction to Gamby as the assailant. still don't know what her name is. it took me a minute in the most recent episode to realize that "Seychelles" was James Connor, as they don't really stress any of the tertiary characters names much to my recollection.
― dynamicinterface, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link
ray is the moral centre, dude rules
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 16 October 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link