Well, don't leave us in suspense. What's the next line?
― An Automatic Response To Things That Are Bullshit (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 August 2016 19:58 (nine years ago)
regardless i think 80s fetishism has hit peak and maybe should quietly shuffle off now
I thought about this yesterday as it's the first week back at school and every year there's a poster sale in the middle of campus for all the kids to outfit their dorm rooms. Amongst all the Justin Bieber and videogames I don't know there were a ton of movie posters for Purple Rain, the original Ghostbusters, Back to the Future, Goonies, etc.
Kind of weirded me out because the equivalent nostalgia gap when I was freshman would have meant a bunch of posters for Spartacus, Psycho, West Side Story, Swiss Family Robinson, etc, all of which felt so damn OLD when I was 18.
― joygoat, Friday, 26 August 2016 21:00 (nine years ago)
Anybody buying that shit?
― schwantz, Friday, 26 August 2016 21:02 (nine years ago)
Corey Feldman
― Neanderthal, Friday, 26 August 2016 21:52 (nine years ago)
in the 80's people bought james dean and jack kerouac posters and stuff.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:23 (nine years ago)
i had a jack kerouac t-shirt in the 80s.
i saw corey feldman on a reality show about canadian customs agents recently. he got in canada. close call though. he looked good.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:24 (nine years ago)
at least the whole 50's rockabilly malt shop stuff died out in the 90's. that's one good thing about the 90's anyway. i had to live through 20 years of happy days revisionism.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:26 (nine years ago)
it's been over 20 years of 80's revivalism. it has to end eventually. boys and girls by blur was what, 1994? i think the chilly retro 80's synth stuff is with us forever though. like dixieland and contra dancing.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:30 (nine years ago)
yeah I've been wondering when the 90s were gonna replace the 80s as hip nostalgia ref point for like 10 years now
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:35 (nine years ago)
the 90's has been hip!
― scott seward, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:36 (nine years ago)
― scott seward, Friday, August 26, 2016 6:26 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kemivUKb4f4
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:40 (nine years ago)
what, the diner dance scene from Pulp Fiction wasn't good enough for you
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:41 (nine years ago)
isolated incidents! the 90's went straight to the 40's and never looked back.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:43 (nine years ago)
I agree w you actually (70s nostalgia was the thing in the 90s)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:44 (nine years ago)
Right, and "Buddy Holly" was nostalgia for the 70s' nostalgia for the 50s
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:45 (nine years ago)
I don't think the 90s are ever going to be a cultural ground zero like the 80s (or the 60s) are for a lot of people. Like the 70s, the 90s strike me as building on (or reacting against) stuff that happened in the previous decade -- tbh, I always thought the 90s were cooler than the 80s, but too much happened in the 80s that affected (and in a lot of ways invented) modern life as we know it.
Not to say you can't have nostalgia, but I think it ends there for the 90s. IMO the 80s is "important" to a lot of people in a way that the 90s just aren't.
― Dominique, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:46 (nine years ago)
http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=29284019
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:47 (nine years ago)
building on (or reacting against) stuff that happened in the previous decade
come on, this is every decade
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:53 (nine years ago)
90s is peak rap, dawn of the internet, raves, the Simpsons, Tarantino, blah blah blah
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:54 (nine years ago)
it is, but I mean to say that a large part of its identity is building on things that began in the 70s. Which is different than my perception of the 60s, which is that it destroyed and completely rebuilt things from the 50s and earlier. Paradigm shift? That's pretentious, but you know what I mean. I don't really see the same kind of shift in the 70s or the 90s -- both decades seem transitional to me (as much as, like I say, I personally relate to those decades more than 60s/80s overall).
― Dominique, Friday, 26 August 2016 22:58 (nine years ago)
yeah, but "rap" as a phenomenon was essentially 80s-birthed (yes, I realize its roots were in the 70s, but culturally speaking, it wasn't a force until the 80s). Simpsons started in the 80s! Raves played a kind of music that, again tho actually w/roots in the 70s, didn't really happen until the 80s. I guess you are saying the events themselves are an enduring artifact of the 90s? Maybe so, in the same way festival rock concerts are (tho of course Woodstock).
Tarantino is a good example of a 90s phenomenon -- though I would argue his kind of art, that of reference (and even self-reference) and synthesis of previous works/styles is not something that began in the 90s. Not saying 90s didn't have awesome art or things that endure in our lives, I'm saying it doesn't seem to have left a cultural imprint on today in the same way the 80s did.
― Dominique, Friday, 26 August 2016 23:07 (nine years ago)
i'm kinda good with 1964 to 1984. like if i had to live on it. i could live on it. wait, i kinda do...
i mean its infinite as far as art goes. 20 years!
― scott seward, Friday, 26 August 2016 23:25 (nine years ago)
I can't wait for '30s nostalgia towards the '10s' reappropriation of the '80s.
― An Automatic Response To Things That Are Bullshit (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 August 2016 23:32 (nine years ago)
Guys, '90s revival is definitely a thing in the '10s.
― emil.y, Saturday, 27 August 2016 00:14 (nine years ago)
Seinfeld, old Simpsons, King of the Hill, X-Files, Twin Peaks, Windows 95 aesthetics very much a part of the hip yooth lexicon these days, yeah.
― circa1916, Saturday, 27 August 2016 00:26 (nine years ago)
Celph Titled centered a whole album around it
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 27 August 2016 00:27 (nine years ago)
Misspelling words like "yooth" also part of it too tbh
xp to self
― circa1916, Saturday, 27 August 2016 00:29 (nine years ago)
Right, unlike most decade revivals where one replaces the last, the 80s and 90s revivals have been coexisting in equal measure for at least the last five years, if not longer.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 27 August 2016 00:31 (nine years ago)
in just two years we will get the massive 20th anniversary of electroclash oral history on Pitchfork.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 August 2016 00:34 (nine years ago)
Thing is 90s nostalgia is still relatively vanguard while we've hit near mainstream peak with the 80s stuff thanks to Stranger Things and the onslaught of the neon/lazer/Miami Vice element over the past several years. 80s stuff's still got a good few more years before 90s kids get the money to make movies and TV shows and then repeat cycle.
― circa1916, Saturday, 27 August 2016 00:57 (nine years ago)
Guy I work with is 23, former Rhymesayers intern and is obsessed with Seinfeld, has a Kramer bobblehead on his desk
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 27 August 2016 01:05 (nine years ago)
I experienced all but 11 months of the 80s and im having 80s nostalgia of the Miami Vice-esque variety these days cos im sad i never got to gun run, do coke, and get in car chases as a kid
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 27 August 2016 01:42 (nine years ago)
That didnt happen til the 00s
Everytime I go out I'm forced into a conversation about this show and I'm looking forward to that not happening anymore.
― circa1916, Saturday, 27 August 2016 03:46 (nine years ago)
Also I'm gonna say that I think ET captures the profound strangeness of confused childhood better than any movie ever and that's part of my hostility towards this thing that does the motions but misses the spirit.
― circa1916, Saturday, 27 August 2016 04:05 (nine years ago)
Wah
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 27 August 2016 05:51 (nine years ago)
emily otm. carbon copies and outright covers of 90s house tracks have been all over the charts for like 4 years now. craig david's back! and acts like little mix doing straight up TLC jams. i agree that cold 80s synths will always be with us. also agree about how 80s and 90s revivalism are running in parallel.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 27 August 2016 08:01 (nine years ago)
at least the whole 50's rockabilly malt shop stuff died out in the 90's
There's still a huge rockabilly/"pin up girl" subculture thing going on. Pinterest and Instagram are full of that shit.
― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Saturday, 27 August 2016 13:50 (nine years ago)
i think scott meant as a mainstream thing. stray cats, levi's ads with big 50s cars in them. happy days ffs. these days if the mainstream goes back to a pre sexual revolution era it's the early 60s they're in love with for some reason.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 27 August 2016 13:54 (nine years ago)
lotta overlap there though - American Graffiti is set in '62 for example. But yeah, you wouldn't know that from the characterizations of the "Mad Men Era." Maybe a matter of urban vs. suburban early 60s or something.
― Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 27 August 2016 13:56 (nine years ago)
90's revival is real & monolithic atm. department stores women's sections are full of ugly plaid & crotcheted 90's via 70's cardigans & horrific leather trimmed floral print backpacks
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:07 (nine years ago)
also i keep hearing all this new music at the coffee shop that sounds like Hole. some of it is Courtney Barnett, I think, but not all of it. plus a teenage band called Snail Mail that sounds very Matador/Kill Rock Stars i think. they sound pretty good!
― Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:14 (nine years ago)
so many Matador-esque guitar bands out there.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:32 (nine years ago)
i feel like all of them played at my store last year...
This was so much fun, you guys! Although I am REALLY MAD that they played that fucking Moby song at the end and now the lyrics are stuck in my head, ugggh god. When it's Moby I'd like to die.
I loved the one-month-later D&D scene when Dustin complains about the campaign being too short and not making any sense.Then he goes "What about the lost knight and the proud princess and those flowers in the cave?" and I'm not sure they could have laid it on any thicker. Everything in this show was exactly dumb and serious enough and not a bit more, and they didn't try to be overly clever with any of it. This is (somehow) a huge advantage in 2016 boutique television!
I really loved David Harbour in this. Very Raylan.
― Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:09 (nine years ago)
Everything in this show was exactly dumb and serious enough and not a bit more, and they didn't try to be overly clever with any of it. This is (somehow) a huge advantage in 2016 boutique television!
Some tv makers learned from the lesson of LOST and others did not.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:56 (nine years ago)
i feel like more shows are better at the whole beginning/middle/end thing now.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 03:00 (nine years ago)
like, if netflix were insane and decided not to give it another season it would still be a satisfying experience. and i see more shows like that. they leave an opening for more but they know its not a given that there will be more.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 03:03 (nine years ago)
I wish someone would convince Amy Sherman-Palladino of that. Like, yeah, I'm still mad ABC Family didn't continue Bunheads past one season, but I'm VERY mad at AS-P for leaving everything hanging on a show that was never guaranteed and invitation back for year two.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 03:09 (nine years ago)