hey gawker dudes. what the fuck is wrong with you?

Wonkette had some good material after Cox left but imo lost its distinctive voice. They went from starting in 2004 to AMC leaving in 2006 to being sold in 2008!

oh don. grudges are so gauche.

I didn't realize Fleshbot was actually only the third franchise ever in the Gawker canon.

lol xp

Let's not confuse grudges with disappointment, Maura. Many people (myself included!) wanted Idolator to succeed--you were a key asset to that mission and I hated to see you go.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqtpN_KXEAI8jWs.jpg:small

important feedback

kinda thought that dude was dead or had changed his name or something; refusing to google to test that theory tho

Maura, you once linked to an article I wrote, which helped me not get fired during a dicey period! Belated thanks!

hey good to hear! i've definitely been in that situation.

Valleywag never had enough eyeballs to last--the tech industry's overinflated view of itself has never translated into truly interesting gossip. It might seem odd that an industry with so much depth reporting really hasn't managed to put even one readable tech gossip site on the map.

there's the register. not a drop-in replacement: takes a longer view, more technical definition of "tech", less exclusively focussed on SV business/culture/macroeconomics, but at least as skeptical at its best

My increasing suspicion that the Concourse on Deadspin is going to be a crypto-Gawker is getting rapidly verified, not least because HamNo just had a piece go up there.

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/

heh, i was just coming here to make pretty much the same post

lol yup http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/a-salute-to-john-bogle-a-real-fucking-peoples-hero-1786003350

http://gizmodo.com/univision-executives-vote-to-delete-six-gawker-media-po-1786466510

your revolution is over, mr. lebowsky -- condolences!

Mitch Williams' honor is saved

an interview btwn Gawker and Univision's chief news officer abt the recently-deleted posts (a v good read imo):

http://gizmodo.com/a-very-long-conversation-with-univision-s-isaac-lee-abo-1786525296

Well that's one way to get the content of a couple of posts back up:

http://deadspin.com/why-was-mitch-williams-fired-from-mlb-network-why-is-h-1786498406

Just some court docs here

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL

the logic of the interview was interesting. it's understandable to dig into the details, but the jist I got out of it was:
- the aquisition legal people were different, had a team to break the whole thing into assets/liabilities columns
- they, being lawyers, decided any post that had anything to do with litigation, settled or not, was a liability
- they passed on the "delete all liabilities" message (gawker.com was the main "liability" and the handful of posts got thrown on the same trash heap

so there was no judgment on the actual journalistic merits of the posts or whatever else, it's as if someone was suing them about a soda machine in the lobby and the legal best practice is "get rid of the soda machine" regardless of whether the lawsuit was stupid

if the content is fine under the new regime then go ahead and publish, it's not the same asset anymore. lol.

i had never heard that story about Williams!

tbf he sounds like half of the parents who coached little league when I was a kid

https://gawken.com/

poor man's racket teen

https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/21/gawker-media-has-been-renamed-gizmodo-media-group/

the unkindest cut

that's some sad-ass kinja

Kotaku-Lifehacker Holdings LLC

i trust 'sploid media group' was give due attention before the final decision was made

'Sploid' will never not sound like slang for a prolapse to my ears.

Scrubbed Husk media was my vote

Dog Media already taken by nabisco

Cuckmedia

'sup my cucksters

https://longform.org/posts/longform-podcast-213-a-j-daulerio

The "God, none of you *babies* understands True Journalism" tone is still strong in the Hamilton Nolan article that TNC talks about here:

http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/10/on-the-right-to-know/502916/

Though in fairness Nolan's not defending public interest based on what the public considers important, but on the journalist's mystic sense of Importance. On the other hand, this doesn't make anything he's saying any better.

on the supposed right to know everything for voyeuristic concerns

The public interest in the contours of Hulk Hogan's ballsack.

Do you think it's wrinkly or has he botoxed the boys?

Probably smooth and weirdly oily and mostly hairless except for a long shank of blond pubes hanging from the back, with a tiny Hulkamania bandana tied neatly just below the shaft.

The weird disconnect is that they say 1) If a person becomes famous through just doing their job, then journalists are allowed to fuck up their lives for no reason, but 2) whenever they're criticized for acting like assholes, they say 'I was just doing my job'. Well, yeah, and in the course of doing your job, you became an asshole, so naturally we treat you like that. Many journalists weirdly think that the public should admire them, even though it's their stated purpose to fuck up the life of any member of the public with the bad fortune to be extraordinary good at their jobs.

At times I feel good that journalism is dying.

The very general proposition of journalism is this: The public has a right to know true things that are important to the public. It is the job of journalists to supply the public with these true things.

"right to know" is a hilarious line of bullshit that Nolan uses to do whatever he thinks is important to the public. If you are somehow a journalist, then of course you will know what is important "to the public."

The arguments about Ferrante and Hogan really get tangled up in a messy Venn diagram of "important to the publuc interest," "legal," "ethical" and "dick move" that makes all conversation about them very annoying very fast

*public

*pubic

how does Hamilton Nolan have a job?

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/chobani-sucks-1787493904

He does harp on a bit about it, but I think he's right. I switched to Fage.

http://gawker.com/tag/chobani

that whole gawker philosophy seems so high school journalism class to me, like it doesn't even acknowledge that the ethics of reporting can sometimes be more complicated than "always tell the truth." Coates says it a lot better than i ever could in his last couple paragraphs of course.

that's kind of my take, I never quite get it but the ideal seems to be that journalism is an end in itself. seems like it would follow from the inner ring of the enterprise always being writing facing inward toward journalism and journalists

coming from software development where a significant number of people are more invested in programming the best rather than solving other problems via programming, it isn't unnatural