these kids have the best look for the period under discussion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eESdC_MqRbI
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
quiet you, and where's that Capris Sun I ordered!!!
― Dominique, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
oops. right. no video. and yeah with that i'll stop gen x memory lane. sorry.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link
Was it ET that had the ridiculous VHS release delay? Like it didn't come out until the late '80s or something?
Yeah, I think you're right! It took a very long time for that to come out, even as a rental.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link
(although that video was the 145 Tron episode of Starcade on Youtube. great viewing material.)
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
Voyagers was great RIP John Eric Hexum
the one sf show I have fond memories of that seems totally lost to time was about a family getting lost in an alternate dimension
xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
Veg otm.
― how's life, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
and no I am not referring to Land of the Lost
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
Otherworld! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088587/
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
honestly, i didn't really feel that nostalgic watching Stranger Things until AFTER i had watched it and everyone started talking about it. i just liked the characters and the story. i was on the edge of my seat! i didn't really think about movie posters or whatever. the music stuff i noticed but i shrugged it off. like Television. i'm so sure he was listening to Television. but that was about it.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link
i mean even the original music in the show just reminded me of NEW 80'S-inspired stuff. not old stuff. it sounded current.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link
(on the starcade t.v. show you won really cool prizes...)
https://i1.wp.com/www.retrocrush.com/archive2/dragonslair/bionicchair.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link
I remember the host of Starcade was named Geoff, but it sounded like "Jeff" and I thought that was weird.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, very much The 80's as seen through a hip-ish, modern lens i.e. all the "right" movie posters, synthwave soundtrack, Smiths/Television/Joy Division/New Order refs, etc.
xxp
― circa1916, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
which i guess is a fair way to play this, but it just added to the ersatz feeling that really pushed me out of it
― circa1916, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link
Jonathan was the only hip-ish, modern lens character in the series. I agree that some of the pre-recorded music choices were too clever, but I bought a lot of the original interstitial music being period-correct.
White kids in an Indiana town would've been playing Johnny Cougs and Rick Springfield and Journey.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link
And Zeppelin and AC/DC
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link
And the Smiths and Joy Division. And REO Speedwagon. And Styx. And the Housemartins, probably.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link
It's interesting that both Poltergeist and E.T. had their origins in Speilberg's what if the aliens were evil Close Encounters sequel Night Skies. Stephen King was originally supposed to write Poltergeist too.
it's a rich tapestry
― Number None, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link
is there a good critical book about spielberg? i might read one. though i'm scared to read most film writing. something about the psychology of his movies would be interesting to me. war of the worlds is the only more-recent movie of his that i loved and it's the only recent one i've seen that brought me back in time to the movies i loved of his when i was a kid. if you don't count things he has produced like Super 8.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link
his grown-up movies don't thrill me so much. the last movie of his before war of the worlds that i really liked was probably empire of the sun.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link
Empire of the Sun works great if you turn off the sound - John Williams' score ruins it
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link
I was really high on both Minority Report and Munich at the time they came out, but I haven't watched either in a number of years. Wonder how well they hold up.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link
both trash iirc
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link
Minority Report is garbage
I've never sat through Munich cuz idk the subject matter, I don't trust Spielberg to deal w it well it would probably just make me angry
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link
Munich is great, Minority Report is the "Temple of Doom" to War of the World's "Raiders."
― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:35 (seven years ago) link
all the cyber-blackboard shit in minority report was just some of the stupidest shit i'd ever seen in a movie so i never finished it. Hook is still by far my least fave of his though. i was profoundly offended by that movie. made me want to throw up.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link
Now we're way way waaaaay off topic, but after the shootings at the beginning of Munich, it becomes more like Ronin in that a squad of talented ops people is assembled and they start hunting people down one by one. I guess it was based loosely on a true story? But in actuality the backdrop could've been anything.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link
haha, the Greater Cleveland Film Commission is about to host an anniversary screening of "Hook," with a panel of a bunch of the now-grown-up kids from the movie, and keeps sending me invites. "Should I go see this screening of my least-fave Spielberg movie? Hmmmmmmm."
― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link
xp the scene in Munich where they track down and kill the honeypot Dutch assassin -- going way off mission for a personal vendetta -- is one of the most bleak things Spielberg has ever committed to movie, as disturbing as anything in Schindler's List.
― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/7ochYhd.jpg
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/KingImpulse/status/765671532563693570https://twitter.com/AmyDentata/status/765675295638552576
― Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/TheTomasRios/status/765661242442866689
― goole, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link
meanwhile, if spielberg discussion needs a home:
Steven Spielberg - classic or dudBest Steven Spielberg filmSteven Spielberg post-1993: Vote for the best
― Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link
The musical cues are off because the Duffer Bros werent even born when this was set and young people now think the 80s was hipper than it was.
That said, in 83 I was happily listening to very early (arty-era) Spandau, Visage and stuff, and I lived in a country town.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 23:15 (seven years ago) link
hate to make the obvious point but perhaps they weren't aiming for verisimilitude and accuracy and trying to reflect what small town Hoosiers would've watched/listened to at that time, but rather put in musical cues and references to movies that are from the 80s that they think are cool
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 23:24 (seven years ago) link
reading modern american crime/detective novels the last few years and those guys are ALWAYS putting in references to their favorite blues/rock/whatever artists that no detective/cop would ever listen to.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link
^^^yes. It can be quite irritating.
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 23:37 (seven years ago) link
i blame stephen king. to bring things full circle again.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 23:57 (seven years ago) link
bruce springsteen owes him a debt of gratitude
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 01:00 (seven years ago) link
King owes springsteen
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link
what kind of music do detectives listen to
― Mordy, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 01:14 (seven years ago) link
Whatever George Pelacanos does
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 01:17 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfAv8yAaHps
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 01:24 (seven years ago) link
https ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfAv8yAaHps
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 01:25 (seven years ago) link
i like these john sandford books and these guys in the middle of nowhere in minnesota sit around talking about guy clark and townes van zandt and i find it a little hard to believe. i mean, these crime novels are often idealized tough guy alter-ego projection fantasies for people who look like they hang out with my dad. and also my dad. and now me. but its cool. i like guy clark.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 01:34 (seven years ago) link
you know i get why people are latching on to the character of barb from this but also i don't get it? she's in like two scenes and then she dies.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link
i'm here to say ... barb is overrated (deal with it sunglasses on the demogorgon)
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link
i'm the true iconoclast of mild stranger things fandom
https://www.buzzfeed.com/matwhitehead/barbyonce
fuck this
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link