A thread for Stranger Things, the "Goonies meets X-Files" new Netflix series (with SPOILERS!)

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Great info. Yeah, ultimately it's a pretty harmless shorthand, plus obviously a shoutout to a movie that they like, but it might have been cool for them to go another step further in the set-dressing of "what would they REALLY have had on their walls"? Oh well. I think it's a testament to the generally high quality of the props/sets/costumes that the ones that feel a little forced stick out, as opposed to a show where everything just kinda feels fake and forced.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 03:47 (nine years ago)

he totally could have gotten posters from a friend who worked at the movie theater. maybe he even worked at the movie theater. everyone knew someone who worked at the movie theater.

my best friend in high school had a huge horror movie poster collection in the early 80's, but he was freaky and obsessive like me. this is his website:

http://www.kindertrauma.com/

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 03:52 (nine years ago)

he wrote about stranger things too:

http://www.kindertrauma.com/?p=39014#more-39014

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 03:53 (nine years ago)

Your friend's website is super fun, I like his take on the show too.

Let's just say the temporal inconsistencies in the show are a tribute to the extended version of The Stand.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 06:50 (nine years ago)

Wasn't the A/V teacher watching The Thing on VHS in that one scene?

Apparently, The Thing premiered in theaters the same day as Blade Runner and wasn't a huge box office smash, but gained a cult following not long afterwards due to VHS and video rental stores, which were common by 1983. A lot of rental stores - or at least the ones in my town - sold movie posters.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 07:39 (nine years ago)

Some thoughts on subsequent seasons from Matt Duffer here:

http://screenrant.com/stranger-things-season-2-harry-potter/

groovypanda, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 09:11 (nine years ago)

I mean, we shouldn't pretend we don't all really enjoy spotting inconsistencies in things. It's a plus in my opinion.

two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 12:01 (nine years ago)

What I mean is, I've had many more conversations about 8th music and film because of the flaws than I would have if it had been perfect.

two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 12:03 (nine years ago)

8th = 80s. Damned temp phone.

two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 12:03 (nine years ago)

I love Kindertrauma. That and Everything Is Terrible are probably the websites I refer people to the most.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 12:29 (nine years ago)

ET, Blade Runner and The Thing opened up more or less the same week, which is one theory as to why the latter two did not do so well. Obviously they and ET are all masterpieces, but ET's pretty upbeat compared to those others. (Other famed summer of '82 fantasy/sci-fi/genre highlights were Poltergeist, Star Trek 2, Conan the Barbarian and the Road Warrior.)

Oh, along with Goonies and X-Files, John Carpenter is another comparison I just don't get in this case. Even the score is way more Tangerine Dream than Carpenter (with one other cue that sounds like SAWII-era Aphex Twin). Stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftckgVqc04E

So yeah, another episode down, and I still get overwhelming Stephen King - It, The Body/Stand By Me, the whole general vibe, including the batshit premise (at least as I understand it). I've never been a fan of long-form King, preferring his short stories, because like this show I thought his novels always felt way padded out by melodrama. What Stranger Things has going for it is definitely the cast and production values, which are largely a lot better than the cruddy King adaptations that got churned out.

Speaking of Tangerine Dream and Stephen King, I forgot about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQAf57MGPm4

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 12:41 (nine years ago)

i made my dad take me to see blade runner when it came out and i remember raving about it afterward to people and nobody i knew had seen it. i felt so all alone with my blade runner love. until i became friends with mr. kindertrauma in 1983. sometimes there really was just one other kid back then.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 13:11 (nine years ago)

(the first tangerine dream music i ever heard was the soundtrack to Thief. i bought the LP at Caldor after seeing the movie with my dad in 1981.)

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 13:15 (nine years ago)

still get overwhelming Stephen King - It, The Body/Stand By Me

agree with this, the Spielberg comparisons seem mostly off to me. The only real connection to them is the kids, but mood wasn't as lighthearted as a Spielberg flick would be -- it wasn't a thrilling adventure offset with comedy and tear-jerky moments. It was mostly an eerie show where something dark was always close behind anything fun/lighthearted.

Dominique, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 13:47 (nine years ago)

The Spielbergianism was mostly in the staging and shots imo. There was one particular tracking shot in the kids' classroom that felt like a pretty deliberate homage to similar shots in ET.

H.R. Giggles (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 13:51 (nine years ago)

I can see that, and there were a few misty lens-flare kind of shots that reminded me of his lighting circa Close Encounters, Raiders

Dominique, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 13:54 (nine years ago)

you guys all liked Super 8, right?

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 14:02 (nine years ago)

god no

circa1916, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 14:03 (nine years ago)

I liked super 8. Not as much as this show though.

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 14:05 (nine years ago)

i've been watching Freaks and Geeks with my kids and i think Millie might be my all time fave Barb. though i'll always be fond of Betty Finn from Heathers too.

i also forgot about the vaguely Nirvana-ish incidental music on F&G.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 14:07 (nine years ago)

i liked Super 8 a lot.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 14:07 (nine years ago)

was the main kid supposed to look like sam weir t/n

self-clowning cozen of ILX (cozen), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 14:12 (nine years ago)

also i like how all of the attractive ppl are attractive in a Canadian public television /Degrassi Jr High kind of way where they still look like ppl you kinda know irl

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, August 15, 2016 3:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The setting was a bit earlier, but something about the kids in this kept reminding me very specifically of the kids on Fifteen (aka Hillside). There was definitely at least one Barb on that show.

H.R. Giggles (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 14:13 (nine years ago)

I enjoyed Super 8, but it felt a lot more derivative and generic than Stranger Things (I can't remember a single performance, for example,).

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 14:30 (nine years ago)

The thing I don't get about this show is all the supernatural stuff. I mean, did you really get telekinetic girls running around breaking people's necks back in 1983?

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:05 (nine years ago)

yeah it was a thing

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:06 (nine years ago)

It happens when your mom takes government LSD.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:07 (nine years ago)

We had a dark dimension portal in our basement but it was covered in Shirt Tales stickers.

H.R. Giggles (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:08 (nine years ago)

Telekinetic Girls opened the last DNA show in '83

Dominique, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:09 (nine years ago)

xp LOL I loved Shirt Tales

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:10 (nine years ago)

Shirt Tales and Get Along Gang were my favorite greeting card-based cartoons when I was 5.

how's life, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:14 (nine years ago)

took till at least '88 for telekinetics to get to the UK

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:18 (nine years ago)

Greeting card-based cartoons have really gone downhill lately. Two Oiled Beefcakes Who Are Barely Obscuring Their Genitals is kind of amusing but I'm uncomfortable letting my kids watch it.

H.R. Giggles (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:19 (nine years ago)

The thing I don't get about this show is all the supernatural stuff. I mean, did you really get telekinetic girls running around breaking people's necks back in 1983?

Carrie 1974/1976
Escape to Witch Mountain 1975
The Fury 1978
Firestarter 1980/1984
Modern Problems 1981
Scanners 1981
Zapped 1982

Totally era appropriate!

Some Phantasm vibes in this one, too.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:26 (nine years ago)

the difference is in 1982 they used telekinetic powers to lift girl's sweaters

Dominique, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:29 (nine years ago)

Times were different then.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:30 (nine years ago)

this has also brought to mind radical projectile vomiting stunts, and for that, I thank you

Dominique, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:32 (nine years ago)

I think the telekinesis trend was a tamer version of the being-possessed-by-the-devil trend from the mid-70s.

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:36 (nine years ago)

Super 8 was on TV just after I finished this, I liked it but didn't feel as invested in the kids, honestly. I think TV series pacing was better for me to get to know them as characters rather than tropes.

Also I <3 <3 <3 the Kindertrauma website, so cool that you know the guy, scott.

emil.y, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:39 (nine years ago)

I saw Super 8 in the theater, but I haven't watched it since. All I really remember is that it was Elle Fanning's first role of import and that the monster was a letdown.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:43 (nine years ago)

http://caveofcult.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/JENN.jpg

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:05 (nine years ago)

Is that Tom Jones?

There is also Argento's Phenomena, where Jennifer Connolly controls bugs.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:08 (nine years ago)

looks more like Bert Convy

Dominique, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:13 (nine years ago)

That's Convy hair if ever I've seen it.

H.R. Giggles (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:22 (nine years ago)

Don't forget the Australian psychic powers movie Dark Forces, also of that era

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:25 (nine years ago)

It was a golden age of thin wires pulling hair dryers through the air

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:28 (nine years ago)

i can't believe that E.T. and Poltergeist came out almost at the same time. what a double whammy. Poltergeist obliterated me in June of 1982.

i also can't believe i saw those movies AND blade runner in the same month.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:37 (nine years ago)

yeah, same with Close Encounters and Star Wars only months apart. And SW was so big, there is a hidden reference to it in CE!

Dominique, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:39 (nine years ago)

See also: Ghostbusters and Gremlins released the same day, American Werewolf, Howling, and Wolfen all released the same year.

H.R. Giggles (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:44 (nine years ago)

('84 in general, though...like, you could delete all of the other years of that decade from existence and you'd still basically have a precise encapsulation of resonant '80s cinematic pop culture.)

H.R. Giggles (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:46 (nine years ago)


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