Things You Just Don't Care About

Or sharks. Sharks would make quick work of him I bet.

(Actually FTR, for me, the jingoism is way ridic - national medal count as a proxy for national penis size. Much of which is leftover Cold War stuff.)

(Plus the insipid valorizing of international harmony and coming together and whatnot. Bullshit. They are coming together only to compete, and hopefully to annihilate some other poor schmuck, to demonstrate dominance over him or her. For USA to be #1 someone else needs to be #2 and so on.)

(Please show me instead a huge event where people come together to cooperate, to work together on like maybe feeding some hungry people or building some houses for people without them. I'd get much more teary-eyed over that than somebody's struggle to throw a thing faster than other people can throw it or whatever.)

And here I am being That Guy, and so I need to shut it. Carry on.

Don't get all the fuss over @TheEllenShow 's tweet abt #UsainBolt? Maybe this will help:

DJ Khaled. Who is this man. Why he famous

see there, rip? you've already played yourself.

The Lena Dunham/Odell Beckham twissue that's making the rounds right now.

Lena Dunham bragged about grooming and sexually abusing her little sister in her memoir. The fact that she's still in public consciousness is probably more interesting/sadder to me.

meh

my eyes glaze over when i see her name. i don't even know what happened. some kind of thing. i'm almost amazed at myself by how much i don't care.

I don't understand why she is so famous and I also don't understand why people care so much about every little annoying and self-involved thing she says.

It's a culture thing. The people calling these shots are the same sorts-of people who'd rape and murder your family for fun and profit if they could get away with it. Money and power don't exactly attract the most decent people out there. Lena Dunham's one of them, and she's just out there in the open about her contempt for all human life except her own. That's the only explanation I can find.

I imagine people are annoyed because most people find her and what she represents completely reprehensible, yet she's shoved down our throats by decision makers who identify with her shittiness. Then people go along with it because people identify with it too because they're scumbags, or just follow the leader without much thought.

idk, maybe. But I also don't really understand the obsession with extracting apologies from her.

A hope that the world isn't as horrible as it really is?

Lena Dunham bragged about grooming and sexually abusing her little sister in her memoir

holy shit, wtf?

not the most sympathetic reading of that narrative tbf

As she grew, I took to bribing her time and affection: one dollar in quarters if I could do her makeup like a "motorcycle chick." Three pieces of candy if I could kiss her on the lips for five seconds. Whatever she wanted to watch on TV if she would just "relax on me." Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl, I was trying. Maybe, I thought, she would be more willing to accept kisses if I wore the face mask my grandmother had for when she did her dialysis. (The answer was no.) What I really wanted, beyond affection, was to feel that she needed me, that she was helpless without her big sister leading her through the world. I took a perverse pleasure in delivering bad news to her—the death of our grandfather, a fire across the street—hoping that her fear would drive her into my arms, would make her trust me.

Then later she talks about manipulating her sister to sleep next to her while she described her sister's sweaty body writhing around her while she masturbated to it. As a regular occurrence. At 17 years old. And she was proud about it. Not to mention all of the other sexual things she described doing to her sister.

As a victim of sexual abuse when I was a kid this is pretty close to how it went down with me. So no, I don't have the most sympathetic reading of this, cuz it's like reading my own life from the eyes of the predator and then seeing people defend it, and the powers that be accept it. And just like her sister, I said "yeah, it was all cool!" Until I got the balls to stand up for myself, which caused a shit storm that I don't blame her sister for not wanting in her life.

People will defend shit like this to the high heavens because it suits their own interests. Throw the tortured bodies overboard, ignore it all, because it satisfies my own need. Then they turn around and talk about love and family and community as the most important things in life right out of the other side of their mouths. Fuck that. Human beings are scum, imo.

The Paralympics.

i was more offended by this gem from the interview:

The troubling imagery doubles down later in the interview, when Dunham and Schumer discuss Mayci Breaux and Jillian Johnson, two women who were murdered in a movie theater during a Trainwreck screening. To emphasize the real tragedy of their deaths, Schumer invokes this tired old trope:

And it just so happens that they were two of the sweetest angels who have ever lived, you know? It is never some toothless fucking crackhead who gets killed.

Wow barf

Dunham is kind of to media what Rubio is to politics, overestimated and beloved by a tiny elite minority, and also much more awful than the veneer suggests.

dunham's whole deal is portraying herself in the worst possible light, like god i'm so awful, i know i know. but then, even reading through that, she's awful.

yeah, I'm all in favor of making light of norms and finding humor in the "whoa, all this crazy fucked-up stuff happens" aspect of life but sometimes you need to realize some stuff genuinely is fucked up and writing about it in that way is not helpful

i'm fine with her being the generational celeb face of Clinton's prez campaign; richly deserved

i'm reaaally skeptical of the 'grooming' charge about her. but past that it's like, you don't get to air out all the weird details (which everyone has!) about someone else's childhood under the guise of being super uncomfortably transparent about your own.

she had said that she only wrote about that stuff with her sister's explicit permission tbf?

alas HRC has been using Cher the most, bcz her old gay donors relate more
xxp

LD takes that 'everything is copy' dictum to yucky heights

xp

didn't know that. still...

I have a kind of sneaking admiration for unremitting soul-baring but that might be a feeb way of justifying my own darkness as universal

xp yeah the Dunham "sexual abuse" stuff I'm a little on the fence about, largely because (1) her sister has publicly said she does not think she was abused and even thought it was "funny" that people claimed as much, or something and (2) I think she is probably employing hyperbole in the book. That said, sort of in line with goole's point, she was clueless and assholish enough to think that employing hyperbole in that context was a great and funny idea, which almost makes me wonder if she is clueless and assholish enough to have actually abused her sister and not recognize it as such.

That's some spiral you're in there

maybe they're just all mutually-abusive jerks

brb sending them ilx invites

Feel bad for all you who get Lena Dunham shoved down your throats. All I've ever seen of her is like 90 seconds as the barista in Ti West's "The Innkeepers" and have somehow managed to avoid everything else ever.

That's 90 seconds more than me.

Feel bad for all you who get Lena Dunham shoved down your throats.

Well, it's not like I'm her sister or anything.

Had to be done.

Had no idea she was in The Innkeepers. But I probably seen it before I was aware of her.

Lena Dunham as Barista. Fairly sure that's not that big a part.

i like girls, thought that tiny furniture was meh. had managed, until this thread, to completely ignore the lena dunham and her sister stuff. pretty o_0 for sure

girls

do you not care about the tv series or girls in general

I'm guessing his answer is "yes"

(1) her sister has publicly said she does not think she was abused and even thought it was "funny" that people claimed as much

I don't think this is great evidence to show her sister wasn't abused. It's one of the most common responses to these situations to say everything was OK, and even adults do it. So to make a decision whether or not Lena did abuse her, this is not something to go on.

It's a murky area, and it all depends on whether or not grooming your underage sister to sexually exploit her, which are admitted facts, counts as sexual abuse. Because this is the standard that's going to be applied to other cases, too.

apple product releases

poorly formed joeks about apple product releases

It's a murky area, and it all depends on whether or not grooming your underage sister to sexually exploit her, which are admitted facts, counts as sexual abuse. Because this is the standard that's going to be applied to other cases, too.

u are deranged nothing written in a memoir - specifically created to "be funny" + sell books - is an "admitted fact", much less the basis for legal standards

It's not about prosecuting Dunham, but about what people on here, and elsewhere, are accepting as normal. Apparently you and man alive are OK with what Dunham did to her sister, because her sister considered it OK. So as long as a child considers it OK, it's fine to groom and manipulate them so that you can masturbate next to them in bed.

Now that's something I consider deranged.

idk what dunham did to her sister and neither do you

like omg celebrity whose celebrity is built around being provocative wrote some deliberately provocative shit in her "memoir" as clickbait/joeks/plea for attention. it is not a factual or reliable narrative.

It's about what standards we're willing to accept in society. People giving a pass on Dunham's stated behavior, even if it's 100% completely untrue, still has a potentially negative effect of normalizing it, which can harm a lot of people.

I know all good aspirational people want to rally behind wealthy and influential people like Dunham, but this is pretty bad.

if lena and her sister are both in general accord on the outline of the story, then it considerably strengthens the presumption that it is broadly correct.

your faith in attention-seeking celebrities is remarkable