The Suicide Squad Film Follies

Killer Cric tho, I feel his pain

In caps it makes me think we are talking about RealDolls itt

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/654/medium/1980_Diff_rent_Strokes_Grady_Real_People_Whitman_Mayo_NBC_Tv_Guide_Ad.JPG

love 2 relate

hoo boy this is a real lumpy, ugly mess of a movie. they seem to have butchered the second act almost to nothing and what's left makes very little sense. there's a fun metagame in watching jai courtney's hair and beard change length and style from scene to scene - i guess they stopped giving a fuck about continuity once the reshoots started?

it feels like they left a lot of jared leto on the cutting-room floor but he manages to be catastrophically poor in the scenes which survive. he's ACTING SO HARD it's embarrassing to watch.

i liked killer croc's makeup tho!

yeah I don't get the "Jared's a great joker, he just didn't get much to do" line, I mean the latter is certainly true, but he seems to be doing actor karaoke most of the time, imitations of past Jokers in a gumbo rather than bringing any real personality to it

can't believe this takes place in the fight club universe and the joker is the guy who was beat to shit by ed norton

god bless poor jai courtney, the man cursed with hollywood's most forgettable face - i've seen him in like four movies by this point but i still couldn't pick him out of a lineup of five moderately handsome white guys if you gave me three chances

lol he doesn't help by being so devoid of charisma

the twitter joke of tagging things with tom hardy's name, since the role was obviously created as "a tom hardy type," is good

i enjoyed the part where a bunch of non-powered humans armed with guns, a sword and a baseball bat managed to defeat an immensely powerful witch from another dimension

also the part in the bar where will smith ruefully laments that they were so close to completing their mission and the audience shuffles their feet and mutters 'what the fuck was your mission supposed to be again?'

recouping production costs iirc

i just looked this up on imdb and realised that jai courtney is so unmemorable that i spent the whole movie thinking he was playing rick flag - he actually plays captain boomerang :/

tbf Joel Kinnaman is equally forgettable

parts of the first half of this reminded me of how spring breakers was edited but this time i don't think the hazy, looping incoherence was partic intentional

enjoyed that everything down to the subtitles was in edgy font

extraordinary moment near the end when events you watched happen in their entirety an hour ago are shown again wrapped in all the audiovisual signifiers of a Revelatory Flashback

i was super annoyed by that lol

part of the obvious editing problems, like how many times did we need to see Diablo burning up that prison yard

it really feels like it was hacked to pieces and stitched back together in a hurry.

- katana and slipknot are introduced in such a rush it almost seems like an afterthought
- harley quinn's flashbacks seem dropped in at random
- the scene with enchantress and rick flag in the underground not only makes no sense (why are they setting a bomb to go off in two seconds?!) but is repeated twice for some reason
- the end of the first act, which i'd say is where the squad get together in one place before heading off to midway city, seems to run straight into the start of what looks like the third act, with Enchantress starting up her destruction machine, before looping back to an incoherent second act where the squad learn to work together as they fight up the building to free waller. i'm guessing most of the what makes up the second act is a reshoot, since they supposedly shot extra to add more action and this section is almost all fighting and is pretty much entirely disposable. it also totally muddies what the squad's mission is supposed to be - they get put into action, it seems, to stop the enchantress but they're actually they're instead to... rescue waller? i genuinely did not follow this at all
- who shot down the squad's helicopter? was it the joker's goons? we never see where the shots come from, do we?

also I can't stress enough how much it bothered me that rick flag sometimes had a goatee and short hair and sometimes a shitty beard and longer, slicked-back hair

I love the maudlin bar scene that brings everything to a screeching halt with Flagg having his emo moment, like it was totally unearned, were we really supposed to be moved by it?

weirdest part in that terrible scene is where flag smashes the device which controls the squad's explosive implants and harley gleefully skips over to the mirror to check out her neck, seemingly forgetting that her puddin' deactivated her device like five minutes beforehand

i like the thought that the squad were all shitfaced during the final battle tho

I was taking a piss during most of the Joker scene. what happened with the whole helicopter rescue shit

a letter from a disgruntled former warners employee takes aim at snyder and execs:

An Open Letter To Warner Bros CEO Kevin Tsujihara About Layoffs, Zack Snyder, and Donuts

When I left my screening of Suicide Squad last week, I was angry. I was annoyed and let down and frustrated as well, but mostly I was just angry.

Look, I'm a big dork. So of course I thought this trainwreck of a movie did a major disservice to the characters, concept, cast, and crew, but that wasn't why I was mad. Yes, it is unfathomable to me that Warner Bros could mess up a movie starring Will Smith, Margot Robbie, and The Joker so completely. But that just had me flummoxed.

I was angry because I couldn't stop thinking about you, Kevin Tsujihara.

A lot of fans might be angry (and rightfully so) because you keep completely whiffing at properties that they are desperate to love and enjoy, but this is a little more personal for me. See, I am a former Warner Bros employee. I have so much respect for your studio. I love every square inch of that magical backlot, from Stars Hollow to the fitness center I always meant to use. The people I worked with during my time with your company are now close friends. On my last day, I hugged them and I told them I loved them.

I was also there in 2014, when you made the decision to lay off 10 percent of your workforce. It was a terrible year. Let me catch you up: Every morning I woke up with a pit in my stomach, because I assumed that would be the day I lost my job. Every day I saw someone packing up their desk, or carrying a box to their car. I can not describe to you the relief I felt when my department was told we were safe, or the guilt I felt afterwards walking through the halls of my office with that relief.

But out of all that, the thing that really sticks with me is the memo you sent to all of us. Let me refresh you on my favorite part:

I wanted you to hear directly from me about our plans for the studio. In recent days, we have started to hear rumors here at the company and to read misinformation in the press, so I'd like to set the record straight. I know that the hard work and dedication of every employee around the world is the key to Warner Bros.' success, and I am sorry for the distraction this situation brings to the workplace.

At Warner Bros., we work with the world's most extraordinary storytellers, and our focus has always been to provide the creative environment and financial resources they need to realize their vision. Our commitment to that won't change. In fact, we're investing more than ever in our film and television productions.

This is how you opened a memo about layoffs. "Hey guys, we work hard for the people telling stories here and we want to make sure those visions are realized." The balls on you.

That year we pursued the storytelling vision of Adam Sandler's Blended and Clint Eastwood's Jersey Boys. Failures. We pursued a potentially great summer movie like Edge of Tomorrow and completely botched its release. Same with Man From UNCLE. We dug in our heels and hoped The Hobbit Trilogy would somehow stop being a mediocre case of diminishing returns. Talented, loyal people packed their boxes and went home while your story tellers dropped the ball.

One could argue that this was not your fault. That you inherited former CEO Barry Meyer's agenda and were merely trying to correct the course of an ocean liner heading for an iceberg.

I would not make this argument. And here's why: I wrote this letter last year. I actually started forming it in my head after Man of Steel was a box office failure instead of the modern classic tentpole you were expecting.

I kept holding off on doing anything with it because of one title: Suicide Squad. Zack Snyder's Dawn of Justice was a fiasco, but here comes this plucky little dark adventure about antiheroes. I love David Ayer. I love Harley Quinn. I love Will Smith. Put the letter in a drawer. The ship isn't sinking anymore. Everything is fine. There's no way this movie is bad.

And here we are. I got back from my screening and dusted this sucker off. You, your executive team, and the vision of your 'extraordinary storytellers' that resulted in the loss of around one thousand jobs seem intent on crashing the ship into as much shit as you can find in the ocean by making inane decisions over and over again.

Zack Snyder is not delivering. Is he being punished? Assistants who were doing fantastic work certainly were. People in finance and in marketing and in IT. They had no say in a movie called Batman V Superman only having 8 minutes of Batman fighting Superman in it, that ends because their moms have the same name. Snyder is a producer on every DC movie. He is still directing Justice League. He is being rewarded with more opportunity to get more people laid off. I'm assuming you yourself haven't been financially affected in any real way. You and your studio are the biggest lesson about life one can learn: The top screws up and the bottom suffers. Peter Jackson phones it in and a marketing supervisor has to figure out a plan B for house payments.

Your uneven Hall H presentation at Comic Con this year was a ridiculous mess that ranged from rushed to boring. When Marvel announced their full slate of films with a fun fan event several years ago, you announced yours on a shareholder conference call.
You just don't get it. And it's not just DC movies, it's your whole slate. Jupiter Ascending. Get Hard. Hot Pursuit. Max. Vacation. Pan. Point Break. Fucking PAN, you jerk. People lost their jobs and you decided Pan was a good idea. You think another Jungle Book is a good idea.
What are you even doing? I wish to God you were forced to live out of a car until you made a #1 movie of the year. Maybe Wonder Woman wouldn't be such a mess. Don't try to hide behind the great trailer. People inside are already confirming it's another mess. It is almost impressive how you keep rewarding the same producers and executives for making the same mistakes, over and over.

If I worked at a donut stand, and I kept fucking up donuts, I'd be fired. Even if I made a tiny decent one every now and then, it doesn't matter. I'm gonna get fired.

I love that studio, and you're allowing it to sink. It's not about making movies for 'the fans' and not 'the critics.' It's not even about 'ruining childhoods.' It's about protecting livelihoods.

It's time to wake up and make the fucking donuts, Kevin.

Predicted 69% second week drop, on par with Boredman Vs. Stuporman.

nice

the twitter joke of tagging things with tom hardy's name, since the role was obviously created as "a tom hardy type," is good

― mh, Friday, August 12, 2016 8:14 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The two of them look so similar it would've been pretty fucking weird if Hardy had actually taken the part of Flagg, as was originally intended.

Saw it this evening after several beers.

Messy as shit, but in no way making me think this some massively fascist shit as every take a Zac Snyder DC inspires.

Here, the actors actually work well together, in parts, and the film has enough bits to make one curious exactly how much the studio effed over David Ayer

All-in-all: I hope John Ostrander got a big-ass check from this, as without him and his late wife, DC would have no film.

Found it most interesting that Will Smith actually portrayed a character, rather than just Will Smithing all over the place.

saw this at the drive-in, yeah it's a total mess, possibly a worse movie than BvS. Joker was meh, Harley Quinn was eh, Will Smith was alright but it is hardly convincing to have Will Smith say "Remember, we're the bad guys". sure you are, Will Smith, sure you are.

when they killed the witch at the end of the movie by stabbing her heart i was like..... why didn't you guys just do that at the start?

lots of horrible editing. just long stretches of boringness and then THEYWOULDHAVEAFLASHBACKHERE'SJoKERDOINGTHISTHING and then it's gone. i had heard the trailer company re-edited the movie, they should have put more neon stuff into it. as it is, about halfway through it just goes into dull dark territory.

Waller was well-cast but really poorly written. again, she had the heart of the enchantress the entire time, and was even seen stabbing it out of frustration, and yet it never occurred to just destroy the heart and kill all the evil magic beings taking over the world? the bit where Waller was leaving in her heli and then a second later it was crashing was so poorly edited. WHAT HAD HAPPENED? did someone shoot the helicopter down? one scene they are flying away and then second later she is crashing. i felt like i had missed something, and i probably did cos it was edited out. which is confusing cos the other helicopter is crashing too ....?

yes! I was baffled that the movie went from neon overload craziness in the first hour to really drab gray for the rest of it. i don't have anything else to say that hasn't been said here, it was a mess, but that first hour/half-hour was at least kinetic and looked cool.

All-in-all: I hope John Ostrander got a big-ass check from this, as without him and his late wife, DC would have no film.

I hope this, too. I don't believe it, but I do hope it.

he seems very boosterish (gold)
http://www.comicmix.com/2016/08/07/john-ostrander-reviews-the-suicide-squad/

Jared Leto: Actor Reportedly Says He Feels He Was Tricked Into Doing 'Suicide Squad' Movie
Leto, who played the Joker, said at an event he thought it would be a more artistic production and has not seen the theatrical release, according to a fan who summarized the conversation on Tumblr.

omg i'm dying

jared leto def seems like one of hollywood's more profoundly stupid people

leto's joker needed more cagney and fewer random emphases

that instagram post of him looking sullen in a chair next to a Frederick Douglass quote still amazes me

hearty lol at the idea that his embarrassing performance would be any more at home in an 'artistic production'

this quote from above made me lol at this dude's misfortune

Look, I'm a big dork. So of course I thought this trainwreck of a movie did a major disservice to the characters, concept, cast, and crew, but that wasn't why I was mad. Yes, it is unfathomable to me that Warner Bros could mess up a movie starring Will Smith, Margot Robbie, and The Joker so completely. But that just had me flummoxed.

I guess optimistic dudes like this keep the hollywood machine going, buuut.. take a look around bro.

He was very honest about the film this weekend; his disappointment in what he’s learned of the theatrical cut (he’s still not seen the film);

http://www.avclub.com/article/jared-leto-says-he-was-tricked-playing-joker-241294

imo the facebook summary of whatever he said trumps an article on what he said which probably is better than his actual words

good news everyone!

David Ayer is back in the business of DC comic villains.

The filmmaker, who directed Warner Bros.’ all-bad guy comic book movie Suicide Squad, is reuniting with that film’s star, Margot Robbie, for Gotham City Sirens, a feature project that will showcase the top female villains from the DC stable, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.

Ayer will direct and produce the project with Robbie reprising her role as Harley Quinn, the part-time girlfriend of the Joker who is currently DC's most popular female character. Robbie also is executive producing.

Sirens was a recent comic series from DC that focused on the popular villainesses from Batman’s rogue gallery. Among them were Quinn; Catwoman, Batman’s sometime love interest; and Poison Ivy, who uses plants and their toxins to get what she wants.

Geneva Robertson-Dworet, a top female writer in the action sphere who also has penned scripts for the Tomb Raider remake and Warners' own Sherlock Holmes 3, is writing the screenplay.

Curious how many years it'll take before they match the comics and portray Poison Ivy as "Harley's sometime love interest."

over/under at 3 imo

wonder how many helicopters will crash in this movie

kind of surprised ayer would come back, making what sounds like the same movie, after they chopped up his first one

xp over/under at 3 imo

Tuesday, news broke that Suicide Squad director David Ayer will stay in the DC film universe with an all-female film called Gotham City Sirens, which will star Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn. But buried beneath that news is the potential of two other films based on this summer’s DC team up.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, in addition to Gotham City Sirens, DC and Warner Bros. are working on a Suicide Squad sequel and a spinoff featuring Will Smith’s Deadshot. That’s three films that will directly follow up on Suicide Squad.