The Suicide Squad Film Follies

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/suicide-squad-is-the-summers-best-movie-about-divorce-1784871078

In short, this is an adventure in Ross Douthat’s apocalypse of sexually liberated women and laws designed to harm families, but with a happy ending only he could write. Imagine if God met the man at Yale, but then took him to Hot Topic. That’s really what this experience is all about.

Leto is a tool, this couldn't have happened to a nicer actor

http://bullettmedia.com/article/jared-leto-got-shamed-deleting-douchiest-tweet-yet/buxwog8imaagg3g/

My 12-year-old went with his aunts today and they all loved it, apparently. I'm just happy I won't feel any pressure to take him.

i'm amazed that this film can generate any passionate reaction. unlike Batman v Supes, which was batshit, this was just boring, can't see people screaming in ecstacy or agony over it. (12 year olds excluded - kids love things)

(12 year olds excluded - kids love things)

Diehard superhero-movie audience = mentally/emotionally 12, regardless of physical/chronological age

very true. the 4000 post thread for that stupid nu-ghostbusters movie is a good example.

High bar and all, but that might actually be the dumbest thing you've said on ILX.

His little, beaming face.

http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/082016/small_jared_leto_jacket.jpg

That's like some Perry Bible shit

"High bar and all, but that might actually be the dumbest thing you've said on ILX."

wait, me? that is sooooo not the dumbest thing i've said on ilx. not even top ten!

He was probably talking to me. Comic-book saddos get so defensive when you point out their stalled development.

NO WE DON'T

I'M TELLING MOM

People who've seen it, which side is worse, Ayer's dark and gritty or the trailer company's wacky music video?

the latter. the dark and gritty can only go so far, it's PG-13

I really don't see why this movie is really considered all that much worse than other super hero movies. Really all of them, even the good ones are pretty dumb. I thought it was fun, it's a comic book movie. You got a couple panels of origin for each character then you got a big extended fight scene to go take out the monster. That's like half the super hero comics ever made. It is totally laid out like a video game where each character gets a theme song.

Waller is flat out evil in this thing, which might be some anti-govt subtext to the whole thing. To say it's all that much less hammy than the stuff in those Capt. America movies is absurd. It's all pulp soda pop stuff anyway.

haven't seen it, but was hoping that it was fun anyway. looks fun! been holding on to two free movie tickets for a year or two now, was thinking of spending them on this but I dunno. is there sonething else playing now that is waaaaay better?

is it better or worse than the new Ghostbusters?

same deal really - entertaining, not nearly as bad as ppl made it out to be

that's good to know. no lofty expectations mind you, fwiw I quite liked "Blade II" (don't tell dr. morbius), not in the same way that I liked "8 1/2", but surely there must be a time and a place in this world for "Blade II"

Overheard my son discussing the movie with his mother:

And it had all these great songs in it like Spirit in the Sky and Sympathy for the Devil!"

Ah no it was scott - common-or-garden nerd bashing is pretty dull, but non-common-or-garden nerds have not really been doing us any favours. And at least it had some connection to reality.

I don't feel like this movie *was* fun is the issue. the first 40 minutes of character introductions and training exercises and wisecracks was actually a blast, and it was stylistically 'comic book'-y.

Unlike Guardians of the Galaxy, though, which only had a handful of characters to introduce you to, there are an assload of characters in this film and some of them you barely get introduced to since they jump into the big battle so quickly. I forgot Killer Croc was even in it until he said his one line ("I'm beautiful!"). I didn't want detailed back stories on each one, no, but the issue was they tried to hedge their bets by having a momentum-stalling bar scene where everybody sobbed around a table and drank.

there also don't really frame the stakes very well so it's hard to give much of a shit about any of the various battles because you don't really care if they win them or not, just that they 'look cool' (and outside of the first five minutes - it gets repetitive after the 90th mud person gets iced).

Honestly, the scenes with the Joker could have been deleted outside of Harley's introduction and nobody would have missed them. Plus Joker dresses like a gangsta rapper in this and seems more like he's doing impressions of past Jokers than bringing his own thing to the table. He does have the "deranged" tattoo too.

I think Robbie does a good job at Harley but they basically just prance her about sexually the whole film after her introduction.

Definitely not as bad as other DC flicks in that there are parts of it that *are* fun (I did like the Nolan Batman films if that discredits me) but I can certainly tell the difference between it and a Marvel film.

seems like DC is 0 for 3 since kickstarting their own movieverse (I hate that word) with Man of Steel.

This was my 'favorite' of the three

I really don't see why this movie is really considered all that much worse than other super hero movies. Really all of them, even the good ones are pretty dumb.

fwiw i saw X-Men Apocalypse last night and was kind of taken back by how much drama and real character insight they had, the whole Magneto sideplot in the beginning was just heartbreaking and felt like it had some deeper truths in it. then you had Professor X's unrequited love thing. felt like i was watching Real People i could actually relate to. obv i don't want to turn it into a Marvel vs DC thing cos i could care less but thinking back to Superman and even Batman, you just can't relate to those characters at all.

yeah the x men movies have their problems but lack of character development isn't one of them

that Magneto plotline was some cheap bullshit imo

"felt like i was watching Real People i could actually relate to"

Cannot imagine feeling like this in a cinema in 2016 tbh

tbh Real People are hard to relate to

Killer Cric tho, I feel his pain

In caps it makes me think we are talking about RealDolls itt

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/654/medium/1980_Diff_rent_Strokes_Grady_Real_People_Whitman_Mayo_NBC_Tv_Guide_Ad.JPG

love 2 relate

hoo boy this is a real lumpy, ugly mess of a movie. they seem to have butchered the second act almost to nothing and what's left makes very little sense. there's a fun metagame in watching jai courtney's hair and beard change length and style from scene to scene - i guess they stopped giving a fuck about continuity once the reshoots started?

it feels like they left a lot of jared leto on the cutting-room floor but he manages to be catastrophically poor in the scenes which survive. he's ACTING SO HARD it's embarrassing to watch.

i liked killer croc's makeup tho!

yeah I don't get the "Jared's a great joker, he just didn't get much to do" line, I mean the latter is certainly true, but he seems to be doing actor karaoke most of the time, imitations of past Jokers in a gumbo rather than bringing any real personality to it

can't believe this takes place in the fight club universe and the joker is the guy who was beat to shit by ed norton

god bless poor jai courtney, the man cursed with hollywood's most forgettable face - i've seen him in like four movies by this point but i still couldn't pick him out of a lineup of five moderately handsome white guys if you gave me three chances

lol he doesn't help by being so devoid of charisma

the twitter joke of tagging things with tom hardy's name, since the role was obviously created as "a tom hardy type," is good

i enjoyed the part where a bunch of non-powered humans armed with guns, a sword and a baseball bat managed to defeat an immensely powerful witch from another dimension

also the part in the bar where will smith ruefully laments that they were so close to completing their mission and the audience shuffles their feet and mutters 'what the fuck was your mission supposed to be again?'

recouping production costs iirc

i just looked this up on imdb and realised that jai courtney is so unmemorable that i spent the whole movie thinking he was playing rick flag - he actually plays captain boomerang :/

tbf Joel Kinnaman is equally forgettable

parts of the first half of this reminded me of how spring breakers was edited but this time i don't think the hazy, looping incoherence was partic intentional

enjoyed that everything down to the subtitles was in edgy font

extraordinary moment near the end when events you watched happen in their entirety an hour ago are shown again wrapped in all the audiovisual signifiers of a Revelatory Flashback

i was super annoyed by that lol

part of the obvious editing problems, like how many times did we need to see Diablo burning up that prison yard