The Suicide Squad Film Follies

Nhex otm tho. It was not an outright dumpster fire

That expression is super misused. I saw a dumpster fire once, and it was pretty cool.

THE DARK KNIGHT (2008) - 94%
THE DARK KNIGHT RISES (2012) - 87%

shut down rotten tomatoes for giving such high ratings to these abortions tbh

Once again, though, RT doesn't rate the films, it just collects critical data.

I hadn't realized that critics had drank the Kool aid with TDK so much that they so overwhelmingly endorsed the sequel.

maria and cyrus liked this last night. but cyrus is 11 and maria smokes a ton of pot, so, you know, caveat emptor. i didn't want to go.

Endorsed = anything from a 6 (5?) out of 10 upwards.

We also asked Leto if he was upset about any of his scenes getting cut – as previously reported – to which he responded.

“Were there any that didn’t get cut? I’m asking you, were there any that didn’t get cut? There were so many scenes that got cut from the movie, I couldn’t even start. I think that the Joker… we did a lot of experimentation on the set, we explored a lot. There’s so much that we shot that’s not in the film.

“If I die anytime soon, it’s probably likely that it’ll surface somewhere. That’s the good news about the death of an actor is all that stuff seems to come out.”

As IGN left the room we told Leto we hope he doesn’t die anytime soon, to which he rather darkly responded “We all die.”

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2016/08/05/jared-leto-unsure-about-jokers-journey-in-suicide-squad

some spoilers in that I guess

apart from the "we all die" bit I mean

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/suicide-squad-is-the-summers-best-movie-about-divorce-1784871078

In short, this is an adventure in Ross Douthat’s apocalypse of sexually liberated women and laws designed to harm families, but with a happy ending only he could write. Imagine if God met the man at Yale, but then took him to Hot Topic. That’s really what this experience is all about.

Leto is a tool, this couldn't have happened to a nicer actor

http://bullettmedia.com/article/jared-leto-got-shamed-deleting-douchiest-tweet-yet/buxwog8imaagg3g/

My 12-year-old went with his aunts today and they all loved it, apparently. I'm just happy I won't feel any pressure to take him.

i'm amazed that this film can generate any passionate reaction. unlike Batman v Supes, which was batshit, this was just boring, can't see people screaming in ecstacy or agony over it. (12 year olds excluded - kids love things)

(12 year olds excluded - kids love things)

Diehard superhero-movie audience = mentally/emotionally 12, regardless of physical/chronological age

very true. the 4000 post thread for that stupid nu-ghostbusters movie is a good example.

High bar and all, but that might actually be the dumbest thing you've said on ILX.

His little, beaming face.

http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/082016/small_jared_leto_jacket.jpg

That's like some Perry Bible shit

"High bar and all, but that might actually be the dumbest thing you've said on ILX."

wait, me? that is sooooo not the dumbest thing i've said on ilx. not even top ten!

He was probably talking to me. Comic-book saddos get so defensive when you point out their stalled development.

NO WE DON'T

I'M TELLING MOM

People who've seen it, which side is worse, Ayer's dark and gritty or the trailer company's wacky music video?

the latter. the dark and gritty can only go so far, it's PG-13

I really don't see why this movie is really considered all that much worse than other super hero movies. Really all of them, even the good ones are pretty dumb. I thought it was fun, it's a comic book movie. You got a couple panels of origin for each character then you got a big extended fight scene to go take out the monster. That's like half the super hero comics ever made. It is totally laid out like a video game where each character gets a theme song.

Waller is flat out evil in this thing, which might be some anti-govt subtext to the whole thing. To say it's all that much less hammy than the stuff in those Capt. America movies is absurd. It's all pulp soda pop stuff anyway.

haven't seen it, but was hoping that it was fun anyway. looks fun! been holding on to two free movie tickets for a year or two now, was thinking of spending them on this but I dunno. is there sonething else playing now that is waaaaay better?

is it better or worse than the new Ghostbusters?

same deal really - entertaining, not nearly as bad as ppl made it out to be

that's good to know. no lofty expectations mind you, fwiw I quite liked "Blade II" (don't tell dr. morbius), not in the same way that I liked "8 1/2", but surely there must be a time and a place in this world for "Blade II"

Overheard my son discussing the movie with his mother:

And it had all these great songs in it like Spirit in the Sky and Sympathy for the Devil!"

Ah no it was scott - common-or-garden nerd bashing is pretty dull, but non-common-or-garden nerds have not really been doing us any favours. And at least it had some connection to reality.

I don't feel like this movie *was* fun is the issue. the first 40 minutes of character introductions and training exercises and wisecracks was actually a blast, and it was stylistically 'comic book'-y.

Unlike Guardians of the Galaxy, though, which only had a handful of characters to introduce you to, there are an assload of characters in this film and some of them you barely get introduced to since they jump into the big battle so quickly. I forgot Killer Croc was even in it until he said his one line ("I'm beautiful!"). I didn't want detailed back stories on each one, no, but the issue was they tried to hedge their bets by having a momentum-stalling bar scene where everybody sobbed around a table and drank.

there also don't really frame the stakes very well so it's hard to give much of a shit about any of the various battles because you don't really care if they win them or not, just that they 'look cool' (and outside of the first five minutes - it gets repetitive after the 90th mud person gets iced).

Honestly, the scenes with the Joker could have been deleted outside of Harley's introduction and nobody would have missed them. Plus Joker dresses like a gangsta rapper in this and seems more like he's doing impressions of past Jokers than bringing his own thing to the table. He does have the "deranged" tattoo too.

I think Robbie does a good job at Harley but they basically just prance her about sexually the whole film after her introduction.

Definitely not as bad as other DC flicks in that there are parts of it that *are* fun (I did like the Nolan Batman films if that discredits me) but I can certainly tell the difference between it and a Marvel film.

seems like DC is 0 for 3 since kickstarting their own movieverse (I hate that word) with Man of Steel.

This was my 'favorite' of the three

I really don't see why this movie is really considered all that much worse than other super hero movies. Really all of them, even the good ones are pretty dumb.

fwiw i saw X-Men Apocalypse last night and was kind of taken back by how much drama and real character insight they had, the whole Magneto sideplot in the beginning was just heartbreaking and felt like it had some deeper truths in it. then you had Professor X's unrequited love thing. felt like i was watching Real People i could actually relate to. obv i don't want to turn it into a Marvel vs DC thing cos i could care less but thinking back to Superman and even Batman, you just can't relate to those characters at all.

yeah the x men movies have their problems but lack of character development isn't one of them

that Magneto plotline was some cheap bullshit imo

"felt like i was watching Real People i could actually relate to"

Cannot imagine feeling like this in a cinema in 2016 tbh

tbh Real People are hard to relate to

Killer Cric tho, I feel his pain

In caps it makes me think we are talking about RealDolls itt

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/654/medium/1980_Diff_rent_Strokes_Grady_Real_People_Whitman_Mayo_NBC_Tv_Guide_Ad.JPG

love 2 relate

hoo boy this is a real lumpy, ugly mess of a movie. they seem to have butchered the second act almost to nothing and what's left makes very little sense. there's a fun metagame in watching jai courtney's hair and beard change length and style from scene to scene - i guess they stopped giving a fuck about continuity once the reshoots started?

it feels like they left a lot of jared leto on the cutting-room floor but he manages to be catastrophically poor in the scenes which survive. he's ACTING SO HARD it's embarrassing to watch.

i liked killer croc's makeup tho!

yeah I don't get the "Jared's a great joker, he just didn't get much to do" line, I mean the latter is certainly true, but he seems to be doing actor karaoke most of the time, imitations of past Jokers in a gumbo rather than bringing any real personality to it

can't believe this takes place in the fight club universe and the joker is the guy who was beat to shit by ed norton

god bless poor jai courtney, the man cursed with hollywood's most forgettable face - i've seen him in like four movies by this point but i still couldn't pick him out of a lineup of five moderately handsome white guys if you gave me three chances

lol he doesn't help by being so devoid of charisma

the twitter joke of tagging things with tom hardy's name, since the role was obviously created as "a tom hardy type," is good