The Suicide Squad Film Follies

"Suicide Squad is two hours of soul-sickening, sensory torment"

http://www.sfgate.com/movies/article/Suicide-Squad-is-two-hours-of-9067798.php

Tell us how you really feel.

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In The Material Ghost, Gilberto Perez (a better film writer than Dargis or Scott, I'm willing to bet) writes in a footnote:

By "the genius of the system" Bazin did not exactly mean the Hollywood studio system... but something larger, the conjunction of a medium, its practioners, and its public, the social, cultural, historical juncture that allowed Hollywood's classical art to flourish.

something i've noticed just this week in the reviews of this film; phrasing to the effect of "you can cheerfully leave after the first 45 minutes and have not missed much" and "you can pop out to the candy counter and come back for the finale.." etc. i mean.. who on earth would actually do that?? i must have seen this kind of sentiment expressed 3 times across a handful of reviews. where's it coming from?? it seems like a whole new thing.

I'm only going to see this coz T-Mobile gave out free tickets to it as part of T-Mobile Tuesday. at least this one is free.

the part about getting in the guys who made the trailer to help out with the re-cut is blowing my mind.

"you can pop out to the candy counter and come back for the finale.."

maybe filmmakers are realizing their movies are so terrible they have started incorporating viral marketing by promoting film counter candy/popcorn vendors into bad reviews

http://comicbook.com/2016/08/03/petition-to-shut-down-rotten-tomatoes-over-bad-suicide-squad-rev/

lots of people I know think RT actually are scoring the movies themselves and don't know how data aggregation works (tho RT's binary scoring system is a bit misleading to begin with, though they do post an 'average score' as well).

all the aggregation is dumb as hell, you have to weight using special sauce due to the fact rating systems are different. you either end up with "net positive/negative" which can mean everyone thought it was ok as a film but not that interesting (so it gets a really high percent) or an attempt to average out numerical ratings which is another shitshow

90% on rotten tomatoes, iirc, means that people thought it was ok, not that it rates a 9/10

so if something fails as a film but is interesting, depending on the reviewer set, you end up with abyssmal scores but it could appeal to you

I guess that might be this film for some people, but it doesn't mean the site is wrong, per se.

yeah, RT I find useful only cos I know how to read it and still actually read the attached reviews rather than just going "OMG IT GOT AN 83%!".

Metacritic tends to be 'more accurate' iirc.

no they are all bad

yeah Metacritic is great. also there's a cool 'disparity' feature on there too, where you can see films with the highest ratings by the site users that have been slated by the critics. there's not enough of that kind of thing on these sites IMO.

i've never seen this movie but the sjw types hate it

*votes 10/10*

Fanboys more deserving of pissing off than sjws.

i'm glad this 20 year promotional cycle is coming to a close

rotten tomatoes is awful, but outraged fanboys are worse

i like RT. i have seen a lot of movies that were low rated on RT and they were almost all horrible movies. it's useful to average the ratings from industry experts.

the only people who think this movie is going to be so good there must be a CONSPIRACY AGAINST IT are people with no sense of perspective.

BvS was lousy. but not even in a bad movie kind of way. just dull and unpleasant and loud and confusing.

has anyone seen the Ultimate Cut? does it explain anything?

I have only seen the Ultimate Cut. It was dull, unpleasant, loud, confusing, and very long. There was a solid one hour stretch where there were no superheroics of any kind.

I've seen only Ultimate Cut too. It wasn't confusing or anything, but I think it's notable that it takes over two hours to set the titular conflict between Batman and Supes, and even then, A) they still can't do it without using the kidnapping of a loved one as justification, and B) it still makes both heroes look like idiots. But this is a movie where Batman shoots and kills a whole bunch of people without any care, and where Superman acts like a mopey teenager (and kills two villains too, despite the outrage the previous movie's ending caused), so they might've just as well been any random characters, they have little to do with the Supes and Bats as they've been established for the last 70+ years.

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/08/whats-the-matter-with-the-dc-comics-movie-franchise/494333
The Atlantic: Still Taking on the Tough Issues in 2016

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We need this site to be shut down because It's Critics always give The DC Extended Universe movies unjust Bad Reviews, Like
1- Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice 2016
2- Suicide Squad 2016

and that Affects people's opinion even if it's a really great movies

It Afflecks people's opinion

hmmm
SUPERMAN RETURNS (2006) - 76%
BATMAN BEGINS (2005) - 84%
THE DARK KNIGHT (2008) - 94%
THE DARK KNIGHT RISES (2012) - 87%

What? No Catwoman?

the fanboy campaigns really kill me. like, if you love DC so much why not direct your anger at WB for making shit movies?

mysteriously the Catwoman rating is just a little picture of DJP giving a thumbs-up

this looks like shit. I'm so tired of seeing Margot Robbie smirk. I don't 'get' harley quinn. I hate this movie.

Im goin cos T Mobile gave freebie tix to all its members Tuesday lol.

are you going to post that every 25 hours until you see it?

sic is sad

Believe it or not sometimes people forget they posted something already, you dickcheese

But if my brain fog is amusing to ya knock yrself out

sic burnt

I am sure 45% of the movie is Robbie making a sexual innuendo

i wish it were just a movie of juggalo jared leto mailing people shocking things

i've seen worse comic book movies

was entertaining enough, even though far from perfect and you could see all the rough edges were scenes were bizarrely re-edited in even though we'd already seen them and pop songs blatantly inserted to make the movie more "fun"

leto/robbie were fine, will smith was fine as slightly angrier will smith. too many characters, but the ones we actually got time for backstory on were solid enough. first act with all the flashbacks was the best part for me, when it became dirty dozen + mud creatures it got too predictable

Believe it or not sometimes people forget they posted something already, you dickcheese

why so serious

It Afflecks people's opinion

bloody hell I laughed a lot at this haha

This was p competent for 40 minutes, then became a sloppy, dour borefest
The action sequences all sucked after the initial 10 minutes

Better than Bat vs Supes but i left early cos it was just sooooo bland.

Nhex otm tho. It was not an outright dumpster fire

That expression is super misused. I saw a dumpster fire once, and it was pretty cool.

THE DARK KNIGHT (2008) - 94%
THE DARK KNIGHT RISES (2012) - 87%

shut down rotten tomatoes for giving such high ratings to these abortions tbh

Once again, though, RT doesn't rate the films, it just collects critical data.

I hadn't realized that critics had drank the Kool aid with TDK so much that they so overwhelmingly endorsed the sequel.

maria and cyrus liked this last night. but cyrus is 11 and maria smokes a ton of pot, so, you know, caveat emptor. i didn't want to go.

Endorsed = anything from a 6 (5?) out of 10 upwards.

We also asked Leto if he was upset about any of his scenes getting cut – as previously reported – to which he responded.

“Were there any that didn’t get cut? I’m asking you, were there any that didn’t get cut? There were so many scenes that got cut from the movie, I couldn’t even start. I think that the Joker… we did a lot of experimentation on the set, we explored a lot. There’s so much that we shot that’s not in the film.

“If I die anytime soon, it’s probably likely that it’ll surface somewhere. That’s the good news about the death of an actor is all that stuff seems to come out.”

As IGN left the room we told Leto we hope he doesn’t die anytime soon, to which he rather darkly responded “We all die.”

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2016/08/05/jared-leto-unsure-about-jokers-journey-in-suicide-squad

some spoilers in that I guess

apart from the "we all die" bit I mean

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/suicide-squad-is-the-summers-best-movie-about-divorce-1784871078

In short, this is an adventure in Ross Douthat’s apocalypse of sexually liberated women and laws designed to harm families, but with a happy ending only he could write. Imagine if God met the man at Yale, but then took him to Hot Topic. That’s really what this experience is all about.