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I'd forgotten about it implying 'pompous' as always think of it as 'portending' something (thanks, English GCSE!) so... I guess? I do not like it though

kinder, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 12:57 (nine years ago)

It doesn't is what I'm saying. It's just about portent. But that's not how I see it used

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:00 (nine years ago)

yeah there's probably a technical word for this - a word gradually acquires a new usage because it happens to sound similar to a word with a different meaning

at some point with enough usage then the new "meaning" becomes legitimate i guess, i.e. dictionaries will give it, however rooted in straight wrongness this process is

the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:02 (nine years ago)

http://www.worldwidewords.org/topicalwords/tw-jej1.htm

this piece about "jejune" is a little dry (ironically) but it details an instance of a similar process

the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:04 (nine years ago)

It's the same confusion people show when using "reticent" versus "reluctant."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:04 (nine years ago)

yes - and in both cases you can kinda understand why the slip is happening beyond just the words sounding similar. something being portentous - full of mystery and foreboding - could kind of strike one as pretentious. being inhibited or reserved is a kind of reluctance - to speak. but what really bothers me about portentous and pretentious is that it's confused by ppl who really should know better - ppl who do know the word pretentious but choose not to use it in favor of a different word that means something else entirely.

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:06 (nine years ago)

i usually look askance at people using "pretentious" as an insult anyway so

the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:07 (nine years ago)

yes it does seem vaguely anti-intellectual which is maybe another reason pseudos try to replace it w/ portentous which sounds like it may carry a more neutral tone?

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:10 (nine years ago)

at some point with enough usage then the new "meaning" becomes legitimate i guess, i.e. dictionaries will give it, however rooted in straight wrongness this process is

it looks like this has already happened, if I put "portentous definition" into google then it gives me the following:

adjective
- of or like a portent; of momentous significance.
"this portentous year in Canadian history"
synonyms: ominous, warning, foreshadowing, predictive, premonitory, prognosticatory, momentous, fateful; More

- done in a pompously or overly solemn manner so as to impress.
"the author's portentous moralizings"
synonyms: pompous, bombastic, self-important, pontifical, ponderous, solemn, sonorous, grandiloquent, declamatory, overblown, overripe, inflated, rhetorical, oratorical
"Dr Chen muttered some portentous dialogue"

soref, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:10 (nine years ago)

NV: catachresis?

Sideshow Gladwell (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:23 (nine years ago)

Feel like the AP has just given up lately.

http://i.imgur.com/DA7yQEC.jpg?1

pplains, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:28 (nine years ago)

Puffin - yeah i guess so altho i don't think catachresis covers the "word ends up acquiring its misuse as a new valid definition" element

the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:29 (nine years ago)

That waitlist (n) wait-list (v) kind of thing doesn't bother me at all.

Lots of compounds do similar costume changes when used in different ways. Mostly they tend to close over time, but they do so by degrees.

Compare: "She owns a small business." Noun. Vs. "She is a small-business owner." Compound modifier. Hyphenated to avoid potential ambiguity over whether she's small or the business is small.

Is there ambiguity introduced by wait list vs. waitlist vs. wait-list? No, not really, but it isn't weird on its face to have the noun close faster than the verb.

Sideshow Gladwell (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:33 (nine years ago)

Ugh, so glad wait list and wait-list haven't made it across the Atlantic yet. Give it time though.

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:41 (nine years ago)

I'm very annoyed by people who mis-pronouce things in a jokey way too often, and then begin insisting that their pronunciation is correct and is the one you must use in their earshot.

Person a: Have you seen this bio-pic? (pronounces bio-pic as a normal human would)
Person b: You mean a biopic? (pronounces it like a piece of medical equipment)

This also goes for people who say Spiderman the way one would say Lieberman. It may have been funny once.

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:57 (nine years ago)

what kind of people do you hang out with

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:57 (nine years ago)

lol

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 13:58 (nine years ago)

I said "biopic" once in high school and a kid said "bio-pic? I think you mean biopic [to rhyme with myopic]" I wonder whatever happened to him

conrad, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:00 (nine years ago)

eaten by a lion

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:00 (nine years ago)

one of my colleagues just now on the telephone said he'd go through something with a "tooth comb" perhaps a slip of the tongue but just as likely that he thinks a there is a thing called a "tooth comb"

conrad, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:01 (nine years ago)

replacing flossing iirc

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:02 (nine years ago)

My friend told me someone he knew was "Vapor acted" the other day

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:02 (nine years ago)

eaten by a lion

always pronounced it "lee-on" and didn't understand the warning shout

the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:03 (nine years ago)

also people who pronounce Sci-fi as "Siffy"

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:04 (nine years ago)

i say "ess eff" cos i know some SF nerds who get really pissy about "Sy Fy"

the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:06 (nine years ago)

i watched one of those cheesy in-class movies in Biology once in high school where the dude kept referring to the element as "al-yoo-min-ee-um" and laughed at him only to realize years later that we in North America are the only idiots who say it/spell it "aluminum"

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:07 (nine years ago)

i know! i seem to recall reading a long time ago that your pronunciation is older/more etymologically established tho

the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:09 (nine years ago)

http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/aluminium.htm

there you go, U-S-A, U-S-A

the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:11 (nine years ago)

but then weirdly i guess Americans don't use "calcum" or "potassum" or etc

the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:12 (nine years ago)

I'm not a fan of wait-list being a verb in the first place.

pplains, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:12 (nine years ago)

"Placed on the wait list" is fine. Why is anyone in such a hurry, since we're already literally talking about WAITING?

Also I have seen SciFi (the cable TV channel) jocularly spelled as if it were pronounced "Skiffy." (On Facebook, so, take that for what it's worth.)

Sideshow Gladwell (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:14 (nine years ago)

They changed their name to SyFy which is like... so much worse than "skiffy" jokes

a simba man (Will M.), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:25 (nine years ago)

when I worked in a call centre it seemed like the majority of customers over the age of, say, 60 pronounced WiFi as "wiffy" - it didn't annoy me, though

soref, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:29 (nine years ago)

but it was weird when they pronounced "spiffy" as 'spy-fy'

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:32 (nine years ago)

I know a person from the Netherlands who says wifi as "veefee," which is correct for many Yurpean languages, and I actually find it kinda charming. I don't do this myself in USian contexts, as I do not enjoy getting punched in the mouth

think zebras, not horses, unless you're in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:37 (nine years ago)

I've heard it pronounced "weefy" across Central and South America.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 14:54 (nine years ago)

ya wifi is pronounced weefee in a lot of places which is cool

in south america i've heard it pronounced interneto which is awesome

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 19:42 (nine years ago)

interneato

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 19:48 (nine years ago)

Mine: People saying 'mischievious'

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🐸a hairy howling toad torments a man whose wife is deathly ill (James Morrison), Thursday, 4 August 2016 01:29 (nine years ago)

'tweetstorm', as though someone typing with their thumbs on a phone is some awesome display of majestic rage. 12 consecutive sentences is not a storm. It's a paragraph.

🐸a hairy howling toad torments a man whose wife is deathly ill (James Morrison), Thursday, 4 August 2016 05:25 (nine years ago)

"sessions." Every fucking music blog/wanna be publication calls their live sets "sessions."

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 4 August 2016 14:19 (nine years ago)

Haha, good friend of mine who is a professional event DJ, has lots of radio experience, etc. puts up Instagram photos all the time of what he's listening to on his turntable and labels them "vinyl session."

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 August 2016 14:24 (nine years ago)

"session" just screams tongue-clicking indieboy thoughtfulness to me idk it makes my skin crawl

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 4 August 2016 14:29 (nine years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/yQgFiTp.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IivJYSL.png

http://i.imgur.com/UouLy1f.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 4 August 2016 14:50 (nine years ago)

'tweetstorm', as though someone typing with their thumbs on a phone is some awesome display of majestic rage. 12 consecutive sentences is not a storm. It's a paragraph.

― 🐸a hairy howling toad torments a man whose wife is deathly ill (James Morrison), Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:25 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the term and the genre equally irritate me. Just write a fucking op-ed.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 4 August 2016 15:01 (nine years ago)

Your opinion about Trump is not the fucking tractatus logico-philosophicus

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 4 August 2016 15:01 (nine years ago)

xpost yeah, there's something super annoying about all the knuckle-cracking and here-we-going before someone fires off 20 tweets. But I suppose confining that much self-righteousness to a single paragraph might cause some kind of black hole to appear in the internet.

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 4 August 2016 15:06 (nine years ago)

JM laying down a tweetstorm truthbomb

we're gonna live in spatula city (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 4 August 2016 15:09 (nine years ago)

tweetstorm truthbomb thumbstrain

think zebras, not horses, unless you're in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 4 August 2016 15:29 (nine years ago)

I'm getting pretty tired of the ironic usage of lizard people/person

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 4 August 2016 15:34 (nine years ago)


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