for mcbride humiliation is motive but for goggins it seems more like excuse (cf also iago!)
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 23:44 (seven years ago) link
sry to thinkpiece
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 23:45 (seven years ago) link
xxxxp Also there are only two episodes of this out, right? Maybe wait until the end of a season before rushing to compare it to Election.
― Have you hugged your timeghoul today? (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 23:45 (seven years ago) link
otm, i'm not willing yet to go any further than dostoevsky and shakespeare
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 23:49 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I see this going to some potentially interesting places. McBride likes his dumbshit comedy but he also likes his pathos. I can see him sobering up from Goggins's influence and attempting to set things right, with hilarious results.
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 23:50 (seven years ago) link
never seen Election, will check it out― flopson, Wednesday, July 27, 2016 3:38 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flopson, Wednesday, July 27, 2016 3:38 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
modern classic IMO -- even if you haven't liked alexander payne's other films, this one is real good.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 July 2016 03:06 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, basically just ignore the man behind the curtain. Shocking dropoff in quality after that one.
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 July 2016 03:09 (seven years ago) link
Mrs. Libby asking "open or closed?" as she exits Gamby's office gets me every time
― veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 28 July 2016 05:48 (seven years ago) link
that might be the moment of the show so far ^
― a simba man (Will M.), Thursday, 28 July 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link
don't really think this show about a frustrated, humiliated white man being goaded by a demonic nihilist into acts of self-destructive violence for the sake of catharsis is particularly poorly timed
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
meant poorly timed in the sense that it was guaranteed, as a result of when it debuted, to elicit concerns about What It's Really Saying
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 28 July 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link
Thinkpieces and zings aside, this is just not good.Bonus points for "underage" nudity, what could be funnier
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 06:08 (seven years ago) link
lol @ "I love you"
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link
heh yes!
there was a lot of funny this ep, im glad I didn't bail on this show
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link
great last line too: "this is our home now"
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link
"who put the po po in your ho ho"
― woke-ing class zero (s.clover), Monday, 15 August 2016 03:17 (seven years ago) link
great episode, show's on a roll
― Οὖτις, Monday, 15 August 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link
I like this show a lot but Eastbound & Down has my heart
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Thursday, July 28, 2016 1:30 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
turns out it's probably the best critique of american masculinity we're going to get.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 03:04 (seven years ago) link
Chekhov's brass knuckles was great.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 03:49 (seven years ago) link
"I'm sorry you made me yell at you"
show is delivering imo
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 14:41 (seven years ago) link
Catching up, watched the field trip ep last night. Bit of a detour ep but still so good. At it's most NO DONT DO IT DONT DO IT the show is verging on the genre of horror, imo
― flopson, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link
Goggins is really a joy to watch
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
it reminds me of alexander payne's better offerings, tbh
― remy bean, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link
Also, if the race politics are headed where I think they are, I really like the show's gall. If they're not I might stop watching.
caught up now; the plotting in this is really good isn't it.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 03:42 (seven years ago) link
If anything I find the ex/daughter subplot a little distracting, but I guess it goes towards his motivations and whatnot.
Goggins is hilarious. Ive never seen him in anything before.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 04:46 (seven years ago) link
I've started up on Justified. Goggins reminds me a bit of Bruce Dern. Similar build, intensity and both have those crazy eyes.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 12:07 (seven years ago) link
Oh the spit bust wow
Also can we take a moment to acknowledge the awesomeness of Ray?
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Monday, 29 August 2016 06:46 (seven years ago) link
goggins in the hospital doing the unnecessary 360 and then shoving a clown was legit incredible
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 03:33 (seven years ago) link
this has been weirdly all over the place tbh
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 04:14 (seven years ago) link
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Monday, August 29, 2016 2:46 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
YES
― flopson, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 13:07 (seven years ago) link
happy that this show has gotten better since the bitter arguments itt circa ep 2
― a simba man (Will M.), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link
tbh I was offended that Gamby wooed Miss Snodgrass
― flopson, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link
it's definitely gotten a lot funnier (or im more receptive the the humor) lately. the "guess the occupation" scene was really funny. and the deadpan "I'm high as a motherfucker."
― ryan, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link
still find this fucking terrible but tbh it's become a hate watch.
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
high point was the first 25 minutes of the episode with the shitty neighbor, felt like a good look into the brain of goggins, but the knucks save kinda defeated the purpose?
― a simba man (Will M.), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link
No that's the whole point, McBride had to brass knuckles the workout metal dude because Goggins, though evil, is too chicken to do face-to-face confrontations, he can only do weaselly backstabbing stuff (spiking the kool-aid with lsd, spitting in Brown's coffee--btw: deepest body squirm at when she catches him doing this after his plan to pit the union/school-board against here goes off without a hitch) and goad McBride into confrontations. crucial dynamic
― flopson, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
a iago/othello dynamic
― ryan, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
yup
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
i guess i just wish that the neighbor was a problem for more thna half an hour is all i am saying
― a simba man (Will M.), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link
Snodgrass falling for Gamby ruined this show.
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
i mean not that it was that good before.. but CMON ONNNNNN
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link
I'm sure the rest of the series is going to be about their successful relationship
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link
maybe, but it also feels (so far) that she's using him as a way to prop up her own ego after getting rejected by that other teacher, right?
― ryan, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link
xp!
STILL
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link
it's fitting that woke chaki ambivalent this show cuz its sense of humor reminds so much of that of old chaki
― flopson, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link
One of the show's emerging threads is the study of unexamined white privilege, and it works great when it's implicating McBride and Goggins' assumption of Brown's incompetence. But I find the racial stuff embarrassing w/ the handling of Goggins' wife (manipulative Asian woman w/ draconian mother?) and also in the expression of the Brown family dynamic in the "Teacher Work Day" episode. In that case, the family roles are a little broad/stereotyped for my comfort, even if they aren't outright racist/ignorant.
On another tip, I think there's a lot more the show could do to annihilate the teaching profession, and skewer pretensions of public education. In "Eastbound and Down" I always liked the parts that were about actually baseball –– and professional sports –– as much as the interpersonal dynamics between Kenny and Stevie or whoever. But VP's school setting is really underused –- and the escalation of Brown's conflict w/ the crotchety old hippy teacher is interesting (so far).
― remy bean, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link
manipulative Asian woman w/ draconian mother
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they get fleshed out in interesting ways in future episodes tbh, seems to be the strategy of this show so far with supporting characters
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link
THERES LIKE 2 EPISODES LEFT
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link