Redd's Roster of Restaurants of the Old Weird New York

Which also mentions another gone place I can't quite remember:
River Diner, 11th Avenue and 37th Street

Which is mentioned in this diner roundup I don't think has been linked to yet:
http://forgotten-ny.com/2001/12/nothing-could-be-finer-a-look-at-nyc-diners/

More about Bazzini:
http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_311/beforeitwas.html

Did you use this webpage to learn that?
http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/a/afterhours.html#.V4w0Ab_EynM

No, it's on nysonglines.com and I saw it on some other site too

Ah, I see.

Meant to post this link to a picture of La Jumelle.

Didn't realize until looking up stuff for this thread that Mezzaluna and Mezzogiorno were connected.

El Teddy's, called El Internacional (sic) at the time, was where I met my wife :)

didn't like Aggie's kinda remembering Aggie herself being a pill

there was a great pseudo-healthy place in Tribeca called Nosmo King (no smoking lol when you still could) for a few awhile during the early 90s. also ate at the famed artists diner Food in Soho a few times before it closed. really tasty and dirt cheap college-town hippie grits

Went by the South Street Seaport area two weeks ago and observed that
The Bridge Cafe, 279 Water Street
is still not reopened and still dealing with Sandy damage

Jeremy's Ale House, 228 Front Street (pre-2004 location 254 Front Street) is open

The Paris Hotel/Café, 119 South Street, at Peck Slip
has reopened after dealing with Sandy damage.

Seaport links:
http://ny.curbed.com/2013/9/5/10201344/chronicling-the-south-street-seaports-post-sandy-decline
http://forgotten-ny.com/2012/09/forgottentour-58-recap-south-street-seaport/

Flutie's, 89 South Street @ Pier 17 (where there was also a Caroline's At The Seaport comedy club)
closed in 1991.

Roebling's Bar and Grill, 11 Fulton Street, in Fulton Market Building
closed in 1995.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/04/30/nyregion/neighborhood-report-lower-manhattan-fulton-market-building-less-more-super.html

Gianni's, 15 Fulton Street
Long gone, barely an internet ghost. Mostly shows up in the listing sections of old New York magazine's in Google Books. Or old New York Times Restaurant week roundups such as this one. How many can you remember?
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/06/23/garden/lunches-for-19.92-were-so-popular-they-re-now-19.93.html

Some more pictures of the P & G Cafe
http://evgrieve.com/2008/09/appreciation-p-g-cafe.html

And another American Psycho roundup that we need to dig into.
http://www.scoutingny.com/patrick-batemans-new-york-what-happened-to-the-world-of-american-psycho/

First Avenue
Maxwell's Plum, 1181 First Avenue, at 64th
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/11/nyregion/maxwell-s-plum-a-60-s-symbol-closes.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/01/13/nyregion/last-mob-at-maxwell-s-plum-bids-on-glass-and-menagerie.html

Pancho Villa's, 1125 First Avenue, at 62nd
(look in New York Magazine, Google Books if you want to read about)

Don't really remember going into these places, but certainly walked by all the time. I have a very vague memory of somebody telling me the owner of Pancho Villa's was named Roman Chapa and he used to study Taekwondo side by side with Gregory Hines (there are some copies of Black Belt magazine on Google Books in which you can read about some of HInes' competitive matches)

Another Upper East Side place I never set foot in but it had a really great name:
The Ravelled Sleave, 1383 Third Avenue, near 79th Street

A goldmine of Brooklyn info found in searching the Google Book of 2004's
Brooklyn!, 3rd Edition: The Ultimate Guide to New York's Most Happening Borough
By Ellen Freudenheim, Anna Wiener

Such as:
Banania Cafe, 241 Smith, at Douglass
Cafe LULUc, 214 Smith, between Baltic and Butler, (still there)
Osaka, 272 Court, between Kane and DeGraw (still there)
Halcyon, 227 Smith, between Butler and Douglass

i remember driving by Maxwell plum's several times when I was a kid and being fascinated, this would have been mid to late 70s

maxwell's plum
it looked so adult and exotic

How could I mention Maxwell's Plum without mentioning another, similar place I don't think I ever entered,
The Quilted Giraffe

http://www.grubstreet.com/2011/10/quilted_giraffe.html
http://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/dining/a980/quilted-giraffe-profile/
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/30/garden/the-quilted-giraffe-joins-the-dinosaurs.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/06/dining/the-quilted-giraffe-cooks-again.html

Address was 550 Madison, which for decades was known as the Sony Building, when it was owned by Sony. An ilxor or two used to go there sometimes to participate in an annual music trivia contest. The building not the restaurant.

Theater district:
Cafe Edison, 228 West 47th
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/07/nyregion/cafe-edison-a-longtime-broadway-hangout-is-closing.html

http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2014/11/cafe-edison.html
http://observer.com/2014/11/after-34-years-of-broadway-history-cafe-edison-is-closing/
http://ny.eater.com/2015/1/5/7493575/weeks-after-closing-times-square-classic-cafe-edison-has-already-been

It's sleepytime. Will leave you with article about Florent's life after Florent.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/03/nyregion/florent-morellet-revels-in-a-new-scene-in-brooklyn.html?_r=0

Okay, just one last thing:
Map of Hudson Square retail, including several places we've mentioned:
http://330hudsonnyc.com/pdf/330Hudson_RetailMap.pdf

This has a very similar map:
http://www.cbre.us/o/newyorkcity/AssetLibrary/330%20Hudson%20Retail%20PDF_v12.pdf

That NYT Florent article is amazing. I wonder how he's holding up now.

Think they should make a combination Celebrity Chef/Big Brother-style reality show featuring Florent, Aggie, the guy from Patois and the daughter of the guy behind Maxwell's Plum.

I just remembered another small connective fiber here: Aggie was working at Giorgione 508 and when it closed she appeared a little while later at Walker's. Cannot use intranetz to verify but I am reasonably sure my memory is correct on this.

I skimmed through a Greenwich Village guidebook last night to look at the lists of restaurants and shops. I'm trying to remember if there was anything listed that is still around!

I have a guidebook from 1959 called New York Places & Pleasures, which believe it or not describes some still-surviving restaurants

Somewhere I have a guidebook to Soho from the 70s that has very detailed maps of all the galleries. I always wanted to walk around with it to see what luxury stores they've all turned into.

(Where I worked is a Hugo Boss.)

I've done some walking around like that trying to pinpoint old 1960s nightspots. It can be depressing because often the original building no longer exists

For those who want to dine old-school, here are some eateries mentioned in New York Places & Pleasures (1959; 1960 printing) that are still in business today at the same location:

Angelo's of Mulberry Street 146 Mulberry St. (near Grand)

Barbetta 321 W. 46th St.

Broadway Joe Steakhouse 315 W. 46th St.

Fujj (Sushi) 238 W. 56th St.

Gallagher's 228 W. 52nd St.

Grotta Azzurra 387 Broome St./177 Mulberry St. (was closed 1997-2003)

Isle of Capri 1028 3rd Ave. (@61st St.)

Keen's (English) Chophouse 72 W. 36th St.

Nom Wah Tea Parlor 13 Doyers St.

Old Homestead Steakhouse 56 9th Ave. (14th/15th Sts.)

Russian Tea Room 150 W. 57th St.

Serendipity 225 E. 60th St.

Sevilla 62 Charles St.

Le Veau d'Or 129 E. 60th St.

Until last weekend that list would've included the Four Seasons Brasserie at 99 E. 52nd St.

Flo says a few questionable things in that NY Times article but this is OTM and, er quite pertinent to this thread:

“I’m so sick of everyone in Manhattan complaining about the way things used to be.”

Who's complaining?

Trying to remember the name of the very old school restaurant that was in the Fulton Mall in Brooklyn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gage_and_Tollner

I liked Aggie's pesto omelette. It was the first place I tasted pesto!

Pao had a great cod and potatoes casserole. And gorgeous waitresses. Didn't know it was gone but doesn't surprise me, either.

Has Chumley's been mentioned yet?

What about Lansky Lounge, at Delancey and Norfolk? Good food, good DJs, a nice homage to Jewish gangsters. Long gone though.

My dad took me to Chumley's when i was 14. I was in awe that he knew which door it was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gage_and_Tollner🔗🔗

Lupe's on 6th and Spring seems like the kind of place that should have closed ten years ago, but it was still there last time I checked (about two years ago)

Sorry, 6th and Broome

6th and Watts!

Lol. I walked by there a month ago, on my way to Alidoro, which not only is still going but has another location now in midtown and was also surprised to see it was still there. Took my a while to figure out that the line of tourists waiting hours in the hot sun across the street were going to some trendy craft beer joint.

Not quite in the spirit of this thread but placed here for reference The Most Important Restaurants in Forty Years

Article about How Brooklyn Became Foodie Heaven. Cites Cucina as the pioneer, mentions Al Di La and Noodle Pudding.

Of course parallel to the blossoming of Fifth Ave. in Park Slope there was the Smith St. restaurant explosion (late '90s), which we've alluded to upthread - Patois being the pioneer. Here's a pessimistic take on Smith St. today:

http://www.bkmag.com/2016/03/22/the-rise-and-fall-of-smith-street/

Thanks for that article, Josefa. Did a little Redd's Roster research tonight, not sure when I will be able to post the results.

Referred to some information on this thread this evening. Very handy, thanks everybody for your hard work. I think I had a few more crumbs to add but nothing major.

http://whalebonemag.com/meet-married-couple-photographing-disappearing-face-new-york/

Lanza's is apparently closed for good. Had a 114-year run.

And on the more fancy-pants tip, Da Silvano is out of business too after 41 years.