Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

one thing i am grateful to the these ppl for is using humour to puncture the stifling walking-on-eggshells atmosphere on peak Social Justice internet of a couple years ago. i think the wave of SJ stuff was essentially very net good for everyone but there was some overreach and it kinda felt no fun and shrill after a certain pt

ilx has been due an american irish v. ireland irish tiff imho

I used to be very suspicious of St Patricks Day and other commodifications and caricatures of irish identity but I heard someone else express that view once and my Irish contrarianism kicked in. Now I'm all about it.

my dad is bigger than your dad hes got 8 cars and a house in ireland

Sing it!

Here comes the hotstepper

Jesus lads im being serious you need to not do that ffs

Jesus Lads: the original Socialist Bros

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/us/oberlin-professor-accused-of-anti-semitic-remarks-is-placed-on-paid-leave.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

A professor at Oberlin College who made a series of Facebook posts that suggested that Israeli and United States intelligence services were behind terror attacks has been placed on paid leave while the college continues to review the case, the college said Wednesday.

In a statement from Scott Wargo, the director of media relations for Oberlin, the college said that it had been “considering carefully the grave issues surrounding the anti-Semitic postings on social media by Oberlin faculty member Dr. Joy Karega.”

The statement continued: “The faculty governance process that began thereafter is ongoing, and the Oberlin administration will continue to respect this process as it plays out. Until that process is complete, Dr. Karega has been placed on paid leave and will not teach at Oberlin.”

In February, the news site The Tower published the posts made by Dr. Karega, an assistant professor who teaches rhetoric and composition, most dated back to early 2015. The private liberal arts school in Ohio at first defended its faculty members’ rights to express personal views, but in March, Clyde S. McGregor, the board chairman, wrote in a statement on behalf of the college’s board of trustees that “these grave issues must be considered expeditiously.”

That statement also described the posts Dr. Karega made as “anti-Semitic and abhorrent.” In her posts, Dr. Karega suggested that the Islamic State was funded by the C.I.A. and the Mossad organization, the Israeli intelligence service, and that Mossad was behind the Charlie Hebdo shootings in Paris.

In another post, she wrote, “it seems obvious that the same people behind the massacre in Gaza are behind the shooting down” of a Malaysia Airlines plane in 2014. An inquiry in 2015 concluded that the aircraft was likely hit by a Russian-made missile.

Mr. Wargo did not say when Dr. Karega had been placed on leave. Dr. Karega did not immediately respond to an email request for comment on Wednesday.

The president of the college, Marvin Krislov, told alumni in an email message on Wednesday that he was “committed to continuing and completing an equitable review process.”

On Facebook, Dr. Karega seemed to respond: “Equitable?” she wrote on Wednesday, before adding that she had no comment and was on vacation with her daughter.

nothing quoted here seems remotely anti-semitic but regardless, kind of a...problematic look for a liberal arts university

Weird conspiracy theories about Mossad/Zionists have a tinge of anti-Semitism to them for sure though. It's Protocols stuff. BTW she also had a lot of posts about the Rothschilds.

tbf though, the greater concern for me than anti-Semitism would just be that she sounds batshit

I have been following this story, and yeah, she is a full-on anti-Semite; we are not talking about Steven Salaita here, we're talking Jew-money-controls-the-media-and-hides-the-truth stuff.

it's cool guys I talked to the Elders of Zion and she'll be out of a job within the week

sssssssssssshhhhhhhhhh

The Provost of Zion

who's turn is it to bring the bagels to the next meeting?

"Mossad was behind the Charlie Hebdo shootings in Paris"

well since it is paid leave hopefully she comes up with better material. i'm pulling for her.

Remarkably, Mossad is both the creator of ISIS and attempting to draw European powers into a war against ISIS. It's next level black ops.

they neglected to mention her "rothschilds control the world" posts

(i see others got there first)

I have been following this story, and yeah, she is a full-on anti-Semite; we are not talking about Steven Salaita here, we're talking Jew-money-controls-the-media-and-hides-the-truth stuff.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:41 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seems otm

she seems unstable; how did she get a job at oberlin in the first place?

this is a decent rundown of her worldview: http://forward.com/opinion/335007/inside-the-twisted-anti-semitic-mind-of-oberlin-professor-joy-karega/

it's weird to see the usual conspiracy mindset being cast in academies

er, damn auto-correct: ACADEMESE

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/us/college-protests-alumni-donations.html

for people complaining today's students are coddled and oversensitive, they sure sound whiny

yes, but it's their money

i would feel worse if their chief examples weren't places with massive endowments like princeton and amherst

and yale (endowment: $27 billion)

"Their" money --pshaw! Some communist you are!

lol i just meant that there are higher stakes for the university than can just be dismissed with "stop complaining" - fwiw i agree w/ u that they sound whiney. i also agree that they should be forcibly liberated of their money but i don't think we should give it to yale. yale's funding should also be forcibly liberated.

Agree. Expropriation for Amherst is not high on my wish list.

chait set himself up here

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/761604753411436548

now he's complaining about "leftists" accusing him of supporting trump

Wow tweets are not funny

i'm not sure who we're supposed to be mad at, or who we are supposed to be laughing at, here. sterling, can you clarify?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxuiJUMun7A

afaict the center of the socialist/weird twitter venn diagram thinks chait is a total dope, so anything that annoys him is by definition worthwhile or funny

i may be wrong though, i sometimes struggle with pointless twitter beefs

chait posted a dumb thing saying "don't post the dog thing". so of course everyone clowns him by posting the dog thing, which is also dumb.

then chait claims this is harassment by the online left because he's not ideologically pure enough, which is amazing and hilarious.

i mean its like in middle school when the teacher says "please stop snapping that rubber band" to a student so all the students get out rubber bands and won't stop snapping them all period and the teacher just freaks out.

except the teacher doesn't blame communists for it usually

chait is smart. people post dumb stuff on twitter sometimes. who cares.

/tombstone engraving

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/22/us/as-homeless-find-refuge-in-forests-anger-is-palpable-in-nearby-towns.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Some residents have begun taking photographs of hitchhikers or videotaping confrontations with homeless people camping in the woods and posting them online, including on a private Facebook page created recently called Peak to Peak Forest Watch. Some say the campers have cursed at them for driving past without picking them up, or yelled at them while they were cycling or hiking. They say they no longer feel comfortable in some parts of the woods.

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/trump-the-university-of-chicago-and-the-collapse-of-public-language

The trouble in San Francisco, I realized, wasn’t that the warring tribes followed different doctrines. It was that they followed the same doctrine, abstractly stated, but had less and less of a way to gather and work from the abstract into the specific. Everyone was operating as a good San Francisco liberal, struggling against the establishment, outside the system, for the people. Ironically, this meant there was less and less system left, no common terms by which the whole community could move ahead. Public language, as I put it in the piece, was coming unmoored from public process. I wondered what the future would bring if the rhetoric of our best ideals kept moving in this direction—if people of a single political identity couldn’t agree on the real sense of the words that, they were certain, gave voice to their values.

That Heller-piece eloquently describes the chaos that arises when the members of the fourth estate hasn't read enough Habermas.

I do agree with quite a lot of it, btw.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/07/us/campuses-cautiously-train-freshmen-against-subtle-insults.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

hey you guys

"Train" seems like a loaded term here.

may be triggering for students who were raised in labs