Comedy when bear attacks, horror when bear fails to eat DiCaprio
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 July 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link
Been looking over Fangoria covers (why is there no database of them all?), some real surprises in there, but it's usually some sort of character or creature that required special effects or someone threatening (for Twilight New Moon they used an angry faced guy with red eyes), but they did also have characters like Spock, C3PO and R2D2 on occasion. In Book Of Lists: Horror, one of the editors listed the covers he regretted most.
I think if there was only the first Alien film more people would say it's horror. 1-4 certainly have quite powerful horror imagery.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 15 July 2016 17:46 (eight years ago) link
How many posts before a new thread is required?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 15 July 2016 17:48 (eight years ago) link
Fangoria didn't start as a horror-specific magazine so using their covers as a rubric might be problematic.
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 July 2016 17:48 (eight years ago) link
I guess this is related, though I can't draw any conclusions from it: I recently started a goodreads account, and created two shelves that cover my horror books - 'horror and mystery' and 'speculative fiction'. Anything that's horror goes in both, but I'd look in them for different reasons. And I have to say that the few 'mystery' books I have seem far more out of place with horror than horror and sci-fi sitting together.
― emil.y, Friday, 15 July 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link
Wonder why they called it Fangoria if they wanted to have broader coverage? They still feature superhero, fantasy and scifi films, especially if they have creatures.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 15 July 2016 17:55 (eight years ago) link
It's a mystery, for sure.
"Hey, guys, I just realized that our magazine sounds like a horror rag. Maybe we should shift our focus?"
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 July 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link
The revenant: horror or comedy?
Clearly it is a horror-comedy.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 July 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link
i remember when the american trailer called John Woo's "The Killer" a "thriller/comedy that will leave you breathless!"
― nomar, Friday, 15 July 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link
*its american trailer
― nomar, Friday, 15 July 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link
I feel like everyone agreed that You're Next was a horror movie, so is the line whether people are wearing masks then?
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Saturday, 16 July 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link
i don't think you're next is a horror movie, but i was more willing to indulge the consensus in that case. perhaps because it acts a bit more like a horror movie? in terms of music, suspense & scare setups, etc. also yeah, the mysterious masked "them" out there trying to get into our house and kills us.
― Best Beloved Trumppence (contenderizer), Sunday, 17 July 2016 04:25 (eight years ago) link
See, I barely thought of "You're Next" as horror (and certainly not "The Guest," which I've seen even more inexplicably categorized as horror). "You're Next" is sort of a clever twist on horror that takes horror tropes and turns them around.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 July 2016 04:29 (eight years ago) link
Horror is just a marketing term, everybody on the scene calls them "blood pictures"
― O, Barack: flaws (wins), Sunday, 17 July 2016 07:57 (eight years ago) link
Or 'blood sausages' in the UK
― Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 17 July 2016 08:54 (eight years ago) link
"The Guest," which I've seen even more inexplicably categorized as horror
SPOILER WARNING
for most of its running time, the guest is nearly as far from horror as green room, but the third act turns into an extended love letter to carpenter's halloween. this is set up early with the holiday setting, but kept on the back burner for most of the film's running time. the climax, with the chase through the haunted house, however, is clearly supposed to push 80s horror nostalgia buttons. and the villain clearly turns into something like "the boogeyman" in the film's final moments.
― Best Beloved Trumppence (contenderizer), Monday, 18 July 2016 00:59 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, but this came after a long turn into the Terminator.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 July 2016 01:23 (eight years ago) link
speaking of, apparently the woods is now called....blair witch??????!??????
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 July 2016 10:22 (eight years ago) link
WTF? Why would they do that? I've even seen posters in theaters for the The Woods. So people looking forward to The Woods will ... never see it? Because it will be released as a Blair Witch reboot? Anyway, nice stunt, I guess, and I'm sure the film will be scary, but given that just about every found footage movie is to some degree a Blair Witch sequel, I don't see the point. Like Avatar, it's a movie I've never heard anyone truly want more of.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 July 2016 12:36 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, that's crazy.
Moving on, I saw Deathgasm. Was OK, just OK, as a vehicle for bad taste gross-out FX, but there are one or two good gags (in every sense).
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 July 2016 12:38 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=girSv9UH_V8
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 July 2016 14:12 (eight years ago) link
ugh
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 23 July 2016 14:27 (eight years ago) link
idk as much as i'm shocked i'm kinda totally psyched
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 July 2016 14:30 (eight years ago) link
I am so all in on this one.
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Saturday, 23 July 2016 14:49 (eight years ago) link
I AM SO ALL IN ON THIS ONE!!!
and i didn't even really like the blair witch project
― Twilight Sparkle from My Little Pony said (contenderizer), Saturday, 23 July 2016 15:23 (eight years ago) link
deathgasm was not great, but cute and fun, way better than most of the recent splatter-comedy glut
― Twilight Sparkle from My Little Pony said (contenderizer), Saturday, 23 July 2016 15:24 (eight years ago) link
but given that just about every found footage movie is to some degree a Blair Witch sequel, I don't see the point. Like Avatar, it's a movie I've never heard anyone truly want more of.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, July 23, 2016 5:36 AM (2 hours ago)
it's seriously loved by a lot of younger horror fans
― Twilight Sparkle from My Little Pony said (contenderizer), Saturday, 23 July 2016 15:25 (eight years ago) link
Did they change it cause there's already a pretty fine The Woods by lucky mckee?
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 23 July 2016 15:57 (eight years ago) link
xpost I liked Blair Witch a lot and have no problem with the first movie. I just mean that nobody wanted *more* Blair Witch, in the form of a reboot/sequel.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 July 2016 16:31 (eight years ago) link
i watched book of shadows recently and it is almost unbelievably horrible
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 July 2016 17:08 (eight years ago) link
not even really enjoyably so, though there are parts
McKee's The Woods was terrific. The best kind of moody, and with one of my favorite performances from Patricia Clarkson. It wasn't as showy as May, so it never seemed to gain much traction, even among horror fans.
I'm game for the new Blair Witch. Book Of Shadows was damn near unwatchable, so this will at least have a very, very low bar to clear.
― jon_oh, Saturday, 23 July 2016 17:08 (eight years ago) link
There was once a great feature in a film magazine with quotes from film people before and after their film was out. For Book Of Shadows it was the director sayingBefore: I think people will be satisfied.After: People were not satisfied.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 23 July 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link
watched the blackcoat's daughter last night, had a good vibe, i was into it
― just sayin, Saturday, 23 July 2016 22:17 (eight years ago) link
not super happy about The Woods turning into Blair Witch redux but eh i'm in anyway
― Nhex, Sunday, 24 July 2016 01:24 (eight years ago) link
really not looking forward to another nauseating found footage FPS theatrical experience tho
I met McKee once, super nice guy who I made laugh w a very corny joke
The Woman is my fave of his
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 24 July 2016 01:49 (eight years ago) link
blair witch (the new one) does not actually seem like it's found footage/fps
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 July 2016 05:50 (eight years ago) link
parts of the trailer seemed like it... but yeah, it's probably not gonna be the whole thing like the original Blair Witch (or Paranormal Activity, The Visit, etc.)
― Nhex, Sunday, 24 July 2016 05:54 (eight years ago) link
Mainly, the film is shown though ear cameras (basically Bluetooth headsets with cameras on them), drone footage, and a super HD SLR.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/movie-review-blair-witch-is-the-amazing-sequel-you-nev-1784170295
― just sayin, Sunday, 24 July 2016 06:07 (eight years ago) link
You guys. "The Boy" is really, really good. I'm as baffled as you are.
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 04:05 (eight years ago) link
saw "green room" -- it was engaging, well-made, but didn't really add up to much IMO.
although i watched it at 3 AM after having read a bunch of articles about rabid anti-immigrant groups in idaho and the combo made me really paranoid about some future dystopia where we are all on the run from neo-nazi punk rockers.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 04:46 (eight years ago) link
i def. think green room is only marginally a horror movie -- by noel carroll's widely-embraced theory of horror it isn't a horror film at all. but even by a less rigid definition, the reliance on horror syntax is mostly limited to the second-to-last reel.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 04:51 (eight years ago) link
the boy was not very good at all imo, but it was entertaining
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 05:08 (eight years ago) link
What does that even mean?
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Monday, 8 August 2016 04:21 (eight years ago) link
uh that it was fun to watch even though it's super flimsy and the whole final act is real rough?
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 8 August 2016 04:26 (eight years ago) link
So flimsy because?
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Monday, 8 August 2016 04:59 (eight years ago) link
Also maybe I'm just getting jaded here, but the vibe of "I enjoyed this but it's not actually good" that keeps showing up in this thread is kind of a bummer. Not trying to single you out Brad.
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Monday, 8 August 2016 05:06 (eight years ago) link
Combined of course with my complete rejection of bizarre gate keeping of what gets to be horror, which is the other recent topic.
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Monday, 8 August 2016 05:12 (eight years ago) link
what is it not possible to have fun with something while acknowledging its limitations? I get that it's sometimes frustrating when ppl do that (I felt a similar frustration with people going out of their way to call all that jazz "not great" in its thread, but idk this movie was kinda not great! also to get into why I'd have to prob talk about the tension-destroying twist
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 8 August 2016 06:56 (eight years ago) link