ok lets all shit our pants to something new: post 2005 horror film thread

Is Jurassic Park a horror

are you a horror are you a lady

I would argue that, just as my chocolate is still chocolate after you get your peanut butter in it, so too is a horror movie still horror when it overlaps with other genres.

well what is the chocolate:peanut butter ratio, cuz if it's more like 1:2 than I would argue really it's peanut butter

xpost That's a good point, I don't necessarily consider Alien horror, but then again, I think I *would* consider the rampaging werewolf siege of Dog Soldiers horror. Because werewolves. But then ... not carnivorous aliens?

Some similar debate going on in the AV Club comedy thread. Lots of funny movies are not comedies, imo. Or are they?

If a boat is replaced plank-by-plank

We have been having the horror and comedy arguments I think literally the entire time I've been on ILX. Can't believe we haven't solved the equation yet.

If a boat is replaced plank-by-plank

Shark eats boat PROBLEM SOLVED

Why haven't we just polled each individual film to determine whether it is a horror or a comedy

The revenant: horror or comedy?

Comedy when bear attacks, horror when bear fails to eat DiCaprio

Been looking over Fangoria covers (why is there no database of them all?), some real surprises in there, but it's usually some sort of character or creature that required special effects or someone threatening (for Twilight New Moon they used an angry faced guy with red eyes), but they did also have characters like Spock, C3PO and R2D2 on occasion.
In Book Of Lists: Horror, one of the editors listed the covers he regretted most.

I think if there was only the first Alien film more people would say it's horror. 1-4 certainly have quite powerful horror imagery.

How many posts before a new thread is required?

Fangoria didn't start as a horror-specific magazine so using their covers as a rubric might be problematic.

I guess this is related, though I can't draw any conclusions from it: I recently started a goodreads account, and created two shelves that cover my horror books - 'horror and mystery' and 'speculative fiction'. Anything that's horror goes in both, but I'd look in them for different reasons. And I have to say that the few 'mystery' books I have seem far more out of place with horror than horror and sci-fi sitting together.

Wonder why they called it Fangoria if they wanted to have broader coverage? They still feature superhero, fantasy and scifi films, especially if they have creatures.

It's a mystery, for sure.

"Hey, guys, I just realized that our magazine sounds like a horror rag. Maybe we should shift our focus?"

The revenant: horror or comedy?

Clearly it is a horror-comedy.

i remember when the american trailer called John Woo's "The Killer" a "thriller/comedy that will leave you breathless!"

*its american trailer

I feel like everyone agreed that You're Next was a horror movie, so is the line whether people are wearing masks then?

i don't think you're next is a horror movie, but i was more willing to indulge the consensus in that case. perhaps because it acts a bit more like a horror movie? in terms of music, suspense & scare setups, etc. also yeah, the mysterious masked "them" out there trying to get into our house and kills us.

See, I barely thought of "You're Next" as horror (and certainly not "The Guest," which I've seen even more inexplicably categorized as horror). "You're Next" is sort of a clever twist on horror that takes horror tropes and turns them around.

Horror is just a marketing term, everybody on the scene calls them "blood pictures"

Or 'blood sausages' in the UK

"The Guest," which I've seen even more inexplicably categorized as horror

SPOILER WARNING

for most of its running time, the guest is nearly as far from horror as green room, but the third act turns into an extended love letter to carpenter's halloween. this is set up early with the holiday setting, but kept on the back burner for most of the film's running time. the climax, with the chase through the haunted house, however, is clearly supposed to push 80s horror nostalgia buttons. and the villain clearly turns into something like "the boogeyman" in the film's final moments.

Yeah, but this came after a long turn into the Terminator.

speaking of, apparently the woods is now called....blair witch??????!??????

WTF? Why would they do that? I've even seen posters in theaters for the The Woods. So people looking forward to The Woods will ... never see it? Because it will be released as a Blair Witch reboot? Anyway, nice stunt, I guess, and I'm sure the film will be scary, but given that just about every found footage movie is to some degree a Blair Witch sequel, I don't see the point. Like Avatar, it's a movie I've never heard anyone truly want more of.

Yeah, that's crazy.

Moving on, I saw Deathgasm. Was OK, just OK, as a vehicle for bad taste gross-out FX, but there are one or two good gags (in every sense).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=girSv9UH_V8

ugh

idk as much as i'm shocked i'm kinda totally psyched

I am so all in on this one.

I AM SO ALL IN ON THIS ONE!!!

and i didn't even really like the blair witch project

deathgasm was not great, but cute and fun, way better than most of the recent splatter-comedy glut

but given that just about every found footage movie is to some degree a Blair Witch sequel, I don't see the point. Like Avatar, it's a movie I've never heard anyone truly want more of.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, July 23, 2016 5:36 AM (2 hours ago)

it's seriously loved by a lot of younger horror fans

Did they change it cause there's already a pretty fine The Woods by lucky mckee?

xpost I liked Blair Witch a lot and have no problem with the first movie. I just mean that nobody wanted *more* Blair Witch, in the form of a reboot/sequel.

i watched book of shadows recently and it is almost unbelievably horrible

not even really enjoyably so, though there are parts

McKee's The Woods was terrific. The best kind of moody, and with one of my favorite performances from Patricia Clarkson. It wasn't as showy as May, so it never seemed to gain much traction, even among horror fans.

I'm game for the new Blair Witch. Book Of Shadows was damn near unwatchable, so this will at least have a very, very low bar to clear.

There was once a great feature in a film magazine with quotes from film people before and after their film was out. For Book Of Shadows it was the director saying
Before: I think people will be satisfied.
After: People were not satisfied.

watched the blackcoat's daughter last night, had a good vibe, i was into it

not super happy about The Woods turning into Blair Witch redux but eh i'm in anyway

really not looking forward to another nauseating found footage FPS theatrical experience tho

I met McKee once, super nice guy who I made laugh w a very corny joke

The Woman is my fave of his

blair witch (the new one) does not actually seem like it's found footage/fps

parts of the trailer seemed like it... but yeah, it's probably not gonna be the whole thing like the original Blair Witch (or Paranormal Activity, The Visit, etc.)

Mainly, the film is shown though ear cameras (basically Bluetooth headsets with cameras on them), drone footage, and a super HD SLR.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/movie-review-blair-witch-is-the-amazing-sequel-you-nev-1784170295