xp top tip - when a female public figure is claiming harassment, the burden of proof is really really far on the side of those claiming she's making it up.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link
omg
https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/752915337939718144
― soref, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link
young passionate supporter of neolib economics
― and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 17:31 (eight years ago) link
Wonder if the rallies Angela has will bring the same numbers in as Jeremy's short notice meetings did?
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 17:45 (eight years ago) link
ppl suggesting that the Corbyn lookalike thing is a set up, I was hoping that it was just some hapless bearded gentleman who happened to walk past and had no idea was going on
― soref, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 17:51 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnLkyboWAAAAtfb.jpg
― soref, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 17:55 (eight years ago) link
The Jamie Vardy lookalike is on the phone now giving him tips.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 18:03 (eight years ago) link
The Vardy lookalike has been getting abuse since Norwexit
― lilcraigyboi (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link
Corbyn on the ballot!
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 18:54 (eight years ago) link
poor Angela Eagle
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link
So does that mean that Eagle is going to go by what she said earlier?THough i have just heard that Owen Smith is also on. So not sure what that will mean.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link
I mean it's despicable that this was even in question enough that people should have to feel relieved about this outcome but
hahahaha
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link
My guess is there'll be loads of them on the ballot paper and they'll all get out of the way for whoever ends up polling get closest to Corbyn.
Or they could all dumbly run up against each other and split the vote again, who even knows.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link
Can't actually remember the last time I heard some good news in politics, but otoh what a bag of arses they all look
― coygbiv (NickB), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link
stoked for the Dan Jarvis campaign where the leaflets just have the words "army man" in different fonts and sizes at random intervals
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link
"It's a man's life in the Parliamentary Labour Party."
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:13 (eight years ago) link
I paid a pound
― O, Barack: flaws (wins), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link
Their next cunning plan will be to borrow a few million off Murdoch and pay a click farm to give Eagle 200000 fake Labour members :p
As much as I immensely dislike what the likes of Eagle represent and how they conduct themselves, I do almost genuinely feel sorry for her now.
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:34 (eight years ago) link
Nobody who registered in the last six months will be allowed to vote, according to the BBC - so whatever recruitment push Saving Labour were going for clearly didn't work. It's also being reported that the £3 registered supporters need to pay £25 to vote this time.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link
fucking ponzi scheme!
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:57 (eight years ago) link
I'd pay the £25, but ffs!
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link
Seems bizarre that you can't vote if you became a member five months ago but can if you register to pay £25 as a non-member in the two-day window they're opening up.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link
I want my pound back
― O, Barack: flaws (wins), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:02 (eight years ago) link
people who joined since Feb would be able to vote if they pay the £25 supporter fee, I guess? it does seem silly
― soref, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link
It seems like they do actually have a plan after all.
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link
He's going to walk it.
― AlanSmithee, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link
Labour party sure getting creative in response to threats to its trade union funding.
― So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link
I don't even know if i will be able to vote. As a low-down scratter member I only pay them £1.96 a month - they were asking me for more and I respectfully explained I've not even had a holiday for 4 years so get fucked!
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link
£25 fee is higher than the annual membership rate under-27s, trade unionists and those who are unemployed retired or work fewer than 16 hours a week: https://join.labour.org.uk/
difficult to see how the higher fee doesn't totally negate the point of the registered supporter scheme, I guess it would have been impossible for them to get rid of it all together? or figure that anti-Corbyn types who are willing to sign up to vote against him have more disposable income
xp to calzino
― soref, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link
labour.org seems to have been overwhelmed!
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link
Trying to rig the voting system towards your own dastardly end was what got them into this mess:p How much can Corbyn do to challenge these changes?not much I'd guess.
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link
Was the guy who was on BBC News channel saying that Corbyn was killing the Labour party after the announcement of him being on the ballot was announced really saying that the Unions were too?That's how I heard it as I was working away on the computer. But can't tell if that could be real.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link
Most reportage of Corbyn on the beeb ranges from sneering contempt to barely disguised hatred.
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link
do you mean this John McTernan interview? it's quite, um, something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IBqJlG7CL0
― soref, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I think so.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:32 (eight years ago) link
don't mind the Labour Party dying if it means douchebags like McTernan have to go and do something else instead
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:34 (eight years ago) link
Lol blaming Corbyn for brexit is something alright!
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link
🎶 I paid 25 quid into the Halifax, just to watch a party die 🎶
apologies to Johnny Cash
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:44 (eight years ago) link
still shd have had a "losing team gets the fuck out of the party" clause
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link
Not totally sure if me asking my union branch to switch my subs to the Labour affiliated fund last week was too little too late out here
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link
Even by Labour's recent history of giving shambles a good name, today's meeting of the ruling NEC takes the biscuit.Because at the end of the meeting, after a couple of pro-Corbyn members had left, and Corbyn himself had gone, a vote was taken on a motion not on the agenda, to exclude from the leadership vote anyone who joined the party in the past six months. So the 130,000 who signed up since Brexit, most of whom are thought to be Corbyn supporters, will be unable to vote.Now whatever you think of Corbyn, this looks and smells like gerrymandering by his opponents.Corbyn will definitely attempt to get the vote over-turned. And he may resort to the law, since Labour's website made clear that membership bought a vote.As for those who joined since January, they will be revolting.That said, if anyone wants to take part in the election, they now have two days to pay £25 and become a registered supporter.Which is the first example of the much feared post-Brexit inflation, since till today it cost just £3 to be such a voting supporter.
Because at the end of the meeting, after a couple of pro-Corbyn members had left, and Corbyn himself had gone, a vote was taken on a motion not on the agenda, to exclude from the leadership vote anyone who joined the party in the past six months. So the 130,000 who signed up since Brexit, most of whom are thought to be Corbyn supporters, will be unable to vote.
Now whatever you think of Corbyn, this looks and smells like gerrymandering by his opponents.
Corbyn will definitely attempt to get the vote over-turned. And he may resort to the law, since Labour's website made clear that membership bought a vote.As for those who joined since January, they will be revolting.
That said, if anyone wants to take part in the election, they now have two days to pay £25 and become a registered supporter.Which is the first example of the much feared post-Brexit inflation, since till today it cost just £3 to be such a voting supporter.
Robert Peston on Facebook.
Tempted to join BAME Labour for £5, which is apparently one of the cheaper ways to vote, but a large part of me just wants this whole mess to be over with. If this attempt doesn't work, they'll keep trying every nine months until one does.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 21:56 (eight years ago) link
lots of ppl on twitter seem to think that joining a union should be enough to get a vote
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 22:06 (eight years ago) link
being in an affiliated union no longer automatically gets you a vote, right? you have to opt in as a supporter?
― soref, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 22:08 (eight years ago) link
yeah, there's some box to check about political fund contributions
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 22:25 (eight years ago) link
if you join Labour as an affiliated union member they're then meant to contact your union to verify that you've opted in
This will no doubt be done smoothly and efficiently in the coming weeks
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 22:27 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link
What's the vote of no confidence in Eagle thing happening on the 22nd from Wallasey? Is that right? There was something on Newsnight before they interviewed her. Think that was the right date.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 00:05 (eight years ago) link
Full membership meeting for Wallasey branch July 22nd to vote on no confidence following expressed wish from membership that she support Corbyn. Doesn't that undermine her mandate?I don't think she came off that Newsnight interview that well either.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 07:04 (eight years ago) link
In theory they can deselect her as their MP which means someone else would stand in their seat at the next election but doesn't mean that she'd go immediately.
It looks like Owen Smith is going to throw his hat into the ring today as well so she's doubly doomed.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 07:07 (eight years ago) link
Heh, Corbyn must feel a bit like Auric Goldfinger when James Bond is pleading for his life before his balls get fried by a laser: "If I don't report back, 008 replaces me!" "Then I trust he will be more successful."
― So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 07:21 (eight years ago) link