Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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white supremacists also promote the idea that policing in black communities is some kind of "warzone" activity, I mean there are a lot of things in media, police subculture, and conservative middle class communities in general that contribute to cops having at a minimum a subconscious idea that a black person is threatening.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:03 (nine years ago)

apparently from the Castile arrest xxp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:03 (nine years ago)

maybe robot cops will be less likely to kill black people indiscriminately

― ejemplo (crüt), Friday, July 8, 2016 1:02 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not if they let white ppl program them

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:04 (nine years ago)

self-driving car that crashed didn't see color, iirc

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:04 (nine years ago)

We taught a twitter bot to be racist and anti-Semitic in like three hours, turning a robot into the dog from White Dog should be child's play.

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:05 (nine years ago)

Recently revisited this piece from last year:

Police Shootings Won't Stop Unless We Also Stop Shaking Down Black People
The dangers of turning police officers into revenue generators.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/police-shootings-traffic-stops-excessive-fines

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:05 (nine years ago)

http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/robocop_top.jpg

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:06 (nine years ago)

newt gingrich said this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm25nXqWEAAX7X3.jpg

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/07/08/newt-gingrich-white-americans-dont-understand-being-black-in-america/

honestly the most shocking thing so far

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:12 (nine years ago)

police need to be trained like monks, or Jedi or some shit

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:14 (nine years ago)

Trump said (in a Facebook post mostly about Dallas), "The senseless, tragic deaths of two people in Louisiana and Minnesota reminds us how much more needs to be done."

timellison, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:15 (nine years ago)

so it WAS Newt in the Jheri curl

ejemplo (crüt), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:16 (nine years ago)

xpost I believe he initially said "two motorists": http://hinterlandgazette.com/2016/07/donald-trump-finally-addresses-alton-sterling-philando-castile-shootings-get-slightly-wrong.html

some anal dread (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:17 (nine years ago)

I am likewise flabbergasted by that Newt Gingrich statement.

some anal dread (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:18 (nine years ago)

trump not actually going so far as to admit racism exists (outside of anti white racism of course)

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:18 (nine years ago)

In terms of risk, I was just talking to a friend about how Castile was reported to have a prior "record" of 31 minor traffic infringements. He was a school cafeteria worker (i.e. low wage) who presumably needed a car to get to work. Being poor plus black = missing insurance payments, not being able to renew license right away, not being able to fix stuff like broken tail lights, etc., and being black and riding in an old clunky car = being WAY more likely to get pulled over every single time you slip. So just thinking about how many more interactions with police he had to go through than the average person and then how much more likely it was that police would be aggressive with him each time it happened.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:19 (nine years ago)

I mean that's fucking crazy, 31 times. I've been pulled over exactly twice in my life and have definitely done my share of speeding, driving without proper documents on me (even if I had them), violating minor traffic rules, driving with a light out, etc.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:20 (nine years ago)

(to be clear he was probably pulled over more than 31 times, assuming some of those ended with a warning).

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:21 (nine years ago)

(er also I guess there could have been multiple infractions on a single stop, but w/e, that's a lot any way you slice it).

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:22 (nine years ago)

classic Newt - go from eye-opening legit cogent point to a totally irrelevant cultural dogwhistle about hip hop

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:32 (nine years ago)

I take that back, a more generous reading of his statement about alienation leading to sloganeering is certainly possible

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:34 (nine years ago)

woke newt

♫ Corbyn's on fire / PLP is terrified ♫ (jim in glasgow), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:35 (nine years ago)

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:37 (nine years ago)

I'm still boggling at that statement from Gingrich

also lol: so it WAS Newt in the Jheri curl

volumetric god rays (DJP), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:40 (nine years ago)

what the fuck

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:42 (nine years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/tFVzEEB.png

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:43 (nine years ago)

is that dumb tweet about the diverse people of our nation, and, if so, are latinos...tabasco??

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:44 (nine years ago)

i guess this is glaringly obvious but maybe it's time to change this model of choosing among the dregs of the public labor force to roam the streets with a license to kill

skateboard of education (rip van wanko), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:44 (nine years ago)

feel like she was just having feelings while eating breakfast

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:45 (nine years ago)

omg lagoon, the response to that Geraldo tweet

volumetric god rays (DJP), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:46 (nine years ago)

maybe robot cops will be less likely to kill black people indiscriminately

― ejemplo (crüt), Friday, July 8, 2016 1:02 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not if they let white ppl program them

― lag∞n, Friday, July 8, 2016 1:04 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and not if they teach them use historically "effective" heuristics and training data to train them

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:47 (nine years ago)

i think the tabasco is blood : [

nomar, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:48 (nine years ago)

http://66.media.tumblr.com/3746f585883ea8daa1e9aef64764811a/tumblr_ntp5nnKPKA1qagxv6o1_1280.jpg

O, Barack: flaws (wins), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:49 (nine years ago)

the gingrich thing is bizarre. in the same breath he offers empathy to black folks and suggests they are not "normal." it's like he can't sustain an anti-racist statement without at least one implicitly racist undertone.

xposts -- aren't cops in big cities paid pretty well? even rookie cops around here are paid more than 2x what i've ever made.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:49 (nine years ago)

regardless I think we all can agree that is a terrible attempt at a haiku

volumetric god rays (DJP), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:49 (nine years ago)

+ generous benefits, pensions, etc.

xposts

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:50 (nine years ago)

let's bury Geraldo in Al Capone's vault

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:50 (nine years ago)

aren't cops in big cities paid pretty well? even rookie cops around here are paid more than 2x what i've ever made.

― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, July 8, 2016 1:49 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it really varies i think like in ferguson which is a small department in the middle of a big city their cops werent making much over minimum wage

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:52 (nine years ago)

right, it varies pretty widely. but i don't think "poor pay" is a universal condition of being a cop that somehow helps explain the broad institutional problems.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:55 (nine years ago)

Apparently this was really just one guy.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:55 (nine years ago)

In most jurisdictions, cops are well-paid in the same sense that public school teachers are well-paid - good benefits, a decent middle-class/lower-middle-class income (before overtime and side-gigs for police). You won't starve but in urban areas it's not going to be easy.

Dallas PD had an issue a couple of years back about how few city cops could afford to live in the city itself if they wanted to raise a family.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:56 (nine years ago)

some of the shitest dunmb assholes that i went to high school with are now cops

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:57 (nine years ago)

I think whoever had the idea to blow the shooter up with the bomb robot probably should have to answer some questions, definitely don't think that is good procedure, even if they had to act immediately

Whoever made that call probably could have a pretty good future in software development with ideas like that, though

mh, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:58 (nine years ago)

someone tell the NY Times, they still had "two snipers" 20 mins ago

xxxp

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:58 (nine years ago)

some of the shitest dunmb assholes that i went to high school with are now cops

Same the world over.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:59 (nine years ago)

NY Times was where I saw this: http://www.nytimes.com/live/news-dallas-shooting-protest/johnson-was

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 July 2016 17:59 (nine years ago)

It's weird this turned out to be one guy, there was so much stuff going around suggesting multiple shooters, although I know I know fog of war and whatnot.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 8 July 2016 18:00 (nine years ago)

Jesus Christ,these fucking headlines. I'm bracing myself for something along the lines of 'Sniper Who Suggested That Whites Are Too Chickenshit To Engage In A Race War Kills Five White Police Officers'.

Although the most sinister yet is 'US Police Forces Respond to Dallas Attack With Grief, Action'.

some anal dread (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 July 2016 18:02 (nine years ago)

If it really was one guy, I really want to know more about what exactly prompted the police to detain these other suspects.

some anal dread (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 July 2016 18:02 (nine years ago)

there was footage of a guy shooting at ground level def not sniping guess it cldve been after he was on the move

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2016 18:03 (nine years ago)


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