Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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unless the car is drunk

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 1 July 2016 03:11 (nine years ago)

That's at least one Herbie film, right?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 July 2016 07:09 (nine years ago)

Seen so many techno-utopians on reddit and elsewhere screaming that it's the driver's fault for not taking over the autopilot when they saw the truck turning, not the software's fault. a) if you are not already driving the car, your reaction time is gonna be a lot slower, and b) if the autopilot works correctly for the first two months you have a car, of course you're gonna assume it works correctly all the time. people compare it to cruise control, but cruise control is waaaay more predictable. I don't even understand why people think an autopilot you have to monitor vigilantly is even a good idea

Vinnie, Friday, 1 July 2016 10:02 (nine years ago)

I don't even understand why people think an autopilot you have to monitor vigilantly is even a good idea.

Bingo! We have a winner!

This is not exactly a situation like airliners, where the human pilots are highly trained, highly paid professionals, with the built-in redundancy of a co-pilot who can take over for the main pilot at any moment. Plus there aren't many other objects to hit at 30,000 feet. In that situation an autopilot is just a tool for use by professionals. Ordinary cars and their drivers do not meet any of these qualifications.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 1 July 2016 17:20 (nine years ago)

even w airline pilots in the autopilot era you get things like air france 447, where the autopilot fails and at least one of the pilots hasn't actually played microsoft flight simulator enough (and/or is sufficiently panicked+confused) to know you nose down in a stall

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Friday, 1 July 2016 19:20 (nine years ago)

monitoring an autopilot vigilantly sounds like it would take more mental effort than driving

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 1 July 2016 20:34 (nine years ago)

i agree that an autopilot you have to monitor in a quick response situation like driving seems lethal, but 1 death in, what, a year?, seems like it's less lethal than letting the human drive.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 July 2016 20:36 (nine years ago)

1 death in, what, a year?

tbf, human-piloted cars were driven a few more miles and hours last year than the self-driving ones

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 1 July 2016 21:34 (nine years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/01/tesla-driver-killed-autopilot-self-driving-car-harry-potter

Tesla driver killed while using autopilot was watching Harry Potter, witness says

🐸a hairy howling toad torments a man whose wife is deathly ill (James Morrison), Saturday, 2 July 2016 00:03 (nine years ago)

Inattentius collisio!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 2 July 2016 00:13 (nine years ago)

one third of automobile deaths result from drunk driving and more than half involve no seatbelt, so musk's comparison needs to be taken with a massive grain of salt. So far it is certainly not apparent that self driving cars are as safe as human-driven by non drunks where you are wearing a restraint.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Saturday, 2 July 2016 00:14 (nine years ago)

Ouch from NYT: “[Joshua Brown] had said, ‘For something to catch Elon Musk’s eye, I can die and go to heaven now,’” said a neighbor, Krista Kitchen, choking up. “He was absolutely thrilled – and then a couple weeks later he died.”

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 2 July 2016 12:47 (nine years ago)

If this was a subplot on Silicon Valley we would be laughing

Οὖτις, Saturday, 2 July 2016 14:28 (nine years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmXghC9WAAAfbrU.jpg

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 2 July 2016 18:36 (nine years ago)

Rex: I was still young enough that I wanted to have a, like, a party hangout kind of life, and Seattle…seemed interesting at the time, but man, I just kept meeting people that — I always say it’s a city that has product managers who want to be vice presidents.

Paul: Ooof.

Rex: Like it’s a lot of, just…

Rich: Wow.

Paul: [wounded noise]

Rex: A lot of Amazon people…

Rich: That’s a rough tagline for Seattle tourism right there.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:42 (nine years ago)

they're easy to spot and avoid tho

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:59 (nine years ago)

caek, what is that from

ejemplo (crüt), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 17:02 (nine years ago)

sorry https://trackchanges.postlight.com/podcast-20-rex-sorgatz-the-other-side-of-fate-2151da51f998#.ivs4e4udy

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 17:05 (nine years ago)

hey I know that Paul Ford guy, was at his wedding and everything

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 17:06 (nine years ago)

what?!

mh, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 18:05 (nine years ago)

I'm surprised at the connection, but mostly surprised you aren't commenting on a thread about his wedding saying that you didn't go but heard it was a bad ceremony

mh, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 18:06 (nine years ago)

he married the woman who officiated my own wedding. we aren't best buds or anything, but his wife is an old college friend of mine

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 18:40 (nine years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnCBn18VMAAfqhw.jpg

mookieproof, Sunday, 10 July 2016 21:26 (nine years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ZeqyR0o.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 10 July 2016 23:13 (nine years ago)

Benioff is one of the least terrible though

El Tomboto, Monday, 11 July 2016 00:30 (nine years ago)

Like, he actually uses some of his money & influence on actual progressive political causes in the real world, he's not trying to invent Utopia in a west coast bunker and export it to the rest of us dummies

El Tomboto, Monday, 11 July 2016 00:33 (nine years ago)

Yeah he's ok w me

Tweet was inappropriate but its undeniable social media has been crucial un bringing this issue wide attention

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 July 2016 01:03 (nine years ago)

he is sorry

mh, Monday, 11 July 2016 14:22 (nine years ago)

Source?

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Monday, 11 July 2016 16:03 (nine years ago)

Sorry. Im sorry. Im trying to remove it

goole, Monday, 11 July 2016 16:28 (nine years ago)

yeah idk look at LBI's image

mh, Monday, 11 July 2016 18:04 (nine years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnXjMNOUsAAztY1.jpg:small

mookieproof, Friday, 15 July 2016 02:46 (nine years ago)

idk what 'expensify' is but they do realize the Lord of the Flies was a rotting pig's head on a stick, right?

five memes that i can hardly stand to view (Doctor Casino), Friday, 15 July 2016 05:07 (nine years ago)

oddly enough, so is the ceo of expensify

mh, Friday, 15 July 2016 14:44 (nine years ago)

should we have a thread for Sourpuss Valley techno-dystopianism?

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/07/pokemon-go-invasion-oliver-stone-snowden-surveillance/

It manipulates your behaviour. It has happened already quite a bit on the Internet, but you’ll see it everywhere—you'll see a new form of, frankly, a robot society, where they will know how you want to behave and they will make the mockup that matches how you behave and feed you. It’s what they call totalitarianism.

El Tomboto, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:51 (nine years ago)

lol the promos for that oliver stone snowden film look horrible

mh, Friday, 22 July 2016 15:20 (nine years ago)

I enjoy the work of Joseph Gordon-Levitt but hearing him do that monotone "I do very important work" voice made me shake my head

mh, Friday, 22 July 2016 15:25 (nine years ago)

Seems relevant, in terms of mocking SV shit:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/magazine/the-oppressive-gospel-of-minimalism.html

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Monday, 1 August 2016 17:22 (nine years ago)

the author retweeted this which is definitely an early stage homeware startup look right now

https://twitter.com/333333333433333/status/759038739951788032

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 1 August 2016 17:29 (nine years ago)

I think that's the shade of pink that BUTT uses

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Monday, 1 August 2016 17:31 (nine years ago)

He now carries nothing but a bag of clothes and a backpack containing a computer, an iPad and a smartphone. “I have zero other possessions,” he writes

Other than clothing and all of the world's knowledge, information, communications channels and entertainment at my fingertips, I have no possessions.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Monday, 1 August 2016 20:55 (nine years ago)

that's all I took on vacation and while I was surviving, I really missed my shit

mh, Monday, 1 August 2016 20:57 (nine years ago)

scratch that, I just had the iPad and phone in one bag and clothes in another. even then, I kept accumulating magazines and books and more shit. I am an expert shit-acquirer

mh, Monday, 1 August 2016 20:59 (nine years ago)

all of the world's knowledge, information, communications channels and entertainment

vast amounts of this are not on the internet but sure

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 August 2016 20:59 (nine years ago)

no, it's all there. you just haven't found it yet.

mh, Monday, 1 August 2016 21:03 (nine years ago)

so how about that Peter Thiel, living off the blood of youth? what a guy

mh, Monday, 1 August 2016 21:03 (nine years ago)

“I don’t hold onto all the things society tells me to hold onto.”

deal_with_it.gif

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Monday, 1 August 2016 21:05 (nine years ago)

"i want to live on a barge in the ocean, with other libertarians."
"huh ok."
"forever. i need blood."

goole, Monday, 1 August 2016 21:05 (nine years ago)

wait was is this blood thing about

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 August 2016 21:16 (nine years ago)


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