U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Nino Edition

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Don't forget the Texting Father!

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Monday, 27 June 2016 16:10 (ten years ago)

See, this is when I miss Nino most: when he's dissenting.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 June 2016 16:12 (ten years ago)

he's decomposing now, which is much better imo

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Monday, 27 June 2016 16:13 (ten years ago)

so does the TX abortion ruling make it more difficult for states to pass similar laws? or does it just mean that every time a state passes something like this, there will be another multi-year process for it to wind through the courts until maybe it gets struck down again?

asking as someone fairly ignorant about how SC precedents get applied to the state lawmaking process

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 27 June 2016 16:26 (ten years ago)

It establishes precedent; it's the most far-reaching abortion rights case since Casey.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 June 2016 16:29 (ten years ago)

it means similar laws are likely to be struck down, and new laws will have to recognize it as established precedent

Οὖτις, Monday, 27 June 2016 16:33 (ten years ago)

the anti-choice machine was prepared to start installing TRAP laws in states throughout the south/midwest if this passed through the court
curious to see how texas rebounds this on both sides of the issue

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Monday, 27 June 2016 16:33 (ten years ago)

yeah the big thing is that there's a clear, applicable, and stringent precedent which limits any and all state laws restricting abortion rights. i don't know the national scene, but i can say for sure that indiana just this year passed a law placing some pretty severe restrictions on abortion access, restrictions which seem unlikely to pass the test the court established in this opinion.

hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Monday, 27 June 2016 16:37 (ten years ago)

yeah, I guess my question is whether this will stop states from passing similar laws or will we see more laws like this and a protracted effort to fight it out in the courts despite the ruling.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 27 June 2016 17:09 (ten years ago)

it will stop states from passing similar laws for the same reason states don't pass laws for other things that supreme court has ruled illegal - it will be instantly challenged in court and struck down at the circuit level

Οὖτις, Monday, 27 June 2016 17:11 (ten years ago)

ok, that makes sense

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 27 June 2016 17:12 (ten years ago)

LA/MS/AL, which have restrictions similar to TX, will have to be dragged kicking and screaming.

pleas to Nietzsche (WilliamC), Monday, 27 June 2016 17:14 (ten years ago)

Yeah IIRC it's basically like, if some other state passes a similar law, much lower-level courts can rule it out right away like "look, this is already settled and we're busy, your law is unconstitutional, open-and-shut case" and higher courts can deny appeal pretty straightforwardly. The ruling reaffirms Casey, which was a shaky compromise ruling, by a court swinging rapidly rightwards; a different court would have used today's case as an opportunity to gut it entirely. Instead we've been told that Casey's "substantial obstacle/undue burden" language has teeth, and applies to weasely and arbitrary real-world laws. Medical-expert testimony trumps vague assertions by legislators as to the purpose and effects of abortion legislation. Huge win for common sense (invoked throughout to cut through the fog of lame counterarguments).

Harvey Manfrenjensenden (Doctor Casino), Monday, 27 June 2016 17:23 (ten years ago)

xpost

Harvey Manfrenjensenden (Doctor Casino), Monday, 27 June 2016 17:23 (ten years ago)

in other news the alabama supreme court is still claiming that obergefell is invalid, to no apparent effect.

hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Monday, 27 June 2016 17:25 (ten years ago)

Going over what cases they'll hear next and what they won't:

http://www.scotusblog.com/2016/06/court-to-hear-major-new-controversies-next-term/

Per the comments re the impact of yesterday's abortion decision, I think we're already starting to see it play out on two levels via cases denied review. First, to quote the ACLU's sharing it out, "The Supreme Court declines to hear a case in which a pharmacy objected on religious grounds to rules that it serve women seeking emergency contraception. This lets a favorable lower court ruling stand."

https://www.aclu.org/news/supreme-court-declines-hear-case-about-religious-pharmacy-turning-women-away

Second, and most immediately applicable in terms of yesterday's decision, Wisconsin and Mississippi were both told to pound sand in terms of laws restricting abortion providers. Lower courts had thrown them out, both states had appealed to the Supreme Court and...denied.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/u-s-supreme-court-rejects-wisconsin-s-appeal-of-abortion/article_ab0f94fd-aef7-5d89-9d7c-a61333857460.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:49 (ten years ago)

Also noteworthy that the Friedrichs/CTA case was denied review (in that they'd already split 4-4) and everything goes back to lower courts. The presumption is that the usual suspects are crossing their fingers hoping for a favorable Scalia replacement before trying again. As that's the specific case or sort of case I have a lot of vested interest in, I'll be keeping a close eye on it.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:51 (ten years ago)

Good piece on Tony: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/what-is-on-justice-anthony-kennedys-mind/489218/

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2016 14:04 (ten years ago)

yeah that's great

k3vin k., Thursday, 30 June 2016 15:34 (ten years ago)

good piece

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/clarence-thomas-has-his-own-constitution

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 June 2016 22:12 (ten years ago)

last sentence is the kicker

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 June 2016 22:13 (ten years ago)

ha -- yeah, I've read that Nino line.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2016 22:41 (ten years ago)

hey alfred so: when the voting acts right was put in place, or the part of it that mandated extra supervision of the states that had been especially egregious & so which needed monitoring -- was this just something the SC thought of? like they saw that this was a problem & so thought of a solution - a lil council that would monitor these specific areas -- & so created? + if so is this something they had done before/have done since? when i think of opinions like the recent abortion ruling, w/ginsburg setting out this v specific guidanc to lower courts, is there ever the likelihood that this kind of thing wd go beyond just opinion & into like an actual corrective model? i feel like it's necessary + intelligent + that i have only ever heard of it this one time.

ps ty for being my personal jurisprudential yahoo answers here

schlump, Friday, 8 July 2016 05:22 (nine years ago)

the Court didn't order the extra supervision: it was in the original bill iirc.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 July 2016 10:41 (nine years ago)

Yes

...the Voting Rights Act. Signed on Aug. 6, 1965, it was meant to correct “a clear and simple wrong,” as Lyndon Johnson said. “Millions of Americans are denied the right to vote because of their color. This law will ensure them the right to vote.” It eliminated literacy tests and other Jim Crow tactics, and — in a key provision called Section 5 — required North Carolina and six other states with histories of black disenfranchisement to submit any future change in statewide voting law, no matter how small, for approval by federal authorities in Washington. No longer would the states be able to invent clever new ways to suppress the vote. Johnson called the legislation “one of the most monumental laws in the entire history of American freedom,” and not without justification. By 1968, just three years after the Voting Rights Act became law, black registration had increased substantially across the South, to 62 percent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/29/magazine/voting-rights-act-dream-undone.html

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 July 2016 16:44 (nine years ago)

one month passes...

RIP scalia http://amylhowe.com/2016/08/31/north-carolina-comes-one-vote-short-stay-election-law-case/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 September 2016 00:24 (nine years ago)

miss you Nino

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2016 00:25 (nine years ago)

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Qzg-Ub3L--/mfxzbhxkwyzn7vyijjag.jpg

plenty offish (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 September 2016 00:57 (nine years ago)

Still shaking my head at those 4 conservative justices that would have allowed the NC voting changes.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 1 September 2016 15:18 (nine years ago)

^ Onion-level

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 1 September 2016 18:08 (nine years ago)

definitely onion-level

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Friday, 2 September 2016 05:00 (nine years ago)

Thomas is not having it.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2016 10:27 (nine years ago)

Thomas is not having it.

he's just jealous

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 September 2016 15:27 (nine years ago)

easy to imagine Clarence keeping a 5x7 framed photo of that making out couple on his desk.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2016 15:36 (nine years ago)

asking his law clerks if they are hot or not

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 September 2016 15:41 (nine years ago)

It's based on an anecdote in one of Toobin's books: Thomas kept a photo of the lesbian clerk and her partner.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2016 15:42 (nine years ago)

ew

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 September 2016 15:48 (nine years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-band-idUSKCN11Z1UN

lol crazy

, Thursday, 29 September 2016 18:40 (nine years ago)

http://abovethelaw.com/2016/09/could-a-legal-love-triangle-scuttle-scotus-hopes-for-this-leading-jurist/

juicy goodwin liu drama!

k3vin k., Thursday, 13 October 2016 16:40 (nine years ago)

still want that guy to be president someday

k3vin k., Thursday, 13 October 2016 16:40 (nine years ago)

michele obama going in rn

https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/786607670170161152
https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/786607809613950980

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 13 October 2016 16:45 (nine years ago)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/colin-kaepernick-rbg_us_57ff56ade4b0e8c198a62512

RBG needs to stop doing interviews

curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:49 (nine years ago)

That doesn't at all shock me.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:50 (nine years ago)

really couldn't care less about the RBG thing

k3vin k., Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:27 (nine years ago)

a lot of it is people wanting an old lady for a meme

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:29 (nine years ago)

You think that's bad, you should ask JPS what he thinks about flag burning.

pplains, Friday, 14 October 2016 00:42 (nine years ago)

I mentioned that on a friend's FB post on Tuesday.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2016 00:45 (nine years ago)


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