If that was what was meant, then it seems to have failed pretty significantly, since pretty much every commentary I've read seems confused by it. But mostly time and space has broken completely down in Westeros, and everyone just teleports wherever they have to go.
― Frederik B, Monday, 27 June 2016 11:47 (seven years ago) link
So if the Martel, Tyrell, half of Greyjoy are now under the banner of the Targaryen, and that the Riverlands are pretty much lordless, it seems to me that only Cersei is going to oppose the arrival of Dany? Also, Jamie having a little discussion about honor right after Cersei did make things a little predictable.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, June 27, 2016 12:43 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark
feels like a set up to Targaryens arriving, beating the shit out of the lannisters, then the white walkers come down n everybody unites against them
― 龜, Monday, 27 June 2016 11:58 (seven years ago) link
daeny marrying jon snow 2 further the targaryen incest, but can jon snow father babies after being brought back from the dad??
― 龜, Monday, 27 June 2016 11:59 (seven years ago) link
^^ typo of the year
I think the Varys shenanigoats illustrate definitively where Westeros "really" is. It's the island from LOST.
― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Monday, 27 June 2016 12:31 (seven years ago) link
btw Cersei was not in the line of succession at all. Tommen had no close heirs that were known about.
― remove butt (abanana), Monday, June 27, 2016 1:35 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Cersei was the queen previously
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, June 27, 2016 2:03 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ultimately succession doesnt matter she just named herself the queen and whos gonna say anything theyre all dead lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 13:06 (seven years ago) link
Xxxpost to Fred
Yeah but most of the post show commentary is by idiots
Varys is with Dany during an invasion probably required more than a week's planning, including getting Tyrell and Martel ships to the launch point--maybe they should have had "4 months later" at the bottom of the screen for dum dums
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 27 June 2016 13:06 (seven years ago) link
yeah actual succession was not a factor, the whole thing has been blown up...literally [/caruso]
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 27 June 2016 13:07 (seven years ago) link
enjoyed this episode v much, we had a whole season of "new" material and it felt like this was the first time that anything new or at least not 99% as expected happened, which was delightful
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 27 June 2016 13:08 (seven years ago) link
ya it was cool long live cersei
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 13:09 (seven years ago) link
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), 27. juni 2016 15:06 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
So, do you think every story in the next episode will take place 4 months later? Or do you think they'll be at sea for many episodes next season?
― Frederik B, Monday, 27 June 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link
According to Maggy's prophecies it's also possible that Daeny marries Jaime, "taking all (Cersei) holds dear." Jaime may even end up being the "little brother" killing Cersei.
― Wes Brodicus, Monday, 27 June 2016 13:39 (seven years ago) link
Does Daenerys stand at attention on the bridge all the way across the ocean voyage. Or were they sailing into something that the camera cut away from before we saw.Would think there would be much better things to be doing with her time.
― Stevolende, Monday, 27 June 2016 13:45 (seven years ago) link
chronology is less of a nightmare (probably still a nightmare) if you're not assuming that we're being shown the parallel storylines simultaneously. maybe arya was with the faceless guys for like a week before taking a year to get back to the north, who knows
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Monday, 27 June 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link
Also the shot of tommen surveying the burning sept, leaving the frame, then coming back and jumping was a total Wes Anderson flourish
― 龜, Monday, 27 June 2016 04:11
There was a suicide in Boardwalk Empire that was very similar.
I liked the episode but I thought the first section at King's Landing was really terrific, one of the highlights of the series. I'm a little sad about Margaery but it was an impressive way to send her off. I was about to say that I forgive Cersei for everything but I'm fairly sure that woman is Mountain's sex toy now. I recall something about him being given women by Qyburn and Cersei. Unless he's eating them, which I'd be totally fine with.
Maybe killing Pycelle that way was just for fun and variety.
Anyone know where Bran actually is now?
Wonder where Melisandre is going and if Arya will get to her family quickly or go on her killing spree first.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 27 June 2016 13:55 (seven years ago) link
yeh i figure that letting the mountain have his way with the septa is to assure us that cersei is a bad lady, just in case we didn't gather that from all that stuff she did in the past and her indiscriminate murder of countless residents of king's landing
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Monday, 27 June 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link
Thrilling ep. P sure the Mountain was having his abominable undead way w the Septa, btw.
yeah that's what i thought.
Does Daenerys stand at attention on the bridge all the way across the ocean voyage. Or were they sailing into something that the camera cut away from before we saw.
this too! lol.
great to see ned stark back, looking forward to seeing how his story pans out from the tower and finding out who his new kid is.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 June 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link
Bran is just outside the wall
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 27 June 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link
the music for the opening bombing was amazing. and the sense of fear and dread, in general. the kids killing pycell was cool too, as a sign of how horrible this new regime could be.
sansa's "explanation" to jon snow was really stupid. "sorry i didn't tell you". "you should tell me in future, i'm sure you had your reasons for doing this strange and stupid thing but what's done is done they are not important now"
would have liked some white walkers, though maybe they've exhausted all the interesting reveals about them now.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 June 2016 14:02 (seven years ago) link
btw can a mod fix the typo in the thread title
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 June 2016 14:26 (seven years ago) link
― Stevolende, Monday, June 27, 2016 9:45 AM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
They were just posing all cheesy for the sake of that epic final scene. I wouldn't read into it.
― Evan, Monday, 27 June 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link
Similarly the unsullied ship had them all standing at attention. Not because it made sense but because we understand they're robotic individuals. Looked pretty stupid to me but these were minor details.
― Evan, Monday, 27 June 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, June 27, 2016 10:02 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah seriously. Guess they had no interesting reason beyond Sansa being flawed. "Lots of soldiers died perhaps needlessly because we didn't have critical hypothetical leverage to play up for the sake of pre-battle negotiations and stalling, but oh well just make sure you let me know these things next time k? Don't worry I'm not mad. Love you, sis. Seriously take Mom and Dad's room- it has the TV."
― Evan, Monday, 27 June 2016 14:41 (seven years ago) link
uh u guys see sansa and littlefinger exchanging meaningful glances in that final scene they obvs gonna conspire against jon, not telling him is obvs part of an emerging pattern of sansa going for self, lol this thread being full of complaining abt travel times and like standing on boats but u cant understand the plot
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link
that looked more like Sansa not being satisfied with Littlefingers reaction to Jon being made king.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 27 June 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link
xpost yeah but why wouldn't he ask? i guess he is stupid.
feel like the "the king in the north" chant could have gone on a bit longer. like maybe they could have all kept chanting it and then gone outside and walked around for a while, with more people joining in, until they eventually tired themselves out.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 June 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link
sansa may have made a betrothal deal with littlefinger to place jon on the iron throne, leave the north for her, too? don't see her as the betraying her half-brother kind, not after all the horrible shit that's gone down past few years in their fam
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 27 June 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link
littlefinger shdve done a dance
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link
would be good if he shouted it and everyone looked at him like "nah" and stopped.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 June 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link
if he just ran his hand through his hair and sort of mumbled king of the north
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 14:58 (seven years ago) link
sansa does not trust jon, why? cause hes a lil bitch who doesnt listen and runs out into battlefields all by himself
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link
didn't have the cgi budget to show us the littlefinger futterwacken, sad imo
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Monday, 27 June 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/gl8troZ.png
― Evan, Monday, 27 June 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link
^ For Fred
― Evan, Monday, 27 June 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link
rip tommen
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j316/liz_marcs/Reaction%20Gifs/X8Ufi_zps62cda975.gif
― nomar, Monday, 27 June 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link
Thanks Evan. Feel much better now :)
― Frederik B, Monday, 27 June 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link
so they revealed Jon Snow's parentage but did it in such a way that i wonder if the significance of his father was lost on the majority of the audience. i said this several seasons ago probably but i really think they dropped the ball on the backstory elements. i still support flashbacks. Rhaegar is barely a presence at all in the show.
― ryan, Monday, 27 June 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link
it's already established that ned is his father. the show jumped forward 9 months after he arrived at the tower.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 27 June 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link
can't believe they used a third actor for ned stark as a dad. or a fourth or whatever it was.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 June 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link
the bloody bed was played by sean bean
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link
bean as the baby looked pretty old but still incredibly like a real baby
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 June 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link
just a lil wink n a nod to fans of the first season
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link
tho nothing like jon snow, still it was a nice touch. fathers become sons.
xpost yeah those who noticed v pleased
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 June 2016 15:37 (seven years ago) link
i think they kept the paternity vague on purpose. presumably there will be a pt 2 reveal that will be more deliberately expositionary wrt rhaegar. otoh, if this was supposed to be the full reveal then yeah they fucked up.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 27 June 2016 15:38 (seven years ago) link
they are prob getting away with a lot due to fans reading up on the internet.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 June 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link
she whispered something we couldn't hear, seems p intentionally vague, tho i don't know what the purpose of that vagueness would be unless we have a big sean bean reveal coming next season
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Monday, 27 June 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link
not sure if it's been mentioned but the music in this ep was really good
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 27 June 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, June 27, 2016 11:37 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its all obvs foreshadowing to when jon is riding his dragon and yells at danny "hey theres winterfell" then leans over to get a better look and falls off crashing through the castle all the way down to the crypt where he lands in neds tomb and one of the dire wolves is there but it takes off its face to reveal arya who says "thats his dad"
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link
*the wolf is voiced by sean bean
no doubt someone else will try and claim they knew that would happen
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 June 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link