HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

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Did not know King Diamond did an episode of Scooby Doo.

And he would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

The faceless thing is the nadir of the show this far. It's so boring and the kind of magic it is seems like a bad fit for the show over all. It stands out like a sore thumb.

Disagree. It has went on a bit long but I think it's one of the more interesting parts.

lol at the nadir of the show being anything but the treatment of dorne overall (and a fair amount of it is boring in the books too)

It's kinda funny that they just killed off half the characters in the premiere, and then didn't do anything about it since. They've even stopped talking about it. We're never going to hear anything more about Dorne again, I don't think, and that's probably for the best. Complete misfire.

They're obviously going to attack King's Landing.

Generally Daenerys storylines are the least interesting ones to me.

Got no shame saying Tyrion stuff has always been the best, of course he is banished to wherever to do whatever. Even reading the two books that I did GRRM clearly had more fun writing him than writing nearly anything else.

Ever since that Maester column brought it up I've been sort of fascinated by a potential paradox the show/books have introduced, whether I'm watching/reading or not, namely that GRRM has consistently subverted (or at least resisted) many fantasy/adventure tropes even as the story he has created keeps funneling him toward those same 9unavoidable?) fantasy/adventure tropes. I'm curious to see how long either mediums can go while resisting fully embracing the very tropes and cliches that have driven stories for millennia. Like, are there fundamental, almost formall rules (which is to say, cliches) that almost all eventually *must* be followed, the equivalent of the 180 degree rule in film? Will it inevitably devolve into a clear tale of good vs. evil, or will it stay muddy/confused/unfulfilled? And in the case of the latter, how would that sit with readers/viewers, and particular viewers, conditioned to expect something cleaner and more obvious? It's a tricky one.

i would say the dorne stuff might pay off in an interesting way at king's landing with some kind of attack, yeah. my suspicion is that with cersei focused on revenge and tommen focused on converting so he can get laid (a failed endeavor it might seem though it sounds like he's whining to the high sparrow about it) and jaime lannister fighting up north, they're missing out on a dorne army massing and heading in their direction. i wouldn't be surprised if the final episode involves that somehow, along with daenerys finally sailing forth and the white walkers breaking through the wall while sansa and jon play soccer with ramsay's head. one caveat on that last point would be that i'm going to be mildly surprised if theon isn't involved in ramsay's comeuppance. but who knows.

as bad as the dorne stuff was it didn't bore me quite as much and for quite as long as the faceless stuff has, it feels like they could have treated arya like they did bran and had her skip a season with little ill effect. but in its defence my laptop screen is pretty shitty and i can never tell what's going on in those super dark faceless hq scenes

Maisie / Arya too popular to sit out a whole season.

Ever since Bran had that vision of the Mad King I've been wondering if they're setting up someone finishing what we he started--destroying Kings Landing with the hidden oil. Maybe the Sparrows, sensing defeat or Tommen in a religious fervor or Cersei in an act of revenge.

that wildfire is totes going off sooner rather than later

I thought they used it up at the Blackwater

GRRM has consistently subverted (or at least resisted) many fantasy/adventure tropes even as the story he has created keeps funneling him toward those same (unavoidable?) fantasy/adventure tropes. I'm curious to see how long either mediums can go while resisting fully embracing the very tropes and cliches that have driven stories for millennia.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, June 8, 2016 6:17 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait, wait. what if he's been trying to write to those tropes all along and he's just really bad at it

oh shit i accidentally killed my protagonist fuck

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The faceless stuff is just really boring, they've done a really bad job of creating any sense of magic or mystery to it, mostly because it was largely just three characters standing around a dull set and talking / hitting one another with sticks. Again and again and again.

If the end point is Arya becoming some awesome masked assassin then there are so many more watchable and interesting ways they could have done it. As it stands it's a complete waste of one of the best characters in the show.

Episode 9's title is a massive spoiler.

Episode 10 is going to clock in at 69 minutes. Both directed by Sapochnik who did last season's Hardhome episode.

The problem with Arya's arc since splitting from The Hound is she gets zero 'fun' interaction with other key characters and it's not clear who she'll be running into next. They crushed the life out of the Jaqen character too - both should join the playgroup ("fuck a many faced god, a man shall tread the boards!").

"you must become no one" is p much what they tell you at acting school.

"a man must be unemployed"

Jaqen should start a brothel instead. He's basically a pimp trying to break Arya in.

Episode 9's title is a massive spoiler

Not really given that the entire season has been building up to it. Literally everyone who's been paying attention to the show (and how previous seasons have been structured) knows what they're going to do in Episode 9.

If anyone but Brienne kills Ramsay I riot.

why? they've barely even met.

Sansa would be better.

exactly

i guess when i think of joffrey's death it's more that i want him to have a horrible and shocking death, perhaps interrupting hubris, rather than some solemn moral act of revenge.

Don't really see Sansa ever killing anyone directly. I think he needs a v slow agonising bloody death and Brienne is best primed for that (he's barely met anyone and a confrontation between them is surely planned) - or I suppose he could be gangshanked like Jon was.

Don't really see Sansa ever killing anyone directly.

Oh I can definitely imagine her taking pleasure over killing Ramsay in her current state.

Jon and Ramsay haven't met have they?

It should be whatshisname, reek, who kills Bolton. Geography might make that difficult at the moment.

feel like Sansa's gonna die soon

would be a classic got move if ramsey kills jon snow

Ramsey will be killed by a mule

killed by his dogs

Ramsay will flay himself.

I'm looking at that title for episode 9 and all I can think of is Daniel Day-Lewis yelling "Bastard in a basket! Bastard in a basket!" near the end of There Will Be Blood.

I think it might feel odd because it seems wrongly timed? Names for battles tend to come much later than the battle, so knowing the name of a battle beforehand seems odd.

Could be worse: could be called 'The First Battle of th Bastards'. But it does imply some resolution between the two.

Chances of Ramsay being torn to pieces by wolves are probably pretty high actually.

I'm trying to avoid spoilers please

Well Littlefinger's a total bastard, maybe he'll show up.

Every time someone says "winter is coming" I'm like fuck off with your spoilers.

Episode 10 is going to clock in at 69 minutes

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I bet the producers were high fiving

as well they should've been