Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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yeah you can see some stuff but i know for a fact they're withholding 90% of it from you

de l'asshole (flopson), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 18:09 (ten years ago)

they killed fb search because it gave an instant view to all the data you have "visible" to the public/friends/friends-of-friends

it's one thing to not mind if a random friend-of-friend knows where you work, but when some creep (*cough*) can think "hmm this girl named Sarah said she works at that local giant place" and you search "women named Sarah who work at giant place and live in this city" and she pops up it's fuckin' weird

Or, say, "women between ages of 18 and 35 with no relationship status or single relationship status who live in.." and get every person who has their gender, age, and vague location set to public

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 18:42 (ten years ago)

that makes sense. it would work fine if everyone had sensible privacy settings, but fb has reason to push people away from sensible privacy settings.

iatee, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 18:44 (ten years ago)

obviously that shit is way useful for serving targeted ads, but randos or even advertisers shouldn't get more than "12 users matched your criteria"

I'd argue their privacy settings aren't that bad as long as there's not a way to troll that shit! Even if I were to program something, I wouldn't get a list of all ppl in my area given broad criteria because that's not public

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 18:47 (ten years ago)

public to find manually versus public to broadly search are two pretty diff things

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 18:48 (ten years ago)

Miss that search.

Jeff, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 18:52 (ten years ago)

my man

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 20:38 (ten years ago)

http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/06/peter-thiel.html

he's a christian too??!? how does one person become such an intellectual trainwreck

j., Wednesday, 15 June 2016 00:51 (ten years ago)

Social maladaption + money

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 00:53 (ten years ago)

right obviously but i mean, i always thought the point of being a nerd and/or having money was that it freed you from kowtowing to all the myths and cant

plus what kind of christian wants to extend life indefinitely, IT'S ALREADY EXTENDED EVERLASTINGLY

j., Wednesday, 15 June 2016 01:01 (ten years ago)

maybe a la the protestant ethic the idea is to extend life indefinitely in order to obtain maximal wealth and thus maximal salvation!

ryan, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 02:27 (ten years ago)

yeesh http://techcrunch.com/2016/06/14/zenefits-is-laying-off-another-106-people-and-offering-others-a-buyout/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 03:17 (ten years ago)

https://medium.com/thinkpiece-dot-club/techs-scapegoat-complex-38a4bfb37f22#.mcz4fwrf1

ryan, you will be so into this

j., Wednesday, 15 June 2016 06:36 (ten years ago)

!

are we to presume that Thiel took classes from Girard.

Michel Serres is at Stanford too. if he wasn't so loopy i could imagine silicon valley types getting into him.

ryan, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 15:16 (ten years ago)

that was what i gathered but i dunno

j., Wednesday, 15 June 2016 18:00 (ten years ago)

two weeks pass...

well this happened

http://www.sfgate.com/business/technology/article/Self-driving-car-driver-died-after-crash-in-8334982.php

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 June 2016 21:48 (ten years ago)

feel like self-driving car is not something i want to be beta-testing

The Nickelbackean Ethics (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 30 June 2016 21:51 (ten years ago)

So far, way better than human-driven cars...

schwantz, Thursday, 30 June 2016 22:09 (ten years ago)

I'm quite capable of driving under a truck without digital intervention

🐸a hairy howling toad torments a man whose wife is deathly ill (James Morrison), Friday, 1 July 2016 00:21 (nine years ago)

theres one for the old silicon valley resume

6 god none the richer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2016 02:18 (nine years ago)

The deaths per miles driven stay that Tesla is citing is a little misleading - that number is going to include drunk driving accidents, people not wearing seat belts etc.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 1 July 2016 02:54 (nine years ago)

granted a drunk person is obviously a lot safer in a self driving car.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 1 July 2016 02:55 (nine years ago)

unless the car is drunk

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 1 July 2016 03:11 (nine years ago)

That's at least one Herbie film, right?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 July 2016 07:09 (nine years ago)

Seen so many techno-utopians on reddit and elsewhere screaming that it's the driver's fault for not taking over the autopilot when they saw the truck turning, not the software's fault. a) if you are not already driving the car, your reaction time is gonna be a lot slower, and b) if the autopilot works correctly for the first two months you have a car, of course you're gonna assume it works correctly all the time. people compare it to cruise control, but cruise control is waaaay more predictable. I don't even understand why people think an autopilot you have to monitor vigilantly is even a good idea

Vinnie, Friday, 1 July 2016 10:02 (nine years ago)

I don't even understand why people think an autopilot you have to monitor vigilantly is even a good idea.

Bingo! We have a winner!

This is not exactly a situation like airliners, where the human pilots are highly trained, highly paid professionals, with the built-in redundancy of a co-pilot who can take over for the main pilot at any moment. Plus there aren't many other objects to hit at 30,000 feet. In that situation an autopilot is just a tool for use by professionals. Ordinary cars and their drivers do not meet any of these qualifications.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 1 July 2016 17:20 (nine years ago)

even w airline pilots in the autopilot era you get things like air france 447, where the autopilot fails and at least one of the pilots hasn't actually played microsoft flight simulator enough (and/or is sufficiently panicked+confused) to know you nose down in a stall

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Friday, 1 July 2016 19:20 (nine years ago)

monitoring an autopilot vigilantly sounds like it would take more mental effort than driving

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 1 July 2016 20:34 (nine years ago)

i agree that an autopilot you have to monitor in a quick response situation like driving seems lethal, but 1 death in, what, a year?, seems like it's less lethal than letting the human drive.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 July 2016 20:36 (nine years ago)

1 death in, what, a year?

tbf, human-piloted cars were driven a few more miles and hours last year than the self-driving ones

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 1 July 2016 21:34 (nine years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/01/tesla-driver-killed-autopilot-self-driving-car-harry-potter

Tesla driver killed while using autopilot was watching Harry Potter, witness says

🐸a hairy howling toad torments a man whose wife is deathly ill (James Morrison), Saturday, 2 July 2016 00:03 (nine years ago)

Inattentius collisio!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 2 July 2016 00:13 (nine years ago)

one third of automobile deaths result from drunk driving and more than half involve no seatbelt, so musk's comparison needs to be taken with a massive grain of salt. So far it is certainly not apparent that self driving cars are as safe as human-driven by non drunks where you are wearing a restraint.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Saturday, 2 July 2016 00:14 (nine years ago)

Ouch from NYT: “[Joshua Brown] had said, ‘For something to catch Elon Musk’s eye, I can die and go to heaven now,’” said a neighbor, Krista Kitchen, choking up. “He was absolutely thrilled – and then a couple weeks later he died.”

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 2 July 2016 12:47 (nine years ago)

If this was a subplot on Silicon Valley we would be laughing

Οὖτις, Saturday, 2 July 2016 14:28 (nine years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmXghC9WAAAfbrU.jpg

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 2 July 2016 18:36 (nine years ago)

Rex: I was still young enough that I wanted to have a, like, a party hangout kind of life, and Seattle…seemed interesting at the time, but man, I just kept meeting people that — I always say it’s a city that has product managers who want to be vice presidents.

Paul: Ooof.

Rex: Like it’s a lot of, just…

Rich: Wow.

Paul: [wounded noise]

Rex: A lot of Amazon people…

Rich: That’s a rough tagline for Seattle tourism right there.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:42 (nine years ago)

they're easy to spot and avoid tho

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:59 (nine years ago)

caek, what is that from

ejemplo (crüt), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 17:02 (nine years ago)

sorry https://trackchanges.postlight.com/podcast-20-rex-sorgatz-the-other-side-of-fate-2151da51f998#.ivs4e4udy

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 17:05 (nine years ago)

hey I know that Paul Ford guy, was at his wedding and everything

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 17:06 (nine years ago)

what?!

mh, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 18:05 (nine years ago)

I'm surprised at the connection, but mostly surprised you aren't commenting on a thread about his wedding saying that you didn't go but heard it was a bad ceremony

mh, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 18:06 (nine years ago)

he married the woman who officiated my own wedding. we aren't best buds or anything, but his wife is an old college friend of mine

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 18:40 (nine years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnCBn18VMAAfqhw.jpg

mookieproof, Sunday, 10 July 2016 21:26 (nine years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ZeqyR0o.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 10 July 2016 23:13 (nine years ago)

Benioff is one of the least terrible though

El Tomboto, Monday, 11 July 2016 00:30 (nine years ago)

Like, he actually uses some of his money & influence on actual progressive political causes in the real world, he's not trying to invent Utopia in a west coast bunker and export it to the rest of us dummies

El Tomboto, Monday, 11 July 2016 00:33 (nine years ago)

Yeah he's ok w me

Tweet was inappropriate but its undeniable social media has been crucial un bringing this issue wide attention

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 July 2016 01:03 (nine years ago)


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