the tenant is his best, ftw.
― the table is the table, Thursday, 16 April 2009 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link
or okay, not his best, but his most intersting
oh i would have voted for tess
― I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Repulsion really isn't very good imo, worth it for Deneuve but the conceit never really convinced me and the ending was quite weak.
― Young Chizzy (country matters), Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I am led to believe that Polanski subsequently got a lot better but for some reason Repulsion's finished second in this poll :-/
― Young Chizzy (country matters), Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Woah woah woah, why don't you think Repulsion is good? It's far and away my favourite.
― emil.y, Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link
I watched it with a friend (who's BIG into film) under the impression that it was a great lost classic. Deneuve's performance (and general air of glacial smouldering cool) was infinitely alluring but the remainder of the movie felt like a let-down, especially towards the end. It just didn't force home a promising conceit with any sort of elegance. We both agreed that it wasn't a particularly affecting experience, and that even one's focus upon and belief in Deneuve begins to waver as events unfold. It remains the only Polanski I've seen, but it wasn't a particularly enjoyable (or memorable) experience for me. I'm not dissuaded from seeing others.
― Young Chizzy (country matters), Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I fell asleep when I tried to watch Repulsion. All his other movies are among my favourites. Don't understand this.
― swedes put dill on fields of salmon (fields of salmon), Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Hm, I'm not sure what exactly 'force home a promising conceit with any sort of elegance' means. How can you 'force home' something with elegance? I'm not sure it does lack elegance at any rate - for me, the film-making is exquisite; every camera angle is perfectly poised, and the balance between quietness and interior violence very 'elegant', if that's the descriptor we're using.
I can understand that perhaps Deneuve's psychosis seems a little arbitrary, if that is the conceit that you mean, but then isn't everything arbitrary? I thought that the manner of expression of that psychosis was very convincing.
― emil.y, Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, the film seemed to use cheap shock tactics to "escalate" her psychosis, such as the rabbit carcass, the deadly strike with the poker, the final scene with the hands etc...none of them really seemed to fit in with the prior mood of the film, and their shock value was actually diminished by this IMO. A little hamfisted. My main qualm with the film was that it made me feel profoundly indifferent to the denouement. The first 2/3 had actually been quite tense, quite nicely observed, if not the most riveting hour of film I've seen. I'll need to see it again, mind, this was over a year ago.
― Young Chizzy (country matters), Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Repulsion was made in '65, dude. shit was shocking as fuck back then.
― the table is the table, Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
admittedly, i once wrote a 15-page term paper on disembodiment and psychosis in Repulsion, The Tenant and Rosemary's Baby, so my bias is more towards the shock of those films.
― the table is the table, Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean, i can't even WATCH The Tenant any longer. it scares the hell out of me.
Don't think that the rabbit carcass was a shock tactic - along with the sprouting potato it is a measure of time and yes, an indicator of the rise of psychosis, but a fairly quiet one. I think if it was on its own then *maybe* I could agree, but it goes with the general disintegration of everything over time.
Also, the shift in mood is necessary - you go through life attempting to maintain your mind until, under pressure, it snaps. What is going to happen next, everything stays the same?
― emil.y, Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Hmm. Well, at any rate, the hands were B-movie bad. :P
Like I say, I'll need to see it again, but I wasn't overtly moved by it. Needed to be subtler, more incremental, and more devastating. In the end it was just a series of mournful vignettes concerning a lady at increasing odds with a slightly unnatural physicalisation of sexuality. It's almost like sex in that movie is a tangible presence, a character, rather than a verb, a natural engagement of humans. There was no sign of internal struggle, only complete desolation and opposition. I guess that's the point of the movie, but it didn't make for a well-rounded hypothesis on human nature.
― Young Chizzy (country matters), Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I tend to look at the results of this poll as such:
Apartment Trilogy: 19 votesChinatown: 13
― Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyway, Deneuve was in a film just 2 years later that was 3x as shocking, 5x as good, 10x as devastatingly psychological, and in colour. So ner.
― Young Chizzy (country matters), Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link
(and a film moreover with a FAR more interesting take on sexuality, especially the contradictory and spry sexuality of its still-glacial star)
― Young Chizzy (country matters), Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Belle du Jour?
Much as I love that film, your choices and descriptions are a real give away that you've never been a female.
― emil.y, Thursday, 16 April 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't even think BDJ holds a candle to Bunuel's even-later masterpieces, but that's the comparison with Repulsion that I probably won't be able to shake, even though they ARE fairly different sorts of film.
― Young Chizzy (country matters), Thursday, 16 April 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, for "contradictory" and "spry" read "intoxicating" and "self-immolatory" or something, I dunno, it's all a big fantasy-reality mindfuck inflicted both on her and on the audience (Deneuve, a whore? That thug, her ideal of masculinity?) and its explorations of what fantasy can do (and what it privileges) are preferable imo to Polanki's exploration of what pure repulsion does.
― Young Chizzy (country matters), Thursday, 16 April 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Organizers of the Zurich Film Festival say director Roman Polanski has been taken into custody on a 31-year-old U.S. arrest warrant.The organizers say Polanski was detained by police Saturday. Zurich police couldn't immediately confirm the information.The festival said in a statement Sunday that Polanski traveled to Switzerland to receive an award for his lifetime of work as a director. They said he was arrested in relation to a 1978 U.S. request, without specifying.Polanski fled the United States in 1978, a year after pleading guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse with a 13-year-old girl.
The organizers say Polanski was detained by police Saturday. Zurich police couldn't immediately confirm the information.
The festival said in a statement Sunday that Polanski traveled to Switzerland to receive an award for his lifetime of work as a director. They said he was arrested in relation to a 1978 U.S. request, without specifying.
Polanski fled the United States in 1978, a year after pleading guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse with a 13-year-old girl.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 27 September 2009 10:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Hadn't heard about him for a couple of years and now twice in two days: first, Susan Atkins dies, the next day, he's in the news again - ???
― StanM, Sunday, 27 September 2009 12:00 (fourteen years ago) link
lol pwned
― a light salad of Adorno, Heidegger, Derrida and Esteban Buttez (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 27 September 2009 12:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I hear that Osama bin Laden is going to win the Lifetime Achievement Award at the Zurich Film Festival next year.
― a light salad of Adorno, Heidegger, Derrida and Esteban Buttez (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 27 September 2009 12:10 (fourteen years ago) link
SUCKA
― Alex in SF, Sunday, 27 September 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Doubt he was the sucka, Alex
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Sunday, 27 September 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joan-z-shore/polanskis-arrest-shame-on_b_301134.html
o_O
― velko, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, I kind of agree with that article (apart from the call for banning Swiss stuff, that is just silly). But I mean hey, it's been THREE DECADES.
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2XTuc6i1Uo
― omar little, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link
the age of consent was 14?? the fuck?
― truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno, blaming the victim and whitewashing the fact that she was 13 ("almost 14")is some bullshit.
― velko, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Of course, the "but the parents trusted her to be with him" is bogus. But it still seems utterly ridiculous to me for America to still claim his head on a platter.
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link
There are surely more important issues in the world, and more villainous rogues at large that we should be attending to.
^^^^ always the kicker in a poorly argued defense
― velko, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
otm
― truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
dude served his time. don't know why they even care. it should all get tossed out due to the horribly corrupt judge during the original trial imo.
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
When did he serve his time?
― Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
look, at this point, i'm not sure dude should even serve any jail time or whatever. but don't try to defend him because he's "charming" or some bullshit.
― velko, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
he made some deal with the judge. the judge told him to serve a term at the psych ward, and if he pleaded guilty, they'd basically count that as his time served. he found out the judge was going to fuck him over so he fled.
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, right. And I DID watch that documentary too.
― Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link
dude made chinatown guys come on
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not crazy about his peccadilloes, but on the legal facts this is BS.
― A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
http://board.mdc2.org/albums/screens/Screenshot-The%20Associated%20Press:%20Swiss%20arrest%20Polanski%20on%20US%20request%20in%20sex%20case%20-%20Chromium.png
― am0n, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
wtf
― A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
― am0n, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
lol AP
― am0n, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
:-)))
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Fuck this guy. I am trading him off of my team in Madden as soon as I get home.
― Cousin Larry Soetoro (jeff), Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
He is OFF the team.
SHAME ON THE SWISS
― am0n, Sunday, 27 September 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link