Or perhaps the ghosts are real, as is supported by the unlocking of the storeroom to free Jack, and they just take the form of whatever has been in Jack's experience, his understanding of the world, and his desires.
― calstars, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 01:20 (eight years ago) link
Those desires being alcohol, sex, and violence
― calstars, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 01:21 (eight years ago) link
...embodied by Lloyd, the woman in room 237, and Grady
― calstars, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 01:24 (eight years ago) link
What the place has male, white racist ghosts? This doesn't support the "built on an indian burial ground" reference.
the force haunting the hotel isn't the force that resides in indian burial grounds. it's the force that builds things on top of them.
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 04:34 (eight years ago) link
all the best people.
me on this subject years upthread:
jack's a blue-collar white guy with cultured aspirations who's feeling humiliated economically (SHOVELING OUT DRIVEWAYS, WORK IN A CAR WASH -- ANY OF THAT APPEAL TO YOU?), and furthermore resents that what he at least hopes was an accident with his son's arm a few years ago has made it necessary for him to stop drinking and be really contrite and feel further unmanned, and is seduced on one level by an Evil Supernatural Power, in the form of a bunch of well-dressed whites having a perpetual power-drenched cocktail party in a luxury hotel built on a conquered graveyard (nice touch: "i believe they actually had to fend off a few indian attacks while they were building it!"); and on another level just by the ability, up there in the snow, to show his family who's boss. he gets drunk on this nasty fantasy of privilege that's built on bones, and when the hotel needs to spur him on it suggests to him that he's not Man enough to do his job and that his son feels safer around an n-word than around his father.
also wanna repost this description, from an essay eric h posted, of nicholson's repetition of the word, in
a tone that suggests he is not used to considering negritude an offense, is on the verge of disbelieving laughter, and yet is also fascinated by the new ripple of self-congratulating possibility here.
later, throwing himself into the possibility, he murders scatman crothers with an axe and unless i'm mistaken it's at this moment and no earlier that the ambient demonic whispery chanting kicks in on the soundtrack. then: the chilling climax, as jack casts his vote for trump.
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 04:52 (eight years ago) link
and yes: are the ghosts real? are they hallucinations? are they metaphors?whichever is most plausible to you the fundamental explanation is always the same: sometimes, when something happens, it leaves a trace of itself behind. i think a lot of things happened right here, in this very hotel/household/country, over the years. and not all of em was good.
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 05:21 (eight years ago) link
so on sundays, i work as a projectionist for both a matinee and an evening show, between which the 90-year-old movie theater is cleared and locked and the rest of the staff leaves and i hang out, alone, for a couple hours in the empty theater before the night staff arrives, with the projector and the sound system and the ah blu-ray player still online because i've been told not to shut them down until we close for the night, and, uh, don't tell anyone, but today, i
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, 23 May 2016 04:03 (eight years ago) link
rip
― circa1916, Monday, 23 May 2016 04:07 (eight years ago) link
dad? do you like this hotel?
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, 23 May 2016 04:09 (eight years ago) link
difficult listening hour on this subject years upthread otm
― da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer), Monday, 23 May 2016 06:38 (eight years ago) link
ran a local movie this morning for some middle schoolers on a field trip, about an arrogant haole-boy champion surfer who wipes out during a competition in waikiki and warps to 1911, where he's rescued by and befriends duke kahanamoku and in becoming one of duke's crew (under the name "ghost") learns the true meaning of surfing. at the end, back in the present against his will, he visits the waikiki restaurant duke's, where his pov gives the movie its final shot: a slow dolly in on a framed b&w photograph of duke and buddies standing with monogrammed surfboards, GHOST gazing out alongside them. haha
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 26 May 2016 04:40 (eight years ago) link
this is insanehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AupAFblRwgYdrag your mouse to move
― ulysses, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link
Is this something I should watch using one of those virtual reality headgear things?
― calstars, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link
i didn't! i also didn't watch for more than five minutes but skip around!
― ulysses, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link
whoa
― circa1916, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link
Just found this on the street!
http://i.imgur.com/UtURBFW.jpg
― calstars, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 23:36 (seven years ago) link
Didn't like Room 237 quite as much the second time. There was one guy--his theory was vaguer than the others, and he had a habit of pausing and then laughing at his own commentary (the guy with a son who was out of work)--who started to get on my nerves. The most compelling theory to me is the Native American one, which I notice is proposed in this thread's very first post.
― clemenza, Sunday, 18 December 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link
native american thing is compelling cuz it's just a theme in the movie like any other theme in any other movie. i don't think it's the center but it's there and it harmonizes w other themes. the other theories are occult+totalizing and (at least in the case of the moon landing) seem to involve the movie Actually being about something that has nothing to do w what it's pretending to be about, which is a less impressive concept to me than, yknow, a successful piece of art.
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 18 December 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link
Just found this on the street!🗻
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― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 18 December 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link
i passed Garrett Brown, inventor of the Steadicam, on his way into the Linc Ctr cinema last night. (ie he ran behind Danny in the maze)
no one tell clemenza
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 December 2016 03:45 (seven years ago) link
(ie he ran behind Danny in the maze)
wearing, never forget, danny-shoes
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 19 December 2016 03:46 (seven years ago) link
you can still see The Shining in 35mm on NYE in NYC.
http://www.filmlinc.org/series/going-steadi-40-years-of-steadicam/#films
It is, of course, almost the worst film in that series.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 December 2016 03:52 (seven years ago) link
Xanadu must be much better than I've been led to believe.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Monday, 19 December 2016 04:17 (seven years ago) link
Didn't like Room 237 quite as much the second time. There was one guy--his theory was vaguer than the others, and he had a habit of pausing and then laughing at his own commentary (the guy with a son who was out of work)--who started to get on my nerves.― clemenza, Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:45 PM (eight hours ago)
― clemenza, Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:45 PM (eight hours ago)
Nah, that guy is awesome. His theories on the syncs, the wipes, the dissolves, and the forwards and backwards theory was incredibly compelling. Plus the Playgirl mag.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 19 December 2016 05:24 (seven years ago) link
The one who annoyed me was the architect (?) who claimed to have been mind-blown by the layout of the Overlook the first time she saw the film. Not because she didn't have something interesting to say, but rather because I sincerely doubt that even someone who is fascinated by architecture would notice a minor structural oddity on a first viewing.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Monday, 19 December 2016 05:27 (seven years ago) link
The masterstroke in this is when the babe in the bathtub becomes sick grandma. Nothing is more frightening to the male psyche than the realization that all flesh is mortal.
― calstars, Monday, 19 December 2016 23:16 (seven years ago) link
http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=434928
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link
? I thought that might have been the professor in the film, but it's not...The course he teaches is Bio137!
― clemenza, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link
it's the kid in The Shining
― heaven parker (anagram), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link
stephen king: listen this hotel is fucked upstanley kubrick: indeed, if these walls could talk, we walk around looking the other way from the suffering, death and horror that takes root in our lives, the foundations our society is built uponstephen king: NO THE HOTEL IS EVIL— i'm camille! (@_girltype) December 6, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link
hee
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 December 2017 01:07 (six years ago) link
still think Jack & co. would have fared better at a la Quinta or Best Western
― fuiud, mac (rip van wanko), Friday, 8 December 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link
“All the best people”
― calstars, Friday, 8 December 2017 02:55 (six years ago) link
I remember one of the HS friends i saw it with opening night called Barry Nelson (Ullman) "Reagan."
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 December 2017 03:01 (six years ago) link
2 20s and 2 10sI was afraidThey’d be there tilnext April
― calstars, Sunday, 25 March 2018 02:24 (six years ago) link
and all the irreparable harm it's caused me.
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 25 March 2018 02:30 (six years ago) link
They’d be thereTil next April
― calstars, Sunday, 25 March 2018 02:44 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVlXbS0SNqk
― MaresNest, Thursday, 5 July 2018 10:58 (five years ago) link
Still want this poster.
https://welcometotwinpeaks.com/wp-content/uploads/purgatory-jared-lyon.png
― Roomba with an attitude (Sanpaku), Thursday, 5 July 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link
exposing the eeriness inherent in hotels
― Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Thursday, 5 July 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link
New Pogo track is based on The Shining
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8pptpmkHXg
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 23 September 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link
That footage from the Japanese paranormal investigations TV show crew filming Elstree and interviewing Vivian and Stanley (on the phone) is a delight from start to finish, including the soundless car journey through West London and up to Borehamwood.
The YouTube comments are almost entirely highly positive, although I guess probably consist mainly of middle aged men remarking on how captivating watching 20 year old Vivian talk is. Well, fair enough I'spose.
― the sun-dried raisins of muesli (Noel Emits), Monday, 24 September 2018 11:40 (five years ago) link
Link?
― calstars, Monday, 24 September 2018 11:46 (five years ago) link
MareSnest links it above.
― the sun-dried raisins of muesli (Noel Emits), Monday, 24 September 2018 11:49 (five years ago) link
we were watching this tnite for halloween and it's amazing how fresh + relevant it feels today maybe more than ever
― Mordy, Thursday, 1 November 2018 04:55 (five years ago) link
especially wild when you recall how reviled it was on release
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 November 2018 04:57 (five years ago) link
when something happens it can leave a trace of itself behind
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 November 2018 06:04 (five years ago) link
i need to watch this again soon
― macropuente (map), Thursday, 1 November 2018 06:16 (five years ago) link
Say someone burns toast...
― calstars, Thursday, 1 November 2018 08:35 (five years ago) link