immigrant & ethnic food cultures, white ppl & appropriation, foodies

can we poll this http://aulddubliner.com/beer-list/

wtf happened to this thread

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i had this particular o'haras a couple of times recently, it did the trick

http://www.carlowbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Barrel-Aged-LF-2015-for-BALF-Page.png

still enjoy me guinness though. it's still one of my go-to beers.

i must admit that the belhvaen scottish stout is quite nice too.

http://tryon.worldclassbeer.com/wp-content/beer_spy/images/prodimages/Belhaven/lBlackCan.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGknMCJfuig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bGDu_u0Kmk

getting us back on track http://hyphenmagazine.com/blog/2016/05/mistranslation-mister-jiu%E2%80%99s-and-revitalization-chinatown

why did the white guy get to be the head chef though http://bushwickdaily.com/2016/04/taiwanese-soul-food-restaurant-win-son-is-opening-this-spring-in-east-williamsburg/

I guess my 100% pork kebab slipped by this thread in favor of irish beer talk? I thought it was funny but maybe more for europeans where kebab is "a thing".

I took it as a gross Britain First-style provocation, unworthy of attention.

Souvlaki's cool, though.

Yeah I guess it was provocation, o/w call it something besides kebab

souvlaki is the greatest member of the kebab family imo, fresh tomatoes crucial

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/22/chefs-who-are-loosening-the-old-school-thai

Guardian piece on white British chefs bringing regional Thai cuisine to the UK.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/25/dining/indian-accent-restaurant-review.html?smid=tw-nytfood&smtyp=cur

nice

sounds delicious but
I don’t know how to categorize the “sweet pickle ribs.” They are not, in fact, pickled, but, in their tart mango sauce with strips of dried mango on top, these tender baby backs are so good I’d eat them under any name.

does the reviewer really not know what "pickle" refers to in India or is this a way to explain it to the reader?

haha wtf

I don't know how to categorise the "eggplant parmesan". There are, in fact, no eggs, but

First meal in beijing was at a korean place where you bbq your own food at ths table am i in disgrace or have i done ok nb it was delicious

read that as you bbq your own foot

Chinese food - what do you like?

beijing

i'm p good at korean food and i think that's how you do it

you done did good cowboy

Phew

lol kinder

Kinder surprise eggplant

darragh did you eat in wudaoku?

Not that i was aware of and obv i cant google that. Gimme a sec

sorry i mean wudaokou

The area or is that a specific spot? Reliant on hosts to give us the benefit of their expertise, also we're in shuangjing so idk how far we'll be straying tbh

xp well obv but i dint wanna correct u in front of everyone

what is best about toronto chinatown ? I may make it there in 1.5 weeks

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-somali-banana-20160524-snap-htmlstory.html

offbrandravensymone ‎@SafyHallanFarah

@mattdpearce THIS IS TRIGGERING. EAT THE BANANA WHITE BOY

I laughed for a good 5 minutes

“The first time I ate good Thai food I fell in love,” Chapman says. “It was food in glorious technicolour – spicy, umami, sour, sugar – all at the same time. To me that was astonishing. I wanted to eat it again, but there was nowhere in Britain I could, so I had to learn how to cook it.”

NOWHERE IN BRITAIN!

https://www.buzzfeed.com/nicolenguyen/food-and-family-pho-ever

one of our college friends came over and made us pho last night and it was super awesome; we have about 2.5-3 gallons of it frozen in containers in our freezer

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/06/zarif-khans-tamales-and-the-muslims-of-sheridan-wyoming

There's the California Roll, the Hawaiian Roll and Norway introduced salmon to Japan and sushi in the 70s. So Yutaka - www.yutaka.co/en - the UK's largest producer and distributor of authentic Japanese food has decided it is time the Brits developed a patriotic sushi of their own.

To celebrate International Sushi Day, which takes place on June 18th this year they've created six very British sushi recipes including Fish & Chip Nirigi. The others are:

• British Breakfast Maki Roll
• Deep-fried Haggis Onigiri
• Roast Beef and Yorkshire Pudding Sushi Roll
• Cream Tea Sushi Scone
• Apple Crumble & Custard Roll

could have also gone in the Innocent smoothies thread

Surprised they didn't have one involving eel

not sure if this has been linked before but I thought it was interesting - http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/03/26/394339284/how-snobbery-helped-take-the-spice-out-of-european-cooking

https://life.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/what-will-brexit-mean-for-british-food/

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/chop-suey-nation/article30539419/

http://i.imgur.com/Lzhnil4.jpg

I really enjoyed that article!

Huang Feng Zhu sounds like she is the best

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/07/the-future-is-expensive-chinese-food/491015/

http://kmph-kfre.com/news/entertainment/lena-dunham-says-college-dining-hall-sushi-is-cultural-appropriation

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/the-food-fight-at-oberlin-college/421401/

generally in favor of fighting against aramark et al

Framing it as cultural appropriation is probably not the most useful thing in the world in the current climate but the students are basically right in having a grievance. One of the first things students from other countries want to know when they study abroad is 'what am I going to eat?'. This is probably more critical in the US than the UK where campuses tend to be smaller, less self contained and more integrated into cities.

If universities are marketing themselves to international students on the basis of providing an international environment but make no effort to provide food those students are willing or able to eat, it's a problem. I've spoken to university recruiters visiting Arab countries who have no idea if their canteens provide halal meals. One of the examples cited in the Atlantic article was a "Hindu" meal of beef curry. If you're telling people you can get foreign foods on campus but those foods are poor to the point of inedibility and geared towards the U.S. majority student population, that is going to look like appropriation when the bigger issue is ignorance of / no attempt to accommodate the needs of students from abroad. If all the students were white Americans, it is unlikely it would even be raised. It's one element of a much wider problem with trying to monetise foreign students while not actually doing much to make them feel welcome. Idk how true that is at Oberlin but it's pervasive throughout a lot of US univerisities.

The UK isn't perfect by any means but it's striking that you can go into the SU shop at Sheffield and buy obscure Korean coffee drinks and Chinese silken tofu, etc,.

i dont know if its that smart to term it CA.

the number of pubs and canteens in england that now serve asian cuisine (indian, thai, etc etc), and prob do it poorly is very high. it is a form of appropriation, whether its one worth getting angry about, im not sure. but mainly, its just doing something badly. do people know its not the real thing? probably. do they care? probably not. in my exp, its not like all people in all the proper asian restaurants possess a great respect for what theyre eating, never mind in pubs and cafes.

there is a case that once bigger companies/bigger eateries start serving other cuisines traditionally made by people from those countries that it takes away business from those people, who might really need it (though even then, its not like im seeing a decline in south or east asian restaurants). its more a case of 'can you stop serving bad food please?' (esp if youre trying to make foreign students feel at home).

also, without these bootleg versions of sushi or tandoori dishes, these international students would have to eat, what? hamburgers? not sure thats much better, even if it is more 'authentic'.

Yes, that's essentially it. Make some effort with the food you serve, talk to foreign students to figure out what they want, ensure you have culturally appropriate options available (veg, halal, etc), stop serving rubbish and expecting people who have travelled half way round the world and away from their families to pay you $40k a year to be grateful, etc.

serving beef for a diwali dish is just a major, religious faux pas though. like serving pork for eid.

https://life.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/what-will-brexit-mean-for-british-food/

this is interesting. the garlic bit in particular (i mention this as the piece uses garlic as a sign of cultural/culinary tolerance/open-ness). mainly as, on a purely anecdotal note, english people still seem to hate onions and garlic lol, or least they do when its not extremely, extremely lightly used.