Taking Sides: Liverpool vs Everton

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Ranieri's settled in London. Although with a £6m pay-off, he could settle where he likes.

I think Spurs is a real option.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Leicster => didn't have much of a budget, and he did show he could organise a team to play above the players individual capabilitites, so why would he want to do that again?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Ranieri to Valencia? But yeah, I think he'll go to the Lane

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Roma have already snapped up the Parma coach so they have no need for Ranieri.

― Jonnie, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

So, both Euro Cup winners off to merrie england in the space of a week. England 2004 = Italy 1991 = some time before a decent english manager gets a look in - they might actually have to go abroad to make their name.

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

That would be a good thing, wouldn't it?

― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd be happy to see Ranieri at Spurs. where is Lippi now?

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't see why Ranieri would necessarily have had enough of the UK... Like, sure, Ambramovich screwed him over, but has there /ever/ been a club manager as popular across all clubs? Like, ever?

I'd like to see him at Tottenham. I don't know why really, I feel completely neautral abt Spurs, maybe I just want him near, bein' all cuddly and tinkery and that.

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Ranieri = good at taking 2nd/3rd tier clubs and hauling them into respectable positions. Also knows how to organise a defence. Frankly I'd rather him than Queiroz right now.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1239720,00.html

― the junefox, Thursday, 17 June 2004 08:08 (twenty-two years ago)

If, at some future date, those who survived me had applied on my behalf, I think EFC would have done some investigation and concluded that I only qualified for the 'mobile armchair' option: dispersal on the top-deck of a cross-river bus or burial in Rake Lane Cemetery with an FM Walkman tuned to Radio City and a Peter Eastoe sticker.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 17 June 2004 08:19 (twenty-two years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/3847081.stm

I am cheered by this.

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 June 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been wondering which thread this belongs on - this is perfect. I am very heartened by this news.

― chris (chris), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The prospect of Stevie G moving to Chelsea has been depressing the hell out of me for the last two weeks. I am so glad he has come to his senses. Hopefully he will be playing alongside Pablo Aimar before long.(And maybe Liverpool will end up buying Duff anyway.)

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

dream signings from Valencia? Possibly Aimar (although we don't really need a midfield fannydangler, we have one in Kewell, who needs to sort himself out) but I'd like to see Baraja and Ayala.

― chris (chris), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I miss the days when you liked a bit of fannydangle, cabs.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I think fannydanglers should be rationed JtN - one per team.

― chris (chris), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Good to see Gerrard not going to Chelsea.

On the fannydangle subject, the Spurs website announced results for the fans dream team. The midfield is Waddle, Hoddle, Gascoigne and Ginola. Now that, my friends, is fannydangle.

― Jonnie, Monday, 28 June 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

!!!

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 June 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

no place for Tony Galvin then?

― chris (chris), Monday, 28 June 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

That Spurs midfield would be great if there were anyone to get the ball for them.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 28 June 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Strange days!

Murphy to Charlton: 'I wanted to join a team that was pehaps not so cosmopolitan'.

Owen may be off for £10m.

I fear for the Pool.

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

More than you fear for Everton?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd be really scared if I was an Everton fan. The one here at work told me yesterday "I just don't want us to be totally humiliated"

― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

But ... Liverpool have a new manager who is supposed to take them back to their journey up to The Next Level. And he seems to be taking them downwards. Or maybe not - maybe his plan is still sound?

They did win last night in Europe - I must not forget that.

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

how is he taking them downwards?

Selling Owen is not necessarily bad business, wait until he buys a possible replacement first, plus money now is better than no money next year.

― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't beleive Benitez is taking Liverpool downward - especially if Alonso signs and the Cisse-Baros partnership works. Murphy has been a minor player over the past two seasons and his loss is hardly going to be the end of the club. And the Owen money would probably be more useful than Owen himself in this day and age - especially if they can bring in Morientes or someone in his place.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Liverpool fans have nothing to fear - they're replacing quality with quality as some Rednose once said. If they close the gap on the top three without actually catching them it'll still be a successful season ('team in transition', blah blah blah). In 05-06 they might be expected to win something.

EFC weakest since summer of '94.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Murphy departure = END OF THE CLUB, OFFICIAL

'in this day and age'

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

ha ha that's cobblers

― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Murphy was, incidentally, one of the few good things about ITV's Euro2004 coverage. Remarkably astute and articulate - a future Premiership on Monday pundit spot awaits him, no doubt. I also remember some "Encourage the kiddies to read" initiative a while back where footballers talked about their favourite books. Most of them nominated things like 'The Winds in the Willows' etc, but Murphy's choice was 'The Anatomy of Motive'.

We will probably be drubbed by Manyoo this season as a result of his departure, though.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I have always liked Murphy; seemed a good solid professional, dedicated and hardworking. A credit to Dario Gradi.

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't know Jerry the Nipper supported Liverpool. Did I?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Boyle, is that a self-parody mail?

I don't know The Anatomy of Motive.

Premiership on Monday is over - for now.

Clive?

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

No, I really rated Murphy. I recall that Houllier told him he needed to up his game if he wanted a place - he didn't tell his agent to plant stories issuing a come and get me plea in a bid to rid Mighty Murph of his ANFIELD HELL. He just knuckled down, picked up his game, and was a credit to his profession. Top lad.

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

it's just a shame that he's a complete confidence player, when he's flying he's great, but he gets a few bad games under his belt and it takes him a long while to come back up to form.

I *really * hope he does well at Charlton, lovely lad he is.

― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(So... were *those* mails self-parodies?)

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Comed? Of which mails do you speak?

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I think he'll do very well indeed at Charlton - Jeffers is a more interesting one.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just added Jeffers to my fantasy side, so I am hoping he works out well - he feels like a gamble.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Murphy's always been alright with me, especially for those couple of goals against United over the years.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

He's a solid lad, no fancy dan stuff.

― the dreamfox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Certainly not a "big time charlie".

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

everton are only 3 places behind man u at the mo... 8)

http://www.4thegame.com/

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 16 August 2004 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

everton are awful.

liverpool will be there or thereabouts.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 16 August 2004 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

(sorry mike. still, at least palace are doing well... what are you going to do next weekend when they play each other?)

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 16 August 2004 08:04 (twenty-one years ago)

There may be a new manager and a new strike force but Liverpool looked pretty much exactly the same as they did last season. Baros was poor and Sinima-P looks like a nasty piece of work - I think they sent the wrong young striker out on loan as Le Tallec looked pretty useful on occasions last year. I like the look of Djibril Cisse though, and Josemi looks a good signing.

Spurs had seven new players (bargain basement Chelsea!) and put in a pretty solid defensive display but had no midfield creativity and rarely looked dangerous going forward, Defoe aside. Who'd have thought it?

Steve Finnan on the wing looks like a patch-up job akin to Tottenham's embryo at left back. Not a huge amount of depth in that Liverpool squad right now, is there?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 16 August 2004 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a bit weak yes, I like the look of Josemi though - he was pretty solid, and still like the look of Carragher at CB, not sure about him getting turned so easily by Defoe though.

I like Finnan on the right wing for some reason, I know I shouldn't. I think Liverpool are a winger and a striker (at least) short of being a bet for Champs league status though. A striker being the upmost importance (I can't believe they don't have an Owen replacement contingency - my bet is Beattie)

― Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 16 August 2004 08:40 (twenty-one years ago)

My bet is Mista.

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 16 August 2004 08:52 (twenty-one years ago)

All it takes is for a bigger club to wave a shiny sixpence in front of Defoe (now apparently the future of English football) and he'll join them.

I'm quite worried about these Man Utd rumours, it must be said.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 16 August 2004 08:57 (twenty-one years ago)

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